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bigdogbuc

Discussion Starter · Aug 12, 2013 (Edited)

I'm not going to lie. I love single shot rifles and shotguns. I am especially fond of the H&R Rifles. I even own an original Model 1900 H&R Single shot 12 gauge made in 1908; 2 1/2" chamber that I have to shoot black powder through with hand loaded shells, either trimmed plastic (already fired) or brass. This is complimented by a Spencer single shot 12 gauge from 1896 (not of "Spencer" fame, so don't get excited) that also requires the holy black and trimmed or brass hulls. I have an antique roll crimper, a good supply of 209 and pistol primers (for the brass) and all the hand tools to "roll my own" when it comes to shotgun shells. Sounds like I'm prepping...

Anyway, H&R offers several calibers, even the mighty 500 S&W, which if you've seen one torched off on Youtube, they are pretty bad ass. Though granted, they are one shot.

Why don't they offer it in the .460 S&W Magnum?

This .460 is an incredibly versatile gun, and ungodly powerful. I watched a deer taken with one on YT and it took out both shoulders at 40 yards with a through and through shot. The thing ran about 15 yards, literally on its face. Destroyed it.

If you own a .460, you can shoot the 45 Colt, the .454 Casull and obviously, the .460 Magnum. The 45 Colt is the parent round of the latter two and the cases are simply lengthened. Of all time, the 45 Colt is my favorite round. Not sure why, it just is. Maybe it's because if properly loaded, can develop more energy with less pressure than the .44 Magnum. And maybe it's a little bit of old west romance. Either way, that .454 Diameter bullet leaves a big hole.

I just don't understand why H&R hasn't made a rifle for this 460. I can only imagine the versatility of having three, increasingly powerful rounds to choose from, all bigger in diameter than the 45 ACP, with some crazy knock down power.

I know that I would be first in line to get one as well as be willing to drop the $1200 on a new .460 if it had an accompanying rifle to go with it!

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bigdogbuc

Discussion Starter · #5 · Aug 12, 2013 (Edited)

Montana Rancher said:
OMG a .460 for shooting any north American game is so freeking overkill that it is laughably funny. Ok, I will give you the charging grizzly or brown bear argument but any other application is a meat bruising overkill on a epic scale.

Nothing in North America requires more than a .30 caliber, these black powder hippo guns should be cherished but shunned for modern day big game hunting.

I have taken more elk than most people have ever seen with a .270 Winchester, also a lot of them with a 300 wby magnum which also takes down moose like a hot knife through butter. I just don't see the point of shooting a 450 grain bullet at an animal you can easily harvest with a 130-180 grain bullet.

I use a big bullet to compensate for other things...

Seriously though, hunting for me has never been more than a hike through the woods with my gun. If it wasn't for bad luck, I wouldn't have any luck at all. But for two legged critters, there is no such thing as too big.

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bigdogbuc

Discussion Starter · #6 · Aug 12, 2013

Ripon said:
I loved my old Ruger #1 in 22-250....sweet rifle

One of my top 5 favorite rounds! So small, so stinkin' fast.

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bigdogbuc

Discussion Starter · #11 · Aug 12, 2013

Chipper said:
Thompson Center offers a stainless 460 S&W for the Encore.

I have never been a fan of the Thompson Center's price tag. The barrel for the 460 alone exceeds the cost of an H&R. Never been a big fan of their aesthetics either. And I like my guns like I like my women, they at least have to look good.

But I can't argue that Thompson Center has one and H&R doesn't. Though I guess if you could find an H&R in 45 Colt, you could have the chamber extended to fit the 460. Guys turn the 45-70's into 45-90's and 110's all the time. However, the cost of the rifle and the gunsmithing to convert it kind of defeats the purpose.

I just wish H&R would make my life easy and just start cranking out .460's. Is that too much to ask????

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