Hmmmm well I see GunKid got tossed....for reference folks ( and future recognition of this individual) the above was posted almost word for word by this entity during his little blowout on American Preppers Net.when, not if, peaceful, unarmed children and women decide to hang out around your retreat? they will attract male looters, if nothing else. You CAN'T feed them or risk the disease contamination, so can/will you just shoot them all dead? The ones that you "run off" will just lead looters back to you, you know. Above ground buildings are much too easily located, and "taken" by force. Forget them.