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The Martial Arts In General, And If You Practice One, Tell Me About It.

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I have the Gold belt in Tae Keon Do, which is the lowest. But, in a real street fight, I would give any thug more than he would ever want. I can beat a very tough man if the stakes were high enough, I have before. That is pretty tough talk for a fat old man isn’t it?

My instructors in TKD were all black belts, and I learned what I should from them.
I taught a 14 year old black belt that it ain’t all about doing katas: because I ran him out of the ring, and the men took over from there. Anyway I didn’t run either of them out of the ring.

OK, enough of an intro.

If the art that you are practicing cannot be used as an in extremis fighting skill, to take out an attacker, you need to work on that. What I am saying is that you need to be at a level and mindset , that if you have to kill and maim, that you are capable of that.

I have heard a litany of reasons to learn a martial art: it builds character and self confidence , and it does, but we live in a world filled with brutality. A brute is someone that must be dealt with in a brutal manner. My personal way of being brutal is to use sticks, or in my case a walking stick made of aluminum. I made it myself, I could take out a pit bull with it....or I think that I could.

There is a BJJ studio over on 34th street, and I am going over there and see what they charge. If it is too much, I will just teach myself. I did that with wrestling, my brother and I would wrestle up a storm. We had a great big yard to do it in, and we taught each other some hard moves.

Try getting out of a headlock when the guy that you are wrestling is an ox. And you ain’t lived until you have rolled over a dog turd, and it’s all over your shirt.
Jesus God In Heaven! To say that I stunk, just isn’t poignant enough.

Or, get your head rolled over a dang rock and see what that does for you. It delivered a TKO for me, and the match was over, just like that.

OK, let me stop for a while, and I will pick up later.
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I trained 10 years in BJJ + 1 year covid layoff. I am hoping to get back to it when I get my second vaccine dose.
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At one of the college club wrestling teams I coached, BJJ was on after us. Sometimes my wrestlers would stay on to learn a new sport. I would watch to try to learn it.
Even tired guys, that puked in my practice did pretty well. Not knocking BJJ, just don’t think it’s it’s a tough.
You are correct that BJJ isn’t as “tough” as college wrestling, as far as the physical intensity of a typical practice. That being said, most of the high level BJJ practitioners that I know hold other legit grappling arts, like folkstyle/Greco/freestyle wrestling & judo in very high regard.
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Did you compete in tournaments, and is BJJ/ Gracie a great SD school? It sounds great.
I have competed, but it was never my focus. As far as BJJ for self defense; yes, I think it is great. That being said, what a good self defense focused MA to practice for someone really depends on a lot of factors. Most people that want a general skill set would benefit from a beginner MMA program. From there, they may want to spend a bit more time on striking, ground fighting, and/or wrestling if it appeals to them.... What you want to stay away from is anything that doesn’t have live sparring as a significant component of the training.
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I figure that competitions can only improve a fighter, by putting him up against other fighters, who are all at the same level of ability. That might be easier said than done, since schools have different belt systems. I think that the length of time, that they have trained would work though, as a match setting.




That is a very vigorous work out, and it sounds like it’s just what I need. A martial art can be worthless without a strong exercise regimen. I wonder how many men get into the MA realm: thinking that it’s just learning moves and how to KO an attacker. Probably a whole lot of them do, and then quickly drop out, when the hard work starts.
Brazilian Jiujitsu schools have a uniform belt system. Submission grappling (no-gi BJJ) often uses experience to place competitors in divisions. No matter what there can still be a wide range of skills within a division. Smaller tournaments are best for your average hobbyists, while larger ones are better suited for full time competitors.

You are correct that competition is a learning accelerator. There is really no way to simulate that kind of intensity and test one’s skills. I would certainly recommend everyone try it who learns BJJ/grappling.
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I am going to look into the cane defense, no one would look twice at me having a cane and I do have a handicap sticker from when I had my leg surgery.
First of all, if you don’t need a cane, then walking with one will probably negate the benefit of being able to use one for defense, as people may see you as an easy victim. Second of all, if you want to fight with a cane, I would recommend a Filipino Martial Arts school that does full contact stick sparring. Keep in mind, if you are not practicing footwork and resistance on a regular basis, then you may not be too much better that an old lady hitting someone with her purse.
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Generally speaking, martial arts for self defense involves the element of surprise. As in the bad guy not knowing your skill set, then trying to impose their will, and you using your skill set with the combination of timing and technique to survive and escape.

Martial arts for mutual combat or sport is a bit different. Obviously sport has a agreed upon rule set and limitations, with people of somewhat similar skill sets typically being matched up. Combat has a greater element of strategy and tactics, physical attributes, and skill dependency, with a general lack of rules.

Regardless of if one is training for defense, sport, combat, or a combination of the three, unless one has a consistent regiment of training against resisting opponents (close to how it would go in reality), the likelihood of executing what one learns is very low.
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