Walmart Asks Employees to Donate to Employees

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Denton

Discussion Starter · Nov 19, 2013

How vulgar is this? The company that profited 15.7 billion dollars last year is asking low wage employees to donate food to other low wage employees.

Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food - Business Insider

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wesley762

· #41 · Nov 19, 2013

jesstheshow said:
Are you kidding me? Shes 80 freaking years old, and she pinched A LOT after he passed away. You sound like a privileged brat. You really do not come from lower middle class, do you? I dont think you have an inkling of what struggle is, friend

I am sorry you have to resort to name calling, Not my style. and unfortunately you know nothing about me. I was not privileged by any means. I was raised by a single mother raising 3 boys with no Father in site. She worked 2 very low paying jobs just to keep the power on and keep food on the table. I grew up wearing second hand clothes. I am sure you have heard the saying beans and rice, well that's what we ate. I started working at 12 years old to help my mother pay for things. I never had things given to me. I have always worked for what I have. I remember sitting in line for food stamps with my mom growing up because our father abandon us at a very young age.

I watched my mom struggle paying the bills and trying to keep us fed and clothed. I know first-hand what it is like to be poor. Like I said I have earned what I have and where I am at because I worked hard for it.

My childhood was a learning experience of what not to do, I grew up really fast because I had to. I learned you have to work hard and even harder to succeed in life. It will not be handed to you, you will have to earn it.

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jesstheshow

· #42 · Nov 19, 2013

so you know what its like to struggle, yet you can still put people down? Well, do you think that your mother shouldve waited to have kids? do you blame her for her situation? You'd think you wouldnt be so degrading and so quick to blame people for their circumstances, considering what your mother went through.

wesley762

· #43 · Nov 19, 2013

jesstheshow said:
so you know what its like to struggle, yet you can still put people down? Well, do you think that your mother shouldve waited to have kids? do you blame her for her situation? You'd think you wouldnt be so degrading and so quick to blame people for their circumstances, considering what your mother went through.

Not putting anyone down, just stating facts. I am sorry if some people just don't like them.

jesstheshow

· #44 · Nov 19, 2013

wesley762 said:
Not putting anyone down, just stating facts. I am sorry if some people just don't like them.

Maybe your mother shouldnt have had kids, instead of struggled.

Farfetched, right? Thats basically what you were saying.

wesley762

· #45 · Nov 19, 2013

jesstheshow said:
Maybe your mother shouldnt have had kids, instead of struggled.

Farfetched, right? Thats basically what you were saying.

Not what I was saying at all, She should have gotten a better education that would have produced a better income. Improved her income capablity. Her parents fault for not encourging that. She could have gone to night school and gotten a better education. Like I said I learned from my childhood what not to do. My mom was not pefect by any means and there are alot of things she could have done to do better.

rickkyw1720pf

· #46 · Nov 19, 2013 (Edited)

kevincali said:
Control your own destiny? Make great decisions when you're young?

I have to put my story out there.

I was working a great job. Still somewhat check to check, but bills paid, food on the table, a little savings, and a small discretionary fund. Then someone who wanted my job spread lies, they believed it even though multiple tests proved otherwise. I can't fight it because the reason they put for my let go, is hard to disprove (slow work)

So I was forced out of work. MONTHS later, I finally get a part time gig. It's just maintenance and janitorial work, but its something. I worked myself out of a job, because I cleaned the hell out of everything, did a bunch of preventative maintenance, and now I'm only needed once a week for a couple hours. Should I have sucked at my job, and guaranteed my hours? Maybe, but its not right. Hell, last week was a 2 hour water heater install and 1 hour of that was driving to the Home Depot, and buying it.

So I've applied for a full time job. Haven't gotten it yet, might not get it.

BUT until I got the part time job, I burned through my savings like cheap pot.

Then when I got that part time job, I bought stuff for my rainwater system, fixed up the house a bit more, bought some plants and trees, drip irrigation system, searched craigslist and found a working oven, nice kitchen sink, wood fence material, insulation for an outbuilding, bought a beretta M9 and ammo. Bought LED lights for most of the house. But I DID sell one of my cars to free up a tiny bit of cash.

I do have friends who think I'm making the wrong decisions. I should bank all my money I get. I should invest it in stocks or bonds. Even just letting it sit in a savings account builds interest according to them.

But I'm securing a lifestyle here. Fruit trees, a garden, watered by free water (rainwater), using as little energy as possible, using as little water as possible. Using as little gas (natural and gasoline) as possible. Putting food and supplies away for an emergency (natural disaster, or manmade)

I'm only 27. I'm playing with the cards I was dealt. I will always be able to look back and say I should have thrown away the pair of kings because I would have been dealt a pair of aces.

But the reality is, you do what you do when you do it. You make a decision, pray its the right one, because you can't go back and change it. And sometimes you're wrong. Very very wrong. You just work through it, and try to make it as best you can.

Hell, I live in a trailer. It's cold in here most of the time. But I bundle up. It's dry inside when its raining outside. It's a bit warmer inside, when its cold outside. It's a bit cooler when it's hot outside. Would I rather have a house on 100 acres? Oh he'll yeah. And one day I might. I just have to work up to it. It's not in the cards. It may never be. I'll know when the time gets here.

But I'm by far NOT lazy. Do I have my lazy days. Yes I do. But I put hard work I to stuff.

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And here is a bad after pic. Taken lower down the hill. To the left is where the yuccas were. To the right is where the garden area is.
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I guess the point of my post is

No one has the same opportunities as another. The best we can do is work with what we have, work hard to improve our situation, and be as self reliant as possible.

I'm trying to reduce my cost of living as much as possible. Seems I'm spending MORE on things to be independent than if I were just to pay the damn bill haha

I knew people like you that worked hard with what was dealt them, many became very successful later in life. The funny thing is a lot will agree that the happiest time in their life was when they were broke and working towards a goal then actually reaching that goal.

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rickkyw1720pf

· #47 · Nov 19, 2013 (Edited)

jesstheshow said:
Well, in my grandmother's case. My grandfather passed away unexpectedly and she lasted about 4 years until the life insurance went away and the social security... The only thing she has now is disability. She lost her home, the one that they worked years and years and years for. She moved into a smaller home and had a house fire and insurance only covered so much. She now lives with my uncle and hates it. I guess she should just get off her ass and control her destiny, yeah?

I may be wrong but Disability takes the place of social security and actually pays more. Also one good reason to pay your house off because you really don't own it while there is a mortgage on it.
The truth is when ever we hear a story like this we are just seeing the last pages of a very long book.

I try to cover all bases but anything can happen stock market drop, inflation, depression, injury,war a whole lot of things. But the one thing I can't figure out a way to blame is companies that hired me at an agreed upon pay and that I could leave at anytime I chose. As a prepper we are preparing for the worst case scenario in which some even envision having to walk away from everything they have with just what then can carry on their back.

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dannydefense

· #48 · Nov 19, 2013 (Edited)

wesley762 said:
Wal-Mart is just demonized because of their size, and because they do turn a profit.

You've been drinking the kool-aid again. Nobody is victimizing poor ol' Wal-mart. Wal-mart has done this to themselves, which is why they have in recent months been written about in almost every major publication in this country. Nobody was whining that they made too much money. They were pointing out how poorly their lower level employees are treated WHILE at the same time turning such a large profit that it doesn't make any sense for how they are treating them. They were also criticized for their poor management -- at every level -- which results in one of the shittiest shopping experiences you'll ever have.

wesley762 said:
Again this is how Capitalism works, the guy with the best widget at the best price will win 98% of the time.

Again with the kool-aid. Drink some milk, it's healthier for you. Capitalism boiled down in very layman's terms for any simpleton; anybody with a better product will always be able to unseat the current leader and make money for themselves.

We don't have a capitalist economy anymore. We haven't for a long time. Try and put Wal-mart out of business. Try and put a Bank out of business -- hell, if you have enough money, they can't even charge you with a crime anymore, they just fine you and business goes on as usual.

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PalmettoTree

· #49 · Nov 19, 2013

Denton said:
How vulgar is this? The company that profited 15.7 billion dollars last year is asking low wage employees to donate food to other low wage employees.

Wal-Mart Asks Workers To Donate Food - Business Insider

There is nothing vulgar or unusual about this. It is common to every place I have work. Most often such a charity drive is at the request if fellow employees. They feel a need to help an employee or employees that have had a recent hardship. They understand a little from each can make a difference. Often an employer will match or anomously contribute.

This is nothing more than anti Wal Mart propaganda or ignorance about locations with a large number of employees regardless of the industry

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PaulS

· #50 · Nov 20, 2013

It might have been better to do a match - for every $ in food that each employee gave the company would match it.
That would improve employee relations and be good PR for the company.

If the employees wanted better hours, more pay and better benefits maybe they should form or join a union..... That is what employees did during the industrial revolution to make working conditions better.

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LunaticFringeInc

· #51 · Nov 20, 2013

I hear you Denton but lets also not forget that while they made 15.7 billion they average between 3-3.5% profit margin which is a stark contrast to the Evil Big Oil companys who make about a 6-8% profit, Big Pharacutical who made 18-24% profit and Apple/Microsoft that made between 30-36%. I know for a fact too that many of their full time employees got a free Turkey this year again for Thanksgiving. Are they as generous as they should be, no. But they are paying their employees more than my company is paying its security guards who have to have a clean criminal record and be drug free and pass a extensive back ground check, get less benefits than walmart offers, less pay in most cases than walmart pays and doesn't get any discounts (employees get 10% off purchases at the store) or bonuses though out the year. Im down with giving credit as quickly as I am willing to give discredit when and where ever its justly deserved. Just saying...

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MikeyPrepper

· #52 · Nov 20, 2013

Tired of this

Denton

Discussion Starter · #53 · Nov 20, 2013

PaulS said:
It might have been better to do a match - for every $ in food that each employee gave the company would match it.
That would improve employee relations and be good PR for the company.

If the employees wanted better hours, more pay and better benefits maybe they should form or join a union..... That is what employees did during the industrial revolution to make working conditions better.

There. That sounds good. Much better than organizing a food drive for the poor to the poor while sitting on huge profits.

By the way, I am sure some of you believe I am some sort of anti-capitalist hippie, but that is very far from the truth. I am very much anti-corporatalist, though. This nation has been made a nation of worker bees for the global corporations. Notice, Labor Day and no Free Enterprise Day. It isn't as easy to start a business, today, because the corporations who bought control of the government have insured the regs protect them and hinder you. Lovely, huh? Meanwhile, we are to blindly chant mantras that are sprinkled with the truth in order to hide the ugly lies.

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WildernessGuy24:13

· #54 · Nov 20, 2013

Maybe if we didn't support a retailer who sells crap made in China we'd have more better paying jobs here.

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wesley762

· #55 · Nov 20, 2013

WildernessGuy24:13 said:
Maybe if we didn't support a retailer who sells crap made in China we'd have more better paying jobs here.

The only problem with that is very little is actualy made in America, with that said I bet Wal-Mart carries more Made in America product than any other retailer. I just bought this weeking some plastic containers from there and was very supprised that they where in fact made in America.

WildernessGuy24:13

· #56 · Nov 20, 2013

wesley762 said:
The only problem with that is very little is actualy made in America, with that said I bet Wal-Mart carries more Made in America product than any other retailer. I just bought this weeking some plastic containers from there and was very supprised that they where in fact made in America.

Be that as it may, the issue is that people buy crap. People buy crap just to be out buying something. Spend the little extra to get something well made and will last a long time. Also don't throw away stuff just because it's old as long as it works keeps using it. I have many things that I bought 30 years ago that were expensive at the time, but still work just as good as they did when they were new.

WildernessGuy24:13

· #57 · Nov 20, 2013

rickfromillinois said:
Wal-Mart's biggest sin is that it has a wide selection products that it sells cheaper then anywhere else. Time after time efforts to unionize Walmart's employees has failed. It was giving medical insurance to it's employees years before anyone else did, and overwhelmingly most of it's management comes from it's lower employees. The employees themselves vote unionizing down. If you don't like what Walmart sells, don't go there. If you think all corporations are evil, then build your own car, make your own TV's, manufacture your own tools, and manufacture your own medications. Are there bad corporations? Sure. Are all corporations bad? Try living without them. Look at everything you own, what you want to own, your firearms, clothes, everything made of steel or that is manufactured. Everything that is transported. If you want to go back to the stone age, then good luck to you.

Walmart actively tries to screw it's employees for more profits. When corporations do this is when I check out. There are lots of corporations that care about their employees, Walmart is not one of them.

Besides the corporate structure is going to be it's own undoing. The model of "10% profit every year" in not supportable because like everything there are lean years. When those learn years hit the higher ups need to cut costs to make up the difference. Like our politicians it doesn't mean not giving out raises and bonuses to senior management it means screwing the little guy our of benefits, pay or retirement. It also means selling a crappy product. How many recalls does walmart have each year for unsafe products? hundreds, that because they buy things at the lowest possible price. They don't care if their products make you sick or kill your kids, as long as the bottom line is fat.

dannydefense

· #58 · Nov 20, 2013

rickfromillinois said:
Walmart has a very high job satisfaction rate with it's workers.

I mean this with all due respect, but have you ever been to a Wal-mart? You may be one of the lucky few, but around me there's at least three I can visit relatively easily. At one, I watched a guy with a backpack on and his pants around his knees, while wearing a vest and holding a broom (he even had a name tag) watch one of the tv's in the aisle. Just stood there. For half an hour. At another there's a group that work in produce that I'm pretty sure are carrying guns, and I'm not talking legally. They're dressed like hood rats, but their shirts are blue, so it's okay.

When you watch those shows where they make fun of big department stores, ie someone is looking for help, and people run in opposite directions to get away from them? That's Wal-mart. Girl chewing gum while texting on her phone and telling the person who just unloaded $300 worth of groceries on the conveyor (while she watched) that she's going on break and they're going to have to go to another aisle? That's wal-mart. 20 mother****ing lanes, and two people working? That's Wal-mart.

It has nothing to do with their success. They were successful. Now it's a cesspit.

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paraquack

· #59 · Nov 21, 2013

Not sure where you live Danny, but I do see a tinnie winnie bit of these types of employees. But that's about it. I shop at Wally World because of the prices like most people. I do feel that some corporations don't pay a living wage. While I was unemployed for 31 months in 2001 thru 2003, I had a job with Best Buy. The money was far from what I made before, around 30 % is all. But it was a job and employers look more fondly on a perspective hire who is employed. I can't afford not to shop at Wally World.

MikeyPrepper

· #60 · Nov 21, 2013

Tired of Wal-Mart they treat people terrible

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