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I can't.
The boy learned that life is a series of choices, and choices have consequences.

He got off light. Cursing the wrong people can get you hurt. Or killed.
 
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The student showed no more disrespect or use any language our current president has not used. If the president can do it and allow his staff to do it everyone can do it . One of trumps press secretaries was on the news talking about anther white house staffer , Steve Bannon , sucking his own ding-a-ling.

trump as made fun of the disabled called people names and cursed in public . That is the standard. It is now acceptable to brag about cheating on three wives, to admit to paying off porn stars ( trump threatened to sue for 20 million should Stormy break the Nondisclosure agreement.) To use "locker room " talk when describing sexual assaults.

The student should not have been reported . If reported the school should not have taken any action against him. Did he say it in school at an assembly ? NO. Not a crime and the school should not have taken any action.
The staff member was not being cursed at only his boss . So which one of you reading this has never called a Congressperson or senator an ass or worse ?

http://time.com/4978212/donald-trump-cursing-swear-words/
 
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The student showed no more disrespect or use any language our current president has not used. If the president can do it and allow his staff to do it everyone can do it . One of trumps press secretaries was on the news talking about anther white house staffer , Steve Bannon , sucking his own cock.

trump as made fun of the disabled called people names and cursed in public . That is the standard. It is now acceptable to brag about cheating on three wives, to admit to paying off porn stars ( trump threatened to sue for 20 million should Stormy break the Nondisclosure agreement.) To use "locker room " talk when describing sexual assaults.

The student should not have been reported . If reported the school should not have taken any action against him. Did he say it in school at an assembly ? NO. Not a crime and the school should not have taken any action.
The staff member was not being cursed at only his boss . So which one of you reading this has never called a Congressperson or senator an ass or worse ?

Donald Trump Curses More Publicly Than Past Presidents | Time
You just wanna bitch about Trump; seriously doubt you ever 'saw both sides' as your OP states.

With all Constitutionally granted Rights - comes the inherent requirement of taking responsibility for our own decisions and choices while exercising those Rights. The kid has as much Right to say what he said as Trump has to say what he says. Now, the kid gets to be responsible for the outcomes his choice brings with it... just like you want Trump to be responsible for the outcomes of his choices.

You don't get it both ways.
 
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On that protest day I didn't see one single kid standing outside of a school. Ya know why?

Because I was at work PAYING FOR THOSE LITTLE TURDS EDUCATION; that they obviously aren't taking advantage of because this prepubescent SJW doesn't even understand what the 1A says or means!
 
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He did what he wanted. This was organized by the school and he was representing such. It was not “his” protest. If he chose on his own time and initiative to cuss and it was only a reflection on him nothing would have come of it. He made his school and its administrators look bad to government on whom the school district educators depend on funds and pensions. That was in no way going to be overlooked. The school was all for protest their way, not necessarily for individual protest. Same goes with any organization. If your going to publicly represent an entity or organization in a protest or anything else that organization has a right to expect certain behaviors and those representing it have an obligation to comply Going off the reservation has consequences.
 
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Actually, saying what I want is not supposed to have any consequences from the government.

Everyone get your hairsplitter out, and let's go around.

I say that "congress shall make no law..." means that he sits there and takes it if he answers the phone, and he doesn't take any actions in revenge.
 
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I'm betting it means that I can say whatever I want regarding our government however I want, and be free from any consequences from the government, because my speech is protected from government action.

Even if I'm a Klan member, advocating illegal segregation.

It doesn't matter what I say or how I say it, the government does not do anything except sit there and take it.
 
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Try shooting your mouth of with foul language in any court room in this country. See how fast you get shutdown by the judge for exercising your first amendment rights. Now see how far a lawsuit against a sitting judge gets you, especially if you ever appear before any other judge. Age is no excuse for not controlling ones mouth. Mental disorders could be.

It was a school sanctioned function, not a private affair. The school had every expectation that the students participating would follow the rules of the school for speech and behavior. He made a mistake, got corrected for it. Move on and learn your lesson.
 
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Some one ought to send this kid back to school, and make him study the Constitution. Especially the 2A and the 10A.

A state, county or city cannot overrule a Right in the Bill of Rights. There are now 22,000 local laws about guns, and all of them are unconstitutional. Once again, study the Volstead Act and see how the Amendments are altered or repealed. A local "law" means nothing.
 
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You seem to not understand the context of this entire argument.

The kid made a statement (albeit rude) to a government official. The government official (which is where you seem to have some issue with this) did not stop the kid from saying it or punish him for saying it. The government official merly called the kids school and, basically, told on the kid. The school executed punishment on the student, which is well within their rights.
 
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Free speech has it's limit. Setting, and content can be regulated. Back to the old yell fire in a movie theater. You can show a pron video it a school to minors.(unless you are a liberal teacher) . Yet the video is free speech. As always it is up to 5 of 9 in the end to decide if the restriction is reasonable How they rule is based on their agenda. or not. The fact the punk thinks it is ok in the first place reflects how agenda drive our education system is.
 
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Freedom of speech has consequences as all rights do. The kid was learning that till the ACLU stepped in with their PCBS. He was being punished as a 17 year old kid who used vulgar language when addressing an adult. He was being taught respect for elders, not denied his right to speech, as uninformed as it was. I can surely attest to how my Dad would have taught me the consequences of swearing to an adult. :beaten:
 
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"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

No law made.
No abridgment suffered.
No case.

Class dismissed.
 
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The ACLU needs to be publicly defunded. They get reimbursed no matter what creating unequal justice in that others can not match financial resources to contest lawsuits. Let them sue on a basis like everyone else. It is akin to being nonunion and being forced to pay union dues for political activities you disagree with. I am forced to pay taxes to fund this organization to do things I politically disagree with. If others want to donate so be it.
 
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Something tells me our two resident liberals/progressives don't have a problem with gangsta rap...don't have a problem with the major networks showing extreme violence...don't have a problem with draq queens promoting an unhealthy agenda...

But a President that says "son-of-a-bitch"? Oh my Lord....what has the world come to?
 
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I remember visiting a fellow guardsman's home, back in 1992. He and I were having a discussion on politics or something like that when his six-year-old daughter interrupts to babble some nonsense she thought was pertinent to the disussion. Rather than reprimanding her, he allowed her to interrupt. He could tell I was not amused, so he informed me that he and his wife were teaching her that her thoughts and opinions were as valuable as anyone else's. I was not amused by that explanation, either.

I'm seeing similarities.
 
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17-year-old Noah Christiansen of Robert McQueen High School in Reno, NV is one foolish little socialist punk and if I was his father I'd whip his little ass and make the future socialist very very sorry he did what he did.

But obviously, my sons would never have done something that stupid, fight to give away their rights, so I' good. But out of pure principle, the little douchebag needs his ass kicked anyway.
 
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