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I speak from experience for nose chewing.

My Father told me to never underestimate my opponent, he said you may never not be the biggest or strongest but you can be the meanest. I think this plays a major part in any sort of violent altercation. Speed, Surprise and Violence of Action.
 

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I'll have you know that I know Judo, Karate and several other Japanese words.
I think that I could manage to grab my Bowie, then scream out Daktari, and charge. I saw that in an Austin Powers movie where Mustafa, grabbed a Kukrie, and went after Austin. And it left an impression on me. 馃馃嚞馃嚙
 
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I speak from experience for nose chewing.

My Father told me to never underestimate my opponent, he said you may never not be the biggest or strongest but you can be the meanest. I think this plays a major part in any sort of violent altercation. Speed, Surprise and Violence of Action.
Your father was right, and you should always expect a vicious attack, if an attack occurs. And someone trying to bite my nose off, that is vicious. And I would respond violently , with a weapon if I have one.
 

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MuayThai put to good use, I like that guy, he is like me, only young. And I commend the other guys for jumping in. The mother of the baby, had a lot of manpower coming to her defense, and that was the right thing to do.
 
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I am going to look into the cane defense, no one would look twice at me having a cane and I do have a handicap sticker from when I had my leg surgery.
First of all, if you don鈥檛 need a cane, then walking with one will probably negate the benefit of being able to use one for defense, as people may see you as an easy victim. Second of all, if you want to fight with a cane, I would recommend a Filipino Martial Arts school that does full contact stick sparring. Keep in mind, if you are not practicing footwork and resistance on a regular basis, then you may not be too much better that an old lady hitting someone with her purse.
 

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The man in the video tells you that you do not need to walk with a limp to have a cane. You can tuck it under your arm or hold it like a baseball bat. It doesn鈥檛 matter. Throw it over your shoulder, whatever.

As long as you don鈥檛 say it鈥檚 a weapon, it鈥檚 not a weapon. No one can take it away per ADA laws.

I can see the benefit in having a stick in places Guns and knives are not allowed, such as a court room or municipal building, etc. For self protection, of course.
 

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The man in the video tells you that you do not need to walk with a limp to have a cane. You can tuck it under your arm or hold it like a baseball bat. It doesn鈥檛 matter. Throw it over your shoulder, whatever.

As long as you don鈥檛 say it鈥檚 a weapon, it鈥檚 not a weapon. No one can take it away per ADA laws.

I can see the benefit in having a stick in places Guns and knives are not allowed, such as a court room or municipal building, etc. For self protection, of course.
Ranger, a cane is a safe bet for carry, just about anywhere, that is true: but, a weapon is in the eyes of the beholder.

That is a iffy thing and very subjective, if you use a cane it would be wise to look for one with a steel rod inside.
A company named Cold Steel probably has them for sale, I know personally that they have walking sticks with steel rods/cores inside of them; and the rod runs the length of the stick, which is made using poly pro (polypropylene ).

It is virtually indestructible and will break any arm that needs to be broken; I am thinking in terms of an attacker.



Note: that stick from Cold Steel is heavy, it is the heaviest stick that I have handled. But you know as well as I do, that you can get very light sticks, the ones with the steel caps come to my mind. Those should be fine IMHO.

I am going to look into the cane defense, no one would look twice at me having a cane and I do have a handicap sticker from when I had my leg surgery.
A cane is too light to use as a club, it probably won鈥檛 be enough to KO them, but a rap to their heads with one, will work to daze them. A few raps and now yer talking, but a metal walking stick is so much better. You can make your own but using light steel tubing, or you can go to Lowe鈥檚 or Home Depot or Grainger or any electrical supply place.

Getting back to wooden canes, take a class on how to use them as weapons. Here is one gem, use the hook on the cane to go between the legs of an attacker; and hook him with the upturned handle, and yank it.
That is certain to get his attention, or drop him in his tracks.




This is the Cold Steel polypropylene stick, it is a replica of a Blackthorn wooden stick. This one is unbreakable though, it is made of polypropylene .


eBay has Cold Steel canes, and everything else, and

First of all, if you don鈥檛 need a cane, then walking with one will probably negate the benefit of being able to use one for defense, as people may see you as an easy victim. Second of all, if you want to fight with a cane, I would recommend a Filipino Martial Arts school that does full contact stick sparring. Keep in mind, if you are not practicing footwork and resistance on a regular basis, then you may not be too much better that an old lady hitting someone with her purse.
True, and practice makes perfect. I use a home made walking sticks myself, I made my favorite one from aluminum conduit. I am pretty sure that I can break an arm with it.

KnifeCenter.com has the full line of Cold Steel canes and knives, by the looks of their pages.
 

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started taekwondo when I was 8...
got into a few school yard fights against untrained kids where i dominated until when I was 13... and had an inflated ego about my capabilities.. I had my ass handed to me by a much older bigger boy.
wrestled in HS... and in college began to compete in tournaments.. and did very well....
had the opportunity to 'street fight' in a few bars.. and was jumped once...
the lesson you learn is that it is really easy to hurt someone.. or be hurt.. by the punch you dont see coming...

by all means if you have to defend yourself... go balls out... crazy monkey shit on the MOFO...
but whenever possible its better to walk away from trouble with the only thing hurt is your ego....
better bruised ego.. than being broken, blinded, or brain damaged...

and FYI...
those who practice.. have a much bigger advantage than those who dont practice...
when I've gotten into fights... the guys are usually all rage filled and testosteroned up.. until they get that first shot in the face...
at that point they realize.. ouch.. I don't want to be here anymore...

those of us who have been in fights.. and have taken shots... its not as big of a fear.. because you know what it's like to be punched and kicked...
the training helps keeps you loose, and tactical.. rather than all tense.. and shaky... most of those guys get real winded and tired after about 60 seconds...
I've had guys cry out "time out" after I've hit them... (college kids)...
 

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Maybe someday. Something aggressive like Krav Maga. Maybe. I'm approaching 50 pretty quickly, and I've largely avoided street fights so far, and my bar-hopping days are behind me so I don't know if I'll ever be committed to training.

In the mean time, I have my CC license and carry my P365 and a switchblade (for opening Amazon boxes of course). Those are my black belt defenses.

My all time favorite knife fight. Thanks.
 

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started taekwondo when I was 8...
got into a few school yard fights against untrained kids where i dominated until when I was 13... and had an inflated ego about my capabilities.. I had my ass handed to me by a much older bigger boy.
wrestled in HS... and in college began to compete in tournaments.. and did very well....
had the opportunity to 'street fight' in a few bars.. and was jumped once...
the lesson you learn is that it is really easy to hurt someone.. or be hurt.. by the punch you dont see coming...

by all means if you have to defend yourself... go balls out... crazy monkey shit on the MOFO...
but whenever possible its better to walk away from trouble with the only thing hurt is your ego....
better bruised ego.. than being broken, blinded, or brain damaged...

and FYI...
those who practice.. have a much bigger advantage than those who dont practice...
when I've gotten into fights... the guys are usually all rage filled and testosteroned up.. until they get that first shot in the face...
at that point they realize.. ouch.. I don't want to be here anymore...

those of us who have been in fights.. and have taken shots... its not as big of a fear.. because you know what it's like to be punched and kicked...
the training helps keeps you loose, and tactical.. rather than all tense.. and shaky... most of those guys get real winded and tired after about 60 seconds...
I've had guys cry out "time out" after I've hit them... (college kids)...
Have bumped into more than several college trained wrestlers over the years. They tend to be highly salty in whatever confrontation they face. I had a 130 pounder turn me wrong side out in intramural wrestling back in College. He said he was headed off to wrestle with big boys in Japan for the Olympics and he could practice on me. I shoulda knew it was a trick looking back on it.
 

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...several college trained wrestlers over the years...

I am familiar with the breed. As a younger man I thought that only grunt could save my life. Of course, this was my tender age of "fighting fairly." Now if a literate and exceptional representative of inner city restitution doesn't know any Sicilian I would happy drop a cement brick on his foot, or any other distinct appendage. Yeah, yeah, I know, I know. But riddle me this youngsters, just where in any central large city's dictates is the statutory command of swearing an oath? In fact, I would never allow a possible thug to provide his right hand upward for any reason. He can just as easily produce his hand after my hand is filled--with .45 ACP ammunition.

The wrestlers I knew in college were pretty much the same. Lots of drunken boasting, plenty of broken fingers and hardly ever passage into a sophomore college promotion.

BTW, I saw a real-deal "cauliflower ear" once. Yes, it did look like an ear, but as for actually hearing, the cauliflower ear was totally useless. In fact, the owner's time in college was worthless, as well.

There's even an old gag about this. A wrestler gets angry at a skinning little kid and says, "How would you like to be punched right in the nose?"

The skinny kid replies, "Consider it done..."

Trying to sound intelligent, the wrestler ends with, "Well then, consider yourself punched in the nose..."

And while you're at it, how come boys from Kinnecanick Street never got into fights nor were they asked to join? Yikes, a nice Sicilian stiletto cost only about four bucks in 1950s Milwaukee, Wisconsin. I think I can still find one in my sock drawer...
 

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I kinda have my own unique fighting style that's a weird conglomeration of all the different martial arts the different me's have been trained in over the years lol. Krav Maga, Judo, Aikido, Shaolin Kempo Karate, Taekwondo, Jujitsu, Hapkido, Wrestling, and Boxing. My specialty is Krav Maga and Aikido; not terrible with a samurai sword and nunchakus either lol. Fond of sais. Especially love kusari chains; those gotta be the sexiest martial arts weapons on the whole damn planet lol. 馃槄

And I can throw shuriken pretty well, but I would never use throwing stars in a fight; they're more of a novelty. If I'm going to through a weapon at someone, it's going to either be a giant throwing knife, or a sai. Shruriken are too small and flimsy to penetrate clothing; they're better suited for hand-held weapons in close-quarters combat...ideally with kevlar gloves on lol. 馃槣
 

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Hoping to keep this thread alive.

My father, who is in his 70s, is a second degree blackbelt in a mixed martial arts, (a combination of TK, Kung Fu, & Hapkido. He still to this day practices. He would begin the day with punching a brick to build calluses on his fists. He thought that it was extremely important for his son to be able to defend himself (that would be me).

I started in TK, but found it to be less impressive then other martial art styles. Then my parents had paid for a private boxing instructor, so I could learn not only boxing, but more importantly how to take a punch. This they thought was especially important, pain management and the ability to get up until I either win or get knocked out. Talk a bout the love of a parent...

Then it was wrestling & some hapkido training as that I needed to be prepared for when someone got me to the ground.

Finally I was given a choice of the next art to learn, and I chose Fencing. In my High School they had a Fencing program and a Fencing team that competed other schools around the USA. In fact a former fencing champion was in that same class with me. I guess cause I chose this sport, and my love of swords, is the reason why i excelled in fencing. This High school starts for 9th grade, and the fencing levels are (in order of rank 1st one being the highest) A strip, B strip and the starting point C strip.

Some of the participants in class have been there since 9th grade and were now in their senior year and still stuck with the C strip rank, and there were only a few that were of the A strip rank, including that guy that was a former fencing champion. We were using the French Foil and after several weeks we were short a foil so my Japanese friend loaned me his which was a Belgium Pistol grip. It was love at first sight, ( the foil not my friend) and I used it in class ever since. Within the month I moved up to the B strip rank, another month & a half I was granted the highest rank of A strip. Their goal was to have the students match up vs people their own skill level. It was not long until I finally started to be matched up with the former fencing champion. By this time I was beating all the rest of the fencing students consistently.

In the end, i had 6 months of daily training prior to fighting the Asian champion who had a private trainer on top of the school, for over 10 years. Have no doubt, he kicked my A$$, repeatedly, but every match I always scored once or twice on him, which despite losing, I was truly proud to have hit him for points. Our teacher got me a Fencing scholarship, but it was at an University that I was not interested (poor engineering program) so I went to a different college. Due to how many people though that I had hurt in fencing class (big guy that was working in the moving business in HS), I was advised to try Kendo, another thing that I loved.

As for fighting goes, I am a tall, wide Redhead, and have had people trying to prove themselves using me countless times over the year, I have lost count how many fights I have been in. The one thing I have learned, there are always a means to beat an opponent that is either, stronger, faster, more skilled, or much bigger & heavier by changing your fighting styles. I have on two different occasions taken down a full line-back, and at the same time I had my @$$ handed to me on a silver platter by a really short, younger, extremely skilled, Asian guy.

Btw I agree, multiple attackers is a problem, I have had that happen more times I can count. Sometimes I was lucky, like this 8-10 vs 1 that surrounded me in a circle that were either kind enough or dumb enough to fight me one at a time, allowing me to be the last man standing, and other times where all i can say is that I am lucky I lived through it.

Street fighting is pretty much anything goes, and grabbing anything around you: a top to a metal garbage can, tearing off the side mirror to a car, a bottle on the ground or stick, throwing dirt into someone's eyes.
 

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IMO the primary benefits of martial arts are not so much the actual punching, kicking, or grappling but instead are fitness, confidence, decision making, risk assessment, situational awareness, and fight avoidance.

I have a minor martial arts background and could probably hold my own against the typical adult male and almost most females including trained female fighters, and I'm fairly tough (women are just weak, it's a fact. A few years ago at a bar a athletic woman for no reason at all who I had no communication with, blindside sucker punched me right on my left cheek/jaw area. It was a total haymaker and she put everything into it. It was a joke of a punch, and a similar punch from a man probably would have K.O.'d me. I literally laughed, that was my reaction. I laughed. It was like being punched by a child.)

I've not been in a physical fight since I was 16. If I studied "martial arts" to win fights, it would have been a waste of time, effort, and money. But having situational awareness is important. I also no longer rely on my fighting or toughness; I carry a gun everywhere I legally can, and I almost never travel anywhere I cannot carry a gun. The few disarmed locations, are inside heavily secured locations with armed guards and checkpoints.

So, in all reality, I'll never have to throw or take a punch. I will still be training for fitness and fighting, on the heavy bag, rolling a bit with BJJ, etc.
 

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This is some good grappling, but like everything else, while you are busy with one thing, some other thing is not being done. And I can think of some ways to get out of a grapple hold, especially against a girl.
Sorry ladies, it it is easy to get out of a lot of that, but it is great technique. And will work great on most guys.

Anyway, I don鈥檛 know what degree belts they have, one is a gold/white belt something and the other is a black and white belt something. But she is clearly the better fighter.

All of the girls are limber and stout in both videos, and relentless , they don鈥檛 give up. Darn good grapplers.
I have to comment on these videos. Not sure if there's some nonsense political agenda behind this "compilation," but girls mature physically faster than boys until early teen years. It's not a particular surprise that some girls can beat some boys in pre-puberty or at puberty years.

"Better fighter..." Uh, no. Let the boy punch her in the face. She apparently won, 1 match. We have no idea the context or any other matches. Quite likely, a fluke. Let's revisit these two when they are 20 and see what happens.

Let's not kid ourselves, men overtake women physically around high-school ages. Further, let these boys throw a few punches and it's over.
Any analysis of males vs females in practically any physical activities requiring toughness, strength, combat, speed, etc. shows that teenage boys beat professional adult female athletes - team sports, swimming, sprinting, endurance running, fighting sports, you name it. So I'm not sure about the hidden agenda behind showing some 12 year old girls beating some 12 year old boys, but these female advantages evaporate post-puberty and into adulthood.
 

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I have a minor martial arts background and could probably hold my own against the typical adult male and almost most females including trained female fighters, and I'm fairly tough (women are just weak, it's a fact
I can see where you think a gal couldn't typically defeat a man, but not all gals out there are the stereo type

I remember in High School this senior body builder gal that would Challenge all the guys to an arm wrestle. This gal was just huge, and I do not mean fat. She had literally had beaten everyone else in class, and people started saying well u cant beat Spenser ( I was the arm wrestling champion in school for Junior high & high school)

Honestly Lemonade, I really did NOT want to arm wrestle her, it was a no win situation. If I win, means nothing as the response "but it ws vs a gal" and she wouldn't have been happy to say the least. If I lost, well then I am losing to a gal. I did finally arm wrestle her, and I wont lie, we were pretty tied strength wise, which was impressive, the only difference was that I had arm wrestling training, which was the deciding factor.

WIth regard to getting punched by a gal. My 1st love was this gal about my height, very big boned, wide chest, and she had a habit of punching me when she got pissed in my chest, arm, or stomach. The stomach shot I remember, as I was out of breath for a few minutes (wasn't prepared for the hit didnt tighten muscles).

The gals in my school were rather dangerous, in JR High school. Carried knives, razor blades. They would put Vaseline on their face so their face wouldn't scar too much if they got sliced. Bite, claw, was like a rabid animal.

BTW, does anyone know if putting Vaseline on their face really prevents the face from scarring or is that just a wives tail, have no clue.

I digress, but for the most part Mr Lemonade I agree with you, a majority of gals just don't have the strength, or body mass to do any real damage. Although this reminds me of a college roommate that admitted when he was plastered that he was raped by a 300 lb. chick that he couldn't get off of him when she pinned him down. Considering he waS a womanizer, is it wrong that I laughed?
 

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I can see where you think a gal couldn't typically defeat a man, but not all gals out there are the stereo type

I remember in High School this senior body builder gal that would Challenge all the guys to an arm wrestle. This gal was just huge, and I do not mean fat. She had literally had beaten everyone else in class, and people started saying well u cant beat Spenser ( I was the arm wrestling champion in school for Junior high & high school)

Honestly Lemonade, I really did NOT want to arm wrestle her, it was a no win situation. If I win, means nothing as the response "but it ws vs a gal" and she wouldn't have been happy to say the least. If I lost, well then I am losing to a gal. I did finally arm wrestle her, and I wont lie, we were pretty tied strength wise, which was impressive, the only difference was that I had arm wrestling training, which was the deciding factor.

WIth regard to getting punched by a gal. My 1st love was this gal about my height, very big boned, wide chest, and she had a habit of punching me when she got pissed in my chest, arm, or stomach. The stomach shot I remember, as I was out of breath for a few minutes (wasn't prepared for the hit didnt tighten muscles).

The gals in my school were rather dangerous, in JR High school. Carried knives, razor blades. They would put Vaseline on their face so their face wouldn't scar too much if they got sliced. Bite, claw, was like a rabid animal.

BTW, does anyone know if putting Vaseline on their face really prevents the face from scarring or is that just a wives tail, have no clue.

I digress, but for the most part Mr Lemonade I agree with you, a majority of gals just don't have the strength, or body mass to do any real damage. Although this reminds me of a college roommate that admitted when he was plastered that he was raped by a 300 lb. chick that he couldn't get off of him when she pinned him down. Considering he waS a womanizer, is it wrong that I laughed?
We largely agree, but, eh, "not all girls" is a useless statement.

I'm a grown man, many decades on this earth, been surrounded by women my entire life, dated all sorts of women, been in very physically competitive jobs, surrounded by police and military where women are employed, etc. My girlfriends have included body builders, fire fighters, a US Marine, US Soldiers, and tri-athletes.

A lot of dudes could whip my rear, and many could do it easily. I have never, in my entire life, felt any women including my girlfriends could physically beat me up, and few could beat me in any physical contest (I will concede some could have beaten me in a distance endurance race or contest like swimming, but only because they have trained many years for that I had not).
 
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