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In a less than ideal situation, do creative people have an edge? Those who create and come up with innovation are usually outside the box more often than not during normal times. When the world steps out side the box would this inclination to creative or innovate help or hinder them?

I can see it both ways and think that overall the creative type would probably fair better than most. I have a hunch they see the world differently than the average person and that could be a plus...or not...lol
 

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I guess when I think of "creative" I think "artist" who - no - will not have an edge. Now if you think of creative as the person
who figures out how to make the best beer and whiskey with the limited resources available - yeah - that dude will do allright.
 

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Beer and Whiskey....lol
Thats exactly the person I was thinking about...the one that can see potential where others don't and can make it happen...
 

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I have no doubt that creative people would come out ahead. Seen it first hand on some of the ingenious ways off road riders came up with to get home, from pinching off a broken brake line with a vice grips and hooking several batteries together to weld. Many people who have seen that armored vehicle that DHS purchased think how could we ever defend against something like that, a group of creative people will look at that and say we need to make one of those.

Creativity is the major part of my SHTF plan, I truly believe that if I can hold out for a month I will be able to come up with what I need.
 

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I think if you look at history, . . . it is the creative persons who have advanced, . . . non creative did the status quo thing, . . . and it didn't work out so well for them.

For example: Russian ingenuity ends with sattelites, . . . German ingenuity sank with the Bismark, . . . English ingenuity sits atop some dungeon with the queen mother, . . . Japanese, Taiwanese, Chinese ingenuity is simply "monkey see, . . . monkey do", . . . French ingenuity ends once the wine is bottled.

American ingenuity: telephone, telegraph, television, (tell a woman), computers and computing, the most advanced ships on the seas, the most advanced aircraft in the sky, and several trips to the moon and back, safely. There are many, many more also, . . . but these are the ones everyone knows about.

Yes, . . . creative people built the one nation almost everyone else wants to get into or be at least a trading partner with, . . . the USA.

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Depends on how the person is creative. If they see stuff that takes a long time, multiple millions/billions to develop, I say no, they aren't useful for SHTF scenarios, but if their ideas are easy, quick, simple, then yes
 

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I guess when I think of "creative" I think "artist" who - no - will not have an edge. Now if you think of creative as the person
who figures out how to make the best beer and whiskey with the limited resources available - yeah - that dude will do allright.
Well said. The artist type will fail the blacksmith will survive . Yes different types of creative
 

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Well said. The artist type will fail the blacksmith will survive . Yes different types of creative
I agree at least at first but once there is some type of organization I think there will be a place for others with skills in painting, singing and storytelling. History shows that in bad times there was a place for traveling artist like the Troubadours and Trobairitz in the middle ages, but yes if things get to bad like the black plague that ended the traveling Troubadours the that type of skill wouldn't be of much use.
 

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American ingenuity: telephone, telegraph, television, (tell a woman), computers and computing, the most advanced ships on the seas, the most advanced aircraft in the sky, and several trips to the moon and back, safely. There are many, many more also, . . . but these are the ones everyone knows about.

Yes, . . . creative people built the one nation almost everyone else wants to get into or be at least a trading partner with, . . . the USA.

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Unfortunately, they have bred a lot of creativity out of people in the US. There are some but not nearly as many as their used to be. That's one of the reasons we are losing the innovative products to other countries. Well, except for China, they just steal what they want.

I can remember a time when something said made in Japan, you knew it was cheap stuff, including cars. Now the Japanese control many markets and own a decent portion of our debt.
 

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Crap I thought I would pass this one by but....

Creative people have a imaginative thought process.

Innovative people introduce new things or methods.

IMO the innovative will rule, it isn't the person that dreams how something can be done but the one that puts it into action.
 

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Crap I thought I would pass this one by but....

Creative people have a imaginative thought process.

Innovative people introduce new things or methods.

IMO the innovative will rule, it isn't the person that dreams how something can be done but the one that puts it into action.
Come on you are playing with words Innovation is the implementation of the creative idea.
 

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Come on you are playing with words Innovation is the implementation of the creative idea.
I like you, thanks for thinking this through.

Would you rather have someone who imagines all that is possible and does nothing about it or someone who takes what is available and produces something useful.
 

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creative people will always fare better in every aspect of life except being a slave. We suck as slaves.
 

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creative people will always fare better in every aspect of life except being a slave. We suck as slaves.
I think we are playing with words here, is creative and resourceful the same thing? If so I think we are in agreement. But a person that write songs and paints picture although creative will not do well SHTF
 

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I think we are playing with words here, is creative and resourceful the same thing? If so I think we are in agreement. But a person that write songs and paints picture although creative will not do well SHTF
I think the word you are looking for is 'artistic' and those types they might still have uses. Everyone loves a good tune in the off grid silence. Not too practical though.
 

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I think Leon is right with the word artistic. Creativity and Innovative go hand in hand, like having a rifle that is accurate and precise without both it isn't much good.
 

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In a less than ideal situation, do creative people have an edge? Those who create and come up with innovation are usually outside the box more often than not during normal times. When the world steps out side the box would this inclination to creative or innovate help or hinder them?

I can see it both ways and think that overall the creative type would probably fair better than most. I have a hunch they see the world differently than the average person and that could be a plus...or not...lol
With all the issues surrounding "political correctness" these days you really need to define "creative".
 

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Not artistic...It could be but not where I was going with it....rather along the lines of this example; there are tool makers and all tool makers are tool users, there are tool users but not all of them are tool makers...one creates the tool while the other simply uses it.

It takes imagination to create or invent something new or useful. So maybe I should have asked if imaginative people would fair better. It seemed pointless because imaginative people by their very nature create and innovate.
 

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Not artistic...It could be but not where I was going with it....rather along the lines of this example; there are tool makers and all tool makers are tool users, there are tool users but not all of them are tool makers...one creates the tool while the other simply uses it.

It takes imagination to create or invent something new or useful. So maybe I should have asked if imaginative people would fair better. It seemed pointless because imaginative people by their very nature create and innovate.
Yes, creative / innovative people would have a vastly superior advantage in both survival and in combat.
In a survival situation Macgyver could build an airplane out of a paperclip & shoelace then fly to civilization.
In a conflict it's relatively easy to predict the average person's next move but when someone thinks outside the box, it's nearly impossible to get a step ahead of them. The opposition is similar to a one legged man in a but kicking contest.
 
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