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I'm considering getting an AR. Yet I'm not entirely sold on the idea. It seems at first blush to be a good idea. Most AR's I've look at and have considered are in the 900 and up range, and by the time I buy the extras like a scope or iron sights I'm into it for a hefty chunk of change.

Help me out here! I want one but parting with a bunch of cash for a bit of steel and aluminum isn't easy...
Is it expensive because it is better than other rifles or more expensive simply because it's popular?
 

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I don't have one, and probably won't.I don't like how they look, feel or point and shoot or how the controls are set up. Can I handle one? Yes indeed, there's just better choices for me personally YMMV.
 

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With an AR, some of the things you are buying is compatibility and availability. ARs aren't just popular... they are VERY popular with civilians (and that doesn't take into account that it is the primary long rifle of the US Military). Thus... there is an abundance of ARs/M16s/M4s to cannibalize for parts, an abundance of aftermarket improvements, and an abundance of ammo. In reality... because there are so many... you could theoretically buy a single shot bolt action rifle and acquire your AR after SHTF... but then have limited choices and get what you get. And... there is some risk with that if the owner decides to argue or has friends. :)
 

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positive reasons;
not in any order.
lightweight
tons of spare parts available
now a very common round and mostly available everywhere.
plenty of mag's around up to 100 round capacity (betamax drum).
all kinds of accessories available.
easy to clean and strip down with no tools.

If wanted for shtf do not get a 6.8, 300bo or any other wildcat round.

i prefer a m14, however, i do own 6 of them 3 are sb,m4's. if i had to bo on foot it would be with an m4 and 210 rounds of m193.
 

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They are the most popular defensive/offensive rifle in America I think can be claimed with little argument. Sure there are other rifles very popular with American citizens, but there not also used in mass in our military, in issued forms of the M16 and M4, besides all the AR's, M16, and M4's that are American police hands and trunks as patrol carbines. Which is why there is such a huge aftermarket of rifles, parts and accessories making them one of the best choices for a defensive/offensive rifle for the prepper in my opinion. They can be made very ambidextrous with a few parts changes and personalized to the extreme with all the choices in replacement parts. There also pretty light even when loaded for many users from men, women and children and ergomonic in the same.


There certainly are other choices out there. Choose what you like best I say, but you're not going to get all the commonality the AR has as described. I accept when I'm forced to foot it when the time comes and shtf hard, when I walk off with my tuned M1A in hands and the rounds I'm carrying. No sweat. I still have an AR and have had and used various versions for years though I only use piston AR's now for good reason. Why? Because of what has been said. The M1A/M14 just so happens to be better for me in controls, ergos, hitting power and other preferences when it comes down to it, but it's not for everyone. Lots of people find it too heavy in weight from the rifle itself, the rounds and loaded magazines and the cartridge itself after you've laid a few mags down range. Not a problem. We're all not the same and shouldn't be.



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Add to what others have said
AR :
Effective ,light weigh, reliable, effective at hunting, same ammo used by military so if you must take there is a source, the ammo is large enough to do the job but small enough to store plenty and carry it. Interchange parts even between types and calibers.
Example you can have a good 5.56 lower slap a 7.62x54 upper on it and fire same with 7.62X39 and others so it is flexible. Cost you can get into very affordable good AR's without breaking the bank.
Go with the Gas piston version and clean is a non issue anymore. very small amount of oil is all the is needed and it stays put.
The M14 and M24's will be covering the move anyway.
I would hope you would have a mix of weapons but the AR is an important one
 
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I'm considering getting an AR. Yet I'm not entirely sold on the idea. It seems at first blush to be a good idea. Most AR's I've look at and have considered are in the 900 and up range, and by the time I buy the extras like a scope or iron sights I'm into it for a hefty chunk of change.

Help me out here! I want one but parting with a bunch of cash for a bit of steel and aluminum isn't easy...
Is it expensive because it is better than other rifles or more expensive simply because it's popular?
as opposed to what?
 

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The AR is popular because it has been America's service rifle for 40+ years and millions of service men and women have become inimately aquainted with them. The AR performs it's job well.
I was in during the transition from the M-14 to the M-16 and have used both.
Today I have a 1994 Springfield Armory Standard Model built with USGI parts. Except for the lack of a selector switch she's just like the ones I was once isued.
I have no desire to own an AR, I picked up a used Mini 14 instead to use as a farm rifle/cheap centerfire plinker. It's just a matter of personal preference for me, there's nothing inherently wrong with a good quaility AR.
A good quality AR will last you a long time.
Of course, so will a cheap AK, but that's a whole 'nother debate.:mrgreen:
 
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The AR is popular because it has been America's service rifle for 40+ years and millions of service men and women have become inimately aquainted with them. The AR performs it's job well.
I was in during the transition from the M-14 to the M-16 and have used both.
Today I have a 1994 Springfield Armory Standard Model built with USGI parts. Except for the lack of a selector switch she's just like the ones I was once isued.
I have no desire to own an AR, I picked up a used Mini 14 instead to use as a farm rifle/cheap centerfire plinker. It's just a matter of personal preference for me, there's nothing inherently wrong with a good quaility AR.
A good quality AR will last you a long time.
I have a very high quality AR ( Lewis Tool and Machine) , it will however be leaving soon as my opinion is rather similar to yours and it's funding that could be applied to better benefit e;sewhere in my plans.
 

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The AR is popular because it has been America's service rifle for 40+ years and millions of service men and women have become inimately aquainted with them. The AR performs it's job well.
I was in during the transition from the M-14 to the M-16 and have used both.
Today I have a 1994 Springfield Armory Standard Model built with USGI parts. Except for the lack of a selector switch she's just like the ones I was once isued.
I have no desire to own an AR, I picked up a used Mini 14 instead to use as a farm rifle/cheap centerfire plinker. It's just a matter of personal preference for me, there's nothing inherently wrong with a good quaility AR.
A good quality AR will last you a long time.
Of course, so will a cheap AK, but that's a whole 'nother debate.:mrgreen:
You can always put a fake selector in for look and fun if you want. I'd like an M14 with a true selector, but am not will to pay the cost of what they are on market because of the draconian laws and submit to those draconian laws and further taxation of what is my right to have as far as I'm concerned. Same as an SBR.

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Being a senior citizen, I've had experience with AR's, Mini 14's, HK 91's, M1 Carbines and AK 47's. IMHO, I think the Mini 14 was the worst! I enjoyed the AR's and M1's and would give them a positive rating. I also did see advantages to the AK's. YMMV. JR
 

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I have both ARs and AKs and Aks are what I would suggest, they are pretty no frills, you can mod them with general ease, but can cost a little less then the ARs, look up a Norinco Mak-90 (square cut reciever) for around $600, swap out the stocks (look up 922r compliance) and you'll have a solid, rugged rifle for well under 1k. You can then spend the extra 200 bucks on ammo, and you are set.

Just what I would do, and I am a tight wad!!!
 

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because their is a lot of furniture available for it
everything but the kitchen sink, but that was i checked

**** WHAT WILL BE ITS PURPOSE*****
MBR?
Truck gun?
Hunting?
Killing zombies?
 

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Being a senior citizen, I've had experience with AR's, Mini 14's, HK 91's, M1 Carbines and AK 47's. IMHO, I think the Mini 14 was the worst! I enjoyed the AR's and M1's and would give them a positive rating. I also did see advantages to the AK's. YMMV. JR
agreed
mini 14 is not your huckleberry
 

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When you say why an AR, that takes in a large spectrum of rifles. They come in more calibers than just about any rifle, there are direct impingement and piston driven types but in most cases they have stuck to military specs such as chrome barrels.
 

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ARs are the Barbie Dolls of the gun world. So much fun to dress up.

I love my AR15s, but I would not hesitate to pick up an AK47 if SHTF. Millions of rebels and foreign militaries seem to like them.
 

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You can always put a fake selector in for look and fun if you want. I'd like an M14 with a true selector, but am not will to pay the cost of what they are on market because of the draconian laws and submit to those draconian laws and further taxation of what is my right to have as far as I'm concerned. Same as an SBR.

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The two that I was issued, Basic Training and after with a stateside field artillery unit, both had the "button" covering the spot where the selector went. The unit armorer could remove these and install the switch if need be, but by 1967 they figured out a full auto M-14 was an excersize in futility.

Do you belong to any of the M-14 forums? I'm on three such sites, and others dealing with milsurps. same screen name everywhere.
 
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