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Sourdough seems to have the attitude that if you haven't prepped exactly the way he has, with exactly the preps he has, then you're a charlatan. And if there's a skill you have he doesn't, or an item you have and he doesn't, that means you're stupid.
No totally wrong, everyone can prep as they choose. Buying a few things well surely work if the problem can be mitigated with those.
 

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No totally wrong, everyone can prep as they choose. Buying a few things well surely work if the problem can be mitigated with those.
But according to you, that's sick, cruel, fraudulent and mental masturbation.
 

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How would your experience help an urbanite dealing with loss of power, hordes of rioters, and economic collapse?
I spent four years living in Rochester, New York attending RIT in the 60's. I understand urban life.

Economic collapse, is also an area I have painful experience in. In the 1980 suffered a certified depression (you can do a search) we lost 76% of our banks, credit unions, savings & loan companies to bankruptcy. I personally lost $963,000.00 (my entire first million)

As to dealing with "Hordes of Rioters" I assure you 1965-1969 Rochester, NY was torn apart by rioters. I also have rioters on my property, they do substantial damage eight months a year, they even mauled my friend of 21 years to death in the backyard. Then the Grizzly that killed Dan, ate on him, when that bear was full and walked away a Black Bear stepped up and ate on Dan.

As for loss of power, I have lived for decades with no power deep in Alaska wilderness.

Sorry, that I seem to be upsetting members here. I am very passionate about the future of the prepping movement. Now nearing eight decades of adventures on earth, I was informed by my medical people on September 28, 2022 that my time is over. So I am endeavoring to help the future of prepping as best I can. My structured training started in 1952 by men whoo returned from WW-II.
 

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I spent four years living in Rochester, New York attending RIT in the 60's. I understand urban life.

Economic collapse, is also an area I have painful experience in. In the 1980 suffered a certified depression (you can do a search) we lost 76% of our banks, credit unions, savings & loan companies to bankruptcy. I personally lost $963,000.00 (my entire first million)

As to dealing with "Hordes of Rioters" I assure you 1965-1969 Rochester, NY was torn apart by rioters. I also have rioters on my property, they do substantial damage eight months a year, they even mauled my friend of 21 years to death in the backyard. Then the Grizzly that killed Dan, ate on him, when that bear was full and walked away a Black Bear stepped up and ate on Dan.

As for loss of power, I have lived for decades with no power deep in Alaska wilderness.

Sorry, that I seem to be upsetting members here. I am very passionate about the future of the prepping movement. Now nearing eight decades of adventures on earth, I was informed by my medical people on September 28, 2022 that my time is over. So I am endeavoring to help the future of prepping as best I can. My structured training started in 1952 by men whoo returned from WW-II.
With respect, you didn't answer the actual question.
I didn't ask for your experience. I asked about how it would help others.
You're on a prepping site. You came here to either learn, teach, or garner entertainment.
Assuming you're here to teach, relying on your own experiences, I'll ask again...

How would your experience help an urbanite dealing with loss of power, hordes of rioters, and economic collapse?
Be specific. Offer examples, lessons, insights, anecdotes, etc...
Start threads on topics you think are important to teach others.

But bloviating about how experienced you are, how others are not following "true prepping", and how everyone else is just going to die, is pointless trolling for the sake of ego.
 

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NO, wrong, "The current Prepping Theory" is SICK, CRUEL, and FRADULANT MENTAL MASTURBATION. There is a clear distinction between the theory and the individual.
So lemme get this straight. "The current prepping theory is sick, cruel, fraudulent and mental masturbation." But if that leads someone to purchase something, become skilled in a craft or otherwise prepares them, it's not?

I'd like to know the mental gymnastics you need to go through to maintain such a dichotomy.
 

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What is the "FOUNDATION" of your Prepping Program...???

The foundation of my prepping program has remined constant for more than five decades. "Always live where there is an overabundance of food, FREE for the harvesting, and little if any competition for that food". Everything is built on that foundation.
 

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There is this blowhard member on another survival site who once posted a thread that IIRC was titled, "Embrace the suck".
He/she was enamored living in a freezer state, and pompous beyond all repair.
Was meant to be serious, but their delusional points made for some hilarious reading.
Pages and pages of "my way or you're stupid" chest pumping.

Not sure why all this comes to mind bout now ...
 

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I am just prepping for things that I might have some control over. Wide-spread power outages, bad weather, etc. Bigger things i"ll have to deal with if they crop up. If it really starts to get nasty, I'll head for our bugout rally point.
 

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"How would your experience help an urbanite dealing with loss of power, hordes of rioters, and economic collapse?
Be specific. Offer examples, lessons, insights, anecdotes, etc... "

You forgot municipal sewer backing up and filling your basement through the downstairs toilet.

I think it's silly asking backwoods country folk for knowledgeable advice for urban survival. Obviously our solution to the dilemma is don't be there. It makes life easier that way.

Remember, if you're within 7 miles of a 7-11, you're toast.

My advice for urbanites is leave early and beat the rush. Don't wait to see it on CNN, you won't get out, and you won't get here. You will be stuck "out there."

Other than that, the only thing I can offer is recipes to make park ducks and your neighbor's old yappy dog tender and tasty.
 

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I think it's silly asking backwoods country folk for knowledgeable advice for urban survival. Obviously our solution to the dilemma is don't be there. It makes life easier that way.
Then you miss my point.
Sour seems to think he has the right answers. But they only apply to those capable of living the way he claims to have lived.
Someone like him can't come onto a site like this, lay down his version of The Prepper's Gospel, and expect everyone to just fall in line. Most of the country simply can't expect to live out in the woods.
So, he's more than welcome (encouraged even) to offer all the advice he has on how one can live in the woods. But if that's all he has to offer, his audience is going to be small, so his pride should be as well.
 

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Then you miss my point.
Sour seems to think he has the right answers. But they only apply to those capable of living the way he claims to have lived.
Someone like him can't come onto a site like this, lay down his version of The Prepper's Gospel, and expect everyone to just fall in line. Most of the country simply can't expect to live out in the woods.
So, he's more than welcome (encouraged even) to offer all the advice he has on how one can live in the woods. But if that's all he has to offer, his audience is going to be small, so his pride should be as well.
Actually, you a fair bit off about me. I am NOT selling run to the wilderness. Most have never seen wilderness, so why should I encourage them to go where they can't survive, I am not. My goal is two fold, to help anyone interested to see that modern/current prepping is not going to work. If they can come to grips with that (which very-very few will) then show them the old theory of prepping. I accept that very-very-very few will embrace that either. So, I accept reality of the situation and attempt to help the very few.

I have said several times, you can't convince a fish of any reality other than immersion in water. Just as it is impossible or very nearly impossible for those immersed in current prepping programing/theory to see that it will only work for a finite few situations, mostly involving time duration and probability of safety.
 

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Okay, Super Mod, give me one great urban prep that allows you to live safe and comfortable in your urban home during calamity and collapse?

I think you're making an issue of townies vs. bumpkins. Sourdough's advice, "Always live where there is an overabundance of food, FREE for the harvesting, and little if any competition for that food". Everything is built on that foundation, " is sound, and can be achieved in a suburban yard.
 

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Okay, Super Mod, give me one great urban prep that allows you to live safe and comfortable in your urban home during calamity and collapse?

I think you're making an issue of townies vs. bumpkins. Sourdough's advice, "Always live where there is an overabundance of food, FREE for the harvesting, and little if any competition for that food". Everything is built on that foundation, " is sound, and can be achieved in a suburban yard.
Then why would did you classify my question to him as silly?
Sounds like you think he does have advice that will work for urbanites. Getting him to share it is like pulling teeth, however.

My status as a mod on this site has no bearing on my prepping knowledge. Feel free to look through my extensive history of posts and decide for yourself if my advice is helpful.
Unlike some others, I don't present myself as the end all be all of prepping.
 

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Actually, you a fair bit off about me. I am NOT selling run to the wilderness. Most have never seen wilderness, so why should I encourage them to go where they can't survive, I am not.
Well that is indeed the vibe you send out. Even Crabby said "Obviously our solution to the dilemma is don't be there. It makes life easier that way. ", clearly implying they believe you adhere to the "head for the sticks" model too.
 

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You are a victim of current prepping theory. And you reject old prepping theory, even as you do not understand it. I agree it is a choice, your choice.
If you don't mind, please point to any instance where I rejected anyone's chosen form of preparing for the unknown.
Quotes would be exceptionally helpful.
Support your claim, or retract it.

As to understanding "old prepper theory", you've yet to provide any semblance of a definition for it other than a date range. Thus far, it's a concept known only to you and tucked away within the folds of your brain alone. I keep waiting for the revelation of knowledge you desperately want someone to ask you for that will save everyone. I think I'll be waiting quite a while...
 

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If you don't mind, please point to any instance where I rejected anyone's chosen form of preparing for the unknown.
Quotes would be exceptionally helpful.
Support your claim, or retract it.
The answer is in your second paragraph. You have out flanked yourself. You have outsmarted yourself.
 
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