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So, I suspect you never created a Personal Prepping Program. You simply watched some you-tube videos, and joined several forums, maybe a few books. Then choose different things you needed to acquire to be a prepper, with 11,000 posts. Yes, you are classic modern prepping theory expert.
 

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@Kauboy
So, I suspect you never created a Personal Prepping Program. You simply watched some you-tube videos, and joined several forums, maybe a few books. Then choose different things you needed to acquire to be a prepper, with 11,000 posts. Yes, you are classic modern prepping theory expert.
You suspect incorrectly.
I appreciate the adulation, but I'm no expert and never claimed to be.

I keep waiting for the self-promotion spiel and link to your for-a-cost prepper salvation website. Surely you have SOMETHING of substance to offer besides cryptic Secret Squirrel messages.
 

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Sorry, I have none of that. All I have is many-many decades of, "Boots in the Field" experience.
If you are asking if people sought to outline their needs and contingencies and systematically build a prep - no.
I had superior depression surviving grandparents, a forest/river loving father and a nuclear mp brother who were Scottish.
The family another thousand years is always the "foundation" and we do not expect to have time for flow charts and trend reports in a bad time. We expect no "consistency" to rely on, but a vigilant observation and ability to rapidly adapt is the constant "change" that allows for stability. A static thing collapses and constant change is needed to keep a thing the same and forward going.

What I think you are new to is the present human condition in as far as how many people will actually contact reality and be living for the first time. I used to say you can't give it to em if they dont know what to look for....but now i think that some people, through all the delusion and bullsht simply "have it" and will do ok by their own higher nature as long as they realize they're probably the only one. They may know a couple others? Or it may just be dizzy beans that affirm the one that does have that certain pattern of parts that lets them see and handle it all much more successfully.

But any ideas or tools that help anybody "check" their self or think about things more is probably somewhat helpful to anybody?
 

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Sorry, I have none of that. All I have is many-many decades of, "Boots in the Field" experience.
Would you kindly elaborate on this experience so that we may have a better understanding of what you've done and what insights you may be willing to share?
 

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Would you kindly elaborate on this experience so that we may have a better understanding of what you've done and what insights you may be willing to share?
No arrogance, people who know me say it would take three books to answer that. Do you know who Dick Proenneke was. He was kind'a my neighbor (by Alaska standards) when I built my second homestead on Lake Clark. His life is well recorded on film, mine is not. dick proenneke - Search (bing.com)

Before living alone on majestic Lake Clark, in the early 70's I homesteaded one of the last Federal free land under the 1883 Homestead Act. This was near the headwaters of the Susitna River (interior Alaska). In the 90's I was on the Alaska Peninsula (alone) in a hunting lodge I had purchased. I spent 38 years as an Alaska Big Game Hunting Guide, guiding all over Alaska. About 23 years ago I started building my fourth homestead in the wilderness on the Kenai Peninsula, surrounded by the seven-million-acre Chugach National Forest. I am a commercial pilot and managed to crawl out of three PA-18-150 crashes deep in Alaska wilderness and survive. And that is just the easy to remember stuff.
 

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No arrogance, people who know me say it would take three books to answer that. Do you know who Dick Proenneke was. He was kind'a my neighbor (by Alaska standards) when I built my second homestead on Lake Clark. His life is well recorded on film, mine is not. dick proenneke - Search (bing.com)

Before living alone on majestic Lake Clark, in the early 70's I homesteaded one of the last Federal free land under the 1883 Homestead Act. This was near the headwaters of the Susitna River (interior Alaska). In the 90's I was on the Alaska Peninsula (alone) in a hunting lodge I had purchased. I spent 38 years as an Alaska Big Game Hunting Guide, guiding all over Alaska. About 23 years ago I started building my fourth homestead in the wilderness on the Kenai Peninsula, surrounded by the seven-million-acre Chugach National Forest. I am a commercial pilot and managed to crawl out of three PA-18-150 crashes deep in Alaska wilderness and survive. And that is just the easy to remember stuff.
Sounds like you're more of an off-grid wilderness survivalist.
How would your experience help an urbanite dealing with loss of power, hordes of rioters, and economic collapse?
To say that "new prepping" has ruined anything, when your perspective is vastly different from most other folks, is a narrow view.
This site seeks to spread knowledge to everyone about how they could prepare for trying times, whether they be inclement weather, job loss, food shortages, total societal collapse, or anything in between. Not everyone can, nor should, try to venture off into the wilderness to build a homestead. Such a plan would be outrageously unnecessary for a family just trying to prep for a potential job loss or ice storm.
 

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Not everyone can, nor should, try to venture off into the wilderness to build a homestead. Such a plan would be outrageously unnecessary for a family just trying to prep for a potential job loss or ice storm.
Your example it a most perfect example of why current modern propping is a joke. Job lose is in the class of mild "INCONVIENCE". The government will grant unemployment income and food stamps, plus other social agencies like church's, red cross, etc. will help. Modern prepping for survival is about "TEMPORARY" power outage, temporary food or "Butt'Wipe" shortage, mild inconveniences at the most dramatic. Prepping for mild inconvenience is the massive flaw in "Modern Prepping Theory". Modern prepping is seducing people into believing they are prepared. Which I find sick, cruel and a fraud.
 

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Your example it a most perfect example of why current modern propping is a joke. Job lose is in the class of mild "INCONVIENCE". The government will grant unemployment income and food stamps, plus other social agencies like church's, red cross, etc. will help. Modern prepping for survival is about "TEMPORARY" power outage, temporary food or "Butt'Wipe" shortage, mild inconveniences at the most dramatic. Prepping for mild inconvenience is the massive flaw in "Modern Prepping Theory". Modern prepping is seducing people into believing they are prepared. Which I find sick, cruel and a fraud.
Again, the "no true Scotsman" fallacy.

I hate to break it to you, but you don't get to define what being prepared means. :(
 

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Again, the "no true Scotsman" fallacy.

I hate to break it to you, but you don't get to define what being prepared means. :(
OK, I do get to see who is going to die a fairly horrific death, because they are attached to "NORMALICY BIAS".

I strongly suggest you study "Old School Prepping Theory". Or study "Bible Prepping Theory" You do have 7) Seven years of food and water....?????

Old School, was preparing for catastrophic disaster. Like sixty-six MILLION dead in WW-II. Or surviving nuclear war. It was not purchasing bubble wrapped gismos for the bug out bag, to hell.
 

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OK, I do get to see who is going to die a fairly horrific death, because they are attached to "NORMALICY BIAS".

I strongly suggest you study "Old School Prepping Theory". Or study "Bible Prepping Theory" You do have 7) Seven years of food and water....?????

Old School, was preparing for catastrophic disaster. Like sixty-six MILLION dead in WW-II. Or surviving nuclear war. It was not purchasing bubble wrapped gismos for the bug out bag, to hell.
I'm trying to get across to you a very simple concept.
Being prepared is not a defined thing. It is a mindset. That mindset differs for everyone. Their circumstances are different. Their capabilities are different.
Who is the more wise prepper?
The one who prepares for the most likely disaster, and actually ends up relying on their provisions because the likely scenario comes to pass?
Or the one who prepares for a "once in a thousand years" apocalyptic event that never happens?

Some people are so tied to this mortal coil that they cannot fathom death, and must attempt preparations for the worst of all possible events, thinking it's better to live through them than to die.
Others have something much better to look forward to after this life, and only work toward surviving what is worth surviving.
I have no desire to live through the aftermath of a nuclear war. Any that do have no concept of the struggle that would lie before them.
 

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I'm trying to get across to you a very simple concept.
Being prepared is not a defined thing. It is a mindset. That mindset differs for everyone. Their circumstances are different. Their capabilities are different.
Who is the more wise prepper?
OK, mindset is mental masturbation. Go ahead set your mind that you are an elite infantryman with 33 years' experience and training. Or dial-in a mindset you have 22 years' experience as a fighter jet aircraft pilot. Or 24 years doing brain surgery.

Mindset is just mental masturbation. It is a wet-dream in the head. Now actually living it, have it as muscle memory is what is authentic.
 

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OK, mindset is mental masturbation. Go ahead set your mind that you are an elite infantryman with 33 years' experience and training. Or dial-in a mindset you have 22 years' experience as a fighter jet aircraft pilot. Or 24 years doing brain surgery.

Mindset is just mental masturbation. It is a wet-dream in the head. Now actually living it, have it as muscle memory is what is authentic.
Yep, troll senses are tingling...

You seem to be stuck in the mindset that you're an authority on the matter. :ROFLMAO:
 

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Yep, troll senses are tingling...

You seem to be stuck in the mindset that you're an authority on the matter. :ROFLMAO:
Two names come to mind. Dunning and Kruger. ;)

Sourdough seems to have the attitude that if you haven't prepped exactly the way he has, with exactly the preps he has, then you're a charlatan. And if there's a skill you have he doesn't, or an item you have and he doesn't, that means you're stupid.

IE, if you're prepping for small children because, well, you have small children, it's dumb because he doesn't have children and isn't prepping for them.
 
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