[Sourdough]

Why do you think this is....??? All forums that are primarily prepping focused, have a strange obsession with firearms.

 

[Grinch]

Anyone with any common sense understands that like all other animals when resources become scarce violence becomes prevalent in the human population. With guns being as commonplace as they are anyone expecting to survive without one is certifiably insane. They're a tool, they're capable of allowing one individual to do many roles.
Your question would be like asking why you need a way to start a fire in the wild, why does everyone in the prepping community have a weird obsession with fire.

 

[AndyFrank]

Because people are not accustomed to life with them, knowing about them, carrying or the idea that you just shoot, no "Hey i dont want to shoot you pal" because thats 7 words longer than it takes to kill you.

I think that's mostly it.

 

[OrganikRoots]

Some folks obsess about firearms.
Some folks obsess about their poop buckets.
Such is life.

 

[Sourdough]

Some folks obsess about firearms.
Some folks obsess about their poop buckets.
Such is life.

Where in the thread that I asked "WHERE do you plan to dump your poop bucket post SHTF. I was simply pointing that people purchase them (likely have never used them in their home) yet have they considered where they will dump it post SHTF. The thread was about prepping to empty the bucket, not the actual five-gallon bucket.

And I only have one poop bucket, so that hardly qualifies as obsession. For much of my life I owned over a hundred firearms (not currently). I am not obsessed with firearms reference "Prepping". I was interested in firearms reference the business I was in. But not relative to prepping.

In the 40's & 50's & 60's firearms were a substantial part of prepping for harvesting food. Generally, a "Survival Firearm" was often a simple single-shot that was durable.

Now if there is a prepping thread asking about "Survival Firearms" it automatically defaults to protection from humans.

I stated clearly when I joined this forum that I fully believe much of current prepping theory is deeply flawed. And this is one example of that.

 

[Captjim_NM]

Talk about pop buckets, back in 1999 a friend purchased a one way sewer valve, ($2000) convinced that at 1/1/2000 the city sewer would back-up into his home. It takes all kinds.

 

[Sourdough]

So, is a firearm for safety and security of family and loved ones...???

Is safety and security high on the list of prepping priorities.??

 

[Demitri.14]

In my case I would ask, Why are Gun nuts obsessed with prepping ?

 

[Tango2X]

Because if you plan to prepare for whatever comes and you stock things to keep you and yours alive and safe, guns (and the skills to use them) are kinda important.

 

[rice paddy daddy]

I’ve been a gun owner for 64 years.
Since age 10. Yes, believe it or not, back then boys could have their very own guns and ammo. This was before the nanny state existed.
So, having been a prepper since 1999, I’ve been a gun owner for far longer.

 

[Chipper]

Having hunted my whole life and getting my first 22 at age 6 and 30-30 at 10. Back then we used guns for hunting to eat and pest control. Over 50 years later nothing has changed. It's not an obsession it's just our way of life.

 

[Back Pack Hack]

Some people like guns. Some like gold clubs. Some like stamps. Some like to change their pronons every 2 hours. Some like quotation marks.

 

[Spenser]

Why do you think this is....??? All forums that are primarily prepping focused, have a strange obsession with firearms.

Because it is their Constitutional right to bear arms. Because it makes them feel immortal, like a bad @$$. They are under the illusion that simply having a lot of guns makes them Rambo, and that with guns they can perform military like scenarios.

Fact is like a majority of people with guns if they had bullets flying over their head would crap themselves.

Protecting one's self requires training. An untrained guy with a gun vs. a trained bowman, cross bow, knive/axe thrower, sling shot or what have you, I prefer to hang with the guy that is trained, and practices daily.

I remember one guy in the military, we called him cueball as he shaved his head prior to enlisting, was acting like a real bad @$$ while handling a M16. I had injured my foot earlier that day and when we got back to the barracks he still had that gun holding courage (think liquid aka booze courage kind of thing) and he stomped on my bad foot.

It took 3 guys to get me off of him, but not before beating the [email protected]#$ out of him. From that day on he no longer acted like a bad @$$ when handling firearms.

 

[Sourdough]

I’ve been a gun owner for 64 years.
Since age 10. Yes, believe it or not, back then boys could have their very own guns and ammo.

Reverse for me, I bought my first rifle in 1956 with my paper route money, at nine years old. When a bit older, we took our guns to school, and hunted on our way home. Was being trained for survival in the early 50's by men back from WW-II. I started hoarding food at age six and stole the largest knife from my mother's kitchen.

 

[Certified J.B Welder]

So, is a firearm for safety and security of family and loved ones...???

Is safety and security high on the list of prepping priorities.??

In my case I would ask, Why are Gun nuts obsessed with prepping ?

Here's the simplest way to put it:
During shtf, or even slightly before, when things get bad and people get desperate enough they can and will resort to violence to take what they need to survive.
Some, if not most people could say that it's human instinct.
Those desperate people are likely to have guns or other weapons.
They see that you have something that they need.
They will kill you to take it.


Oh what about the riots? People getting dragged out of their vehicles and beaten/ or killed by these "peaceful protesters" in recent years??

Look, the main point is this, people are crazy, people (majority) have no self control or can loose it at any point.

It's an eat or be eaten world already....right now...

Just imagine when thousands are starving and are literally desperate....
It will become kill or be killed....

Now, we can do a complete flip on the tone of my message.

Guns are also valuable sources of food.
What's quicker? Easier? More humane?

Trap the rabbit and wring his neck like a chicken?
Or put a bullet in his head and get it over with?

I think I'm going to stop here. I haven't slept in about 33 hours due to work... I'm tired. Maybe I'll be able to come back and make a more coherent response when I wake up.

 

[Kauboy]

The majority of posts on this forum are not about firearms.
Perception is not reality.

That said, I'll make two points...
1. If you stockpile goods, and lack the tools and training to protect them, you're only gathering for someone else.
2. I like guns. It's not your business why.

 

[AndyFrank]

Because it is their Constitutional right to bear arms. Because it makes them feel immortal, like a bad @$$. They are under the illusion that simply having a lot of guns makes them Rambo, and that with guns they can perform military like scenarios.

Fact is like a majority of people with guns if they had bullets flying over their head would crap themselves.

Protecting one's self requires training. An untrained guy with a gun vs. a trained bowman, cross bow, knive/axe thrower, sling shot or what have you, I prefer to hang with the guy that is trained, and practices daily.

I remember one guy in the military, we called him cueball as he shaved his head prior to enlisting, was acting like a real bad @$$ while handling a M16. I had injured my foot earlier that day and when we got back to the barracks he still had that gun holding courage (think liquid aka booze courage kind of thing) and he stomped on my bad foot.

It took 3 guys to get me off of him, but not before beating the [email protected]#$ out of him. From that day on he no longer acted like a bad @$$ when handling firearms.

I think you think a lot and fantasize about how others think. You're big on how much of a trained bad azz you are and how weak and green "most other people are" - you prefer to hang with the guy that is trained.....but not all of them are being a bruce springsteen song.

"Fact is like a majority of people with guns if they had bullets flying over their head would crap themselves." - i think if it was real without a commanding officer......some people have been waiting to go iraq on people and they just repress it and talk like everybody is buddies.....because guns you feel you got a grip on, but people are scary

 

[Kauboy]

Friendly reminder:
Discuss the topic, not the person.

 

[Captjim_NM]

Many people that have bought guns in the past 20 years could not shoot their way out of a spit-wad match. Back in the 1970's I was compeating in matches and could beat the local cops. In no was was I prepared for a fire fight. I was and still am, a very good shot with a handgun, shotgun, rifle or bow. In no way does punching paper prepare you to to take a life. In a life or death situitation, you must draw a line in your mind, and if the aggressor crosses that line, you have only seconds to take action with reprecussions that will last the rest of your life. Four times I have had to draw a pistol on someone, all four times, just my having the pistols diffused the crisis.

 

[NotTooProudToHide]

I think its the cool/sexy side of prepping and the one that gets promoted in the media and on social media. Guns are just cool but its important to remember being armed is not the only part of prepping.

Edit Not gonna like I have a a love for guns that began when I was a kid playing war/hunter in the woods with a stick.