I want to bury several septic tanks to hold caches of preps.
I have read a few threads here about using septic tanks in this way, and have come up with a tentative plan.
I would like to hear where I'm going wrong in my thinking.
I've heard some arguments "against" that I disagree with. I've heard some arguments "against" that have made me modify my plan.
My Plan A is to bug in.
But I want to be prepared to bug out, or perhaps just to be prepared for the local authorities dropping by to collect my preps because "we're all in this together and hoarders are evil." (John in "One Second After" did that, and he was a good guy!) It is for this reason that I plan to build a small secret room in my house for some of the basics, but that's a topic for another thread.
I am going with the largest plastic septic tanks I can get. I'm not convinced that the covers on concrete tanks seal well enough, and I don't want them filling with water. I would prefer concrete tanks were it not for the sealing problem, so maybe there is a solution for that.
I am going to buy some nearby vacant land (3-4 acres) and bury the tanks very close to the tree line, so they will not be driven over by anyone. The locations must not be in sight of anyone else's house, because I don't want people dropping by to see what I'm doing. If they find out, the plan is ruined.
More OPSEC: I would need an excavator. My brother has one, and he's on board.
I've heard that empty plastic tanks will "float" eventually. So I am going to put 6 inches of concrete in the bottom to weight it down. The larger tanks also come with empty "pillars" where concrete can be poured before being buried. They're there for supporting weight from above, but I'm interested in their weight to hold the tank down.
The holes are big enough that I can climb down into them to check on thing or retrieve items as necessary.
They would be buried so that only an inch or two of soil is over the cover. The cover on the tanks I'm considering bolt on to seal tightly.
I've heard that temperature changes can cause a process to occur similar to canning meat in a mason jar... air is expelled and then negative pressure seals the lid even tighter. I would be ok with that. Everything that goes in there will be sealed already anyway - guns in vacuum sealed bags, food and ammo in air tight buckets. Oxygen and moisture absorbers will be used in each individual item, so slight moisture inside would not be too bad, but I don't want it flooding in there.
I've read here that temperature changes can cause moisture to appear in the tank. If it is truly sealed then I'm not sure that would happen. Whatever moisture is in there is in there. None should come or go. If this is not true, please explain it to me like I'm 6. That goes for the rest of this post. I'm not the brightest bulb in the drawer.
Once people start providing some criticism I will probably remember more details to defend this idea, but that's all I can remember for now. Decimate my idea.
I have read a few threads here about using septic tanks in this way, and have come up with a tentative plan.
I would like to hear where I'm going wrong in my thinking.
I've heard some arguments "against" that I disagree with. I've heard some arguments "against" that have made me modify my plan.
My Plan A is to bug in.
But I want to be prepared to bug out, or perhaps just to be prepared for the local authorities dropping by to collect my preps because "we're all in this together and hoarders are evil." (John in "One Second After" did that, and he was a good guy!) It is for this reason that I plan to build a small secret room in my house for some of the basics, but that's a topic for another thread.
I am going with the largest plastic septic tanks I can get. I'm not convinced that the covers on concrete tanks seal well enough, and I don't want them filling with water. I would prefer concrete tanks were it not for the sealing problem, so maybe there is a solution for that.
I am going to buy some nearby vacant land (3-4 acres) and bury the tanks very close to the tree line, so they will not be driven over by anyone. The locations must not be in sight of anyone else's house, because I don't want people dropping by to see what I'm doing. If they find out, the plan is ruined.
More OPSEC: I would need an excavator. My brother has one, and he's on board.
I've heard that empty plastic tanks will "float" eventually. So I am going to put 6 inches of concrete in the bottom to weight it down. The larger tanks also come with empty "pillars" where concrete can be poured before being buried. They're there for supporting weight from above, but I'm interested in their weight to hold the tank down.
The holes are big enough that I can climb down into them to check on thing or retrieve items as necessary.
They would be buried so that only an inch or two of soil is over the cover. The cover on the tanks I'm considering bolt on to seal tightly.
I've heard that temperature changes can cause a process to occur similar to canning meat in a mason jar... air is expelled and then negative pressure seals the lid even tighter. I would be ok with that. Everything that goes in there will be sealed already anyway - guns in vacuum sealed bags, food and ammo in air tight buckets. Oxygen and moisture absorbers will be used in each individual item, so slight moisture inside would not be too bad, but I don't want it flooding in there.
I've read here that temperature changes can cause moisture to appear in the tank. If it is truly sealed then I'm not sure that would happen. Whatever moisture is in there is in there. None should come or go. If this is not true, please explain it to me like I'm 6. That goes for the rest of this post. I'm not the brightest bulb in the drawer.
Once people start providing some criticism I will probably remember more details to defend this idea, but that's all I can remember for now. Decimate my idea.