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One of a few weapons I prep. This is my general home defense for burglars that may have already gotten in the house.

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I'm jealous.

I've been trying to get my hands on one for a few months now and can't quite find something I want to pull the trigger on.
 

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What do I think about it? Let me be polite as I try to explain.

First time I have ever seen a laser on a shotgun. Not exactly a weapon designed for pinpoint accuracy.

Collapsible stock is useful, can change your length of pull.

Dual pistol grips - under stress I think you are going to be fighting the gun - people undergo sympathetic reactions when surprised or experiencing an adrenalin dump - you will be gripping a pistol grip and pulling a trigger with one hand while gripping with the support hand and actuating a slide. It is kinda like patting yourself on the head while rubbing your stomach while a 200 pound man is charging at you trying to take your weapon away...that is gonna be tough to master if you ask me. Looks like a great way to mess things up.

Two sets of side saddle shell holders - never saw that before either. You can probably make it work, but it looks very unwieldy.

My honest opinion - that thing is not a fighting shotgun. It is an odd compilation of mismatched parts. Laser on a shotgun - seriously....

If it works for you, enjoy it. To me, it looks exactly like you don't use a shotgun very often....
 

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Way to make a simple point n shoot weapon difficult.
If I was to pimp a mossy.. torch, folding stock and maybe one shell holder..
Smooth functional and efficient.

But that's just my opinion
 

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It doesn't really matter what I think, only if you are proficient with it. As for my thoughts, I don't like it. While I prefer the Remington 870, the Moss 500 is a fine platform. I would never put a sling on a home defense weapon as it is something someone else could easily grab onto in the dark. The pistol grip on the forearm is unnecessary and prevents using the shotgun with a stock/butt-stoke on an attacker if you are close enough and out of ammo. A light is good, a laser is not. I don't care for the folding stock and your shell saddle blocks your sight line and is just one more thing to get hung up in combat. I'm sorry if this comes across as bashing a weapon you obviously put a lot of time and money into. I would suggest you sign up for a local or distant firearms course and really put your weapon to use. Then I think you will have a better understanding of what works and what is unnecessary glitter that may end up getting you killed.
 

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My "tactical" shotgun is a simple 12 gauge Ithaca Model 37 Featherwight DS Police Special. That's a cylinder bore, rifle sighted, 18" barrel, wooden stocked, pump gun. Serial number shows it was made in 1972. I keep it in the closet with 5 rounds of OO buck in the magazine and 5 more rounds in an elastic butt cuff.
I also have a plain old 12 ga Remington 870 bird gun. Cost me $185, used. It will do most any job asked of a shotgun if you use the correct ammo.
I'm not a flashy guy, I don't have flashy firearms. But, Hey, if you want all that stuff on your gun that is your choice. Spend the money, support the gun business.
I'm not bashing your taste in weapons, either, but as noted above - try it out at the range. Get some time with it and you may change your mind about a couple things.
I prefer simplicity in weapons.
 

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It doesn't really matter what I think, only if you are proficient with it. As for my thoughts, I don't like it. While I prefer the Remington 870, the Moss 500 is a fine platform. I would never put a sling on a home defense weapon as it is something someone else could easily grab onto in the dark. The pistol grip on the forearm is unnecessary and prevents using the shotgun with a stock/butt-stoke on an attacker if you are close enough and out of ammo. A light is good, a laser is not. I don't care for the folding stock and your shell saddle blocks your sight line and is just one more thing to get hung up in combat. I'm sorry if this comes across as bashing a weapon you obviously put a lot of time and money into. I would suggest you sign up for a local or distant firearms course and really put your weapon to use. Then I think you will have a better understanding of what works and what is unnecessary glitter that may end up getting you killed.
I agree with a lot of this, the sling I took off after the video, all the accessories came on it when I bought it. The laser attached to the flashlight so it's a if you have one you gotta have the other, but all you do is tap it and they come on. I have a course in my yard and practice all the time and I didn't think I would like the dual pistol grips but once using it, it seems much smoother to pump and refire. I'm keeping the sling if I ever have to hit the road on foot it would come in handy. But really I like the honesty on this site and it helps a lot from people that have the knowledge.
 

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Mr. Smiley - That was a mature response to some constructive criticism. You're O.K. in my book and we all come here to learn something. Practicing in your backyard is great, but I really would encourage you to spend some time at a respected course. You will learn so much it will be amazing. Good luck to you.
 

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I have a 870 and a 500, with softer recoil pads ,sling studs and an Allen elastic shell holder on the buttstocks.

The sling goes on when afield only.
Well I guess I do have a scabbard for it, I put a sling on it and just did not like the feel of the sling so I got the scabbard instead. that I think is about as tricked out as it's going to get. I got the crusader model that holds 8+1. If I need more than 9 rounds with a shotgun I am going to be in more trouble than a cat in a rocking chair store lets just say lol.
 

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I have a few Mossberg shotguns, but my choice for tactical uses is the Tri Star Tec 12 ga. It is semi-auto or pump built in one shotgun. I really like this firearm.
 

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Well I guess I do have a scabbard for it, I put a sling on it and just did not like the feel of the sling so I got the scabbard instead. that I think is about as tricked out as it's going to get. I got the crusader model that holds 8+1. If I need more than 9 rounds with a shotgun I am going to be in more trouble than a cat in a rocking chair store lets just say lol.
I have an eight round magazine and two side carriers on my HD shotgun. The magazine contains 00 buck my preferred load for defensive use. One side carrier on the receiver carries slugs. One on the butt stock carries #4 buck. Will I ever use 19 rounds of 12 gauge in an encounter? Doubtful in the extreme. However if situational considerations make me wish to increase or decrease penetration I can do so in the dark without returning to the closet where I keep my ammo.
 

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I have an eight round magazine and two side carriers on my HD shotgun. The magazine contains 00 buck my preferred load for defensive use. One side carrier on the receiver carries slugs. One on the butt stock carries #4 buck. Will I ever use 19 rounds of 12 gauge in an encounter? Doubtful in the extreme. However if situational considerations make me wish to increase or decrease penetration I can do so in the dark without returning to the closet where I keep my ammo.
I don't think that in the dark and under stress you'll be making many situational considerations. KISS.
 

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Mr. Smiley - That was a mature response to some constructive criticism. You're O.K. in my book and we all come here to learn something. Practicing in your backyard is great, but I really would encourage you to spend some time at a respected course. You will learn so much it will be amazing. Good luck to you.
What he said!
 

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Choate used to make a nice top folding stock for the Mossy. Not plastic. I didn't see it on their site the last time I looked.
Makes for a handy sized weapon in the house.
 

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I have Mossberg 500 and use Armytek Predator for it. I'm happy with both. To use a flashlight is very convenient. It's not heavy and I don't have any problems with it.
 
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