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But even if the Supreme Court throws this out, this defamation suit should have no issue being heard. To me, we need facts heard in court or lawyers being sanctioned... or both.
if Dominion files a defamation suit... Dominion will have to PROVE the election was legit and open all their files/servers to discovery from the defendant. Wiped servers are not proof...

The reverse is the same if somebody sues Dominion.... They have to PROVE wiped servers cheated....

Without proof... That Dog Just Ain't Gonna Hunt
 

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After the Texas incident, the staffer hearing the SCOTUS screaming in another room, supposed actual 7-2 vote to take case, and this
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In discussing @realDonaldTrump in phone conversation in 8/19, Justice John Roberts stated that he would make sure “the mother f#*ker would never be re-elected.”

Roberts engaged in phone conversations with Justice Stephen Breyer discussing how to work to get Trump voted out.
I am not optimistic.
 

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I take it you actually believe the MSM. Well Trump does not need 6 Mil votes to get elected. He only needs enough votes in a couple of states to get their electors not certified - i.e. Joe's got to get 270 to win, any less and it goes to House.
No sir, you are quite wrong.
I only believe what I see with my own eyes.
I do not believe one thing I read until it is proven to my satisfaction.

Which is why I take everything I read on these threads as a nothingburger.

If it so happens that Trump remains President, I will rejoice.
But I'm not holding my breath, either.

For the record- I do not watch TV at all.
The ONLY time I watched in 2020 was the State of the Union address and the Army/Navy game.
 

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Sidney Powell's lawsuit has hit the docket of the Supreme Court.
BREAKING: SUPREME COURT: The KRAKEN Has Hit SCOTUS DOCKET, Has PROOF Of HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF FAKE BIDEN VOTES, Dominion System GLITCHES, REMOVAL OF TRUMP VOTES

Will the Supremes again let us down, finding some way of slapping down the case before ever hearing its merits?
Will they fail to uphold their role as the final word in how our laws are to be applied?

Or will it finally be heard? Will the case actually make it to arguments?
Even if they eventually decide there is not enough evidence (which there is), even if they don't agree with the claims of damage done... at least they'd allow arguments to be made.

But will they?
OUTRAGEOUS: Supreme Court Is Purposefully Delaying and Slow Walking Sidney Powell Emergency Petitions - State Responses Not Due Till January 14
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...ions-state-responses-not-due-till-january-14/
 

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OUTRAGEOUS: Supreme Court Is Purposefully Delaying and Slow Walking Sidney Powell Emergency Petitions - State Responses Not Due Till January 14
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...ions-state-responses-not-due-till-january-14/
Horrible news...
But what have we come to expect?

When the institutions do not defend it...
When the safeguards do not protect it...
When the firewalls are insufficient...
Who will save the republic?

It's a "damned if you do and damned if you don't" situation, but when does it fall to the authority vested within the executive branch to enforce the laws of this nation and take steps to fix what is clearly broken?
How can doing so look like anything other than a dictatorial takeover?
Damned if you do, damned if you don't...
Is Trump willing to put his life on the line to save the republic? Because that's exactly what it would mean.
I don't think he is...

In such case, it falls on the people to shoulder the burden and right the ship.
Will we?
 

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Is Trump willing to put his life on the line to save the republic? Because that's exactly what it would mean.
I don't think he is...
I don't know about that.

I haven't said it the past 4 years but I realize he has an ego.
To go down alongside Abraham Lincoln?

Tough act to follow.
 

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Of course we will. Just as soon as you tell us how.
It's not a matter of "how".
We all know "how".
The watchful eyes and ears of our unseen overseers are salivating while waiting for us to start discussing "how".

The rub is that, for the most part, we're "good" people. What does it take to make "good" people accept that their only option to save their nation is to do terrible things?
How do you convince a sufficient number of good folks to risk everything and undo their lives for the sake of a cause?
It's easy to convince a victim to do bad things. They already feel like it can't possibly get worse.
But how to you do that to someone who can see good in everything, and has the fortitude to keep pushing each day to improve their situation. What line must be crossed before they are willing to give up their optimistic daily struggle to get by, and march off to meet an enemy that will use all of its power to destroy them and their families?

This is why it's so important for the left to undermine the ideals of family and objective good. Once you can strip those things away from being important, you can get them to focus on any enemy you want, and send them to act against them. They don't feel they are losing anything.
But me?
I have so much to lose. You do too. Our nation's revolutionaries did as well. Yet they found the courage to risk it all.
I can talk a big game, and spout all the reasons in the world for why it should be done... but can I leave my 8 year old boy to grow up without a father for the sake of a cause, however righteous, that could be stomped out in a blink?
It would be easy if there was an invasion of redcoats stomping through the countryside and laying waste. But the ones in power learned that lesson a long time ago. You get away with a lot more covertly than you do overtly.

That's why we keep holding out hope, perhaps in vain, for that shining light that breaks through the darkness and delays the need for revolution for a bit longer.
Still... history shows us that it can only be delayed for so long. It's coming eventually. It could be close, or it could be far, but it's coming.

We need numbers. We need a resolved front. We need to start interacting with people again. We need to take control of our states and begin to nullify the actions and illegalities of our federal government.
We need to stave off revolution for as long as possible because it absolutely will tear this country asunder. We will not be the United States of America ever again, once it happens.
Our founders saw a vision of a unified nation. All we can hope for are broken factions that hate each other. Is that still worth it?
It's tough, and I don't have the answer.
 

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It's not a matter of "how".
We all know "how".
The watchful eyes and ears of our unseen overseers are salivating while waiting for us to start discussing "how".

The rub is that, for the most part, we're "good" people. What does it take to make "good" people accept that their only option to save their nation is to do terrible things?
How do you convince a sufficient number of good folks to risk everything and undo their lives for the sake of a cause?
It's easy to convince a victim to do bad things. They already feel like it can't possibly get worse.
But how to you do that to someone who can see good in everything, and has the fortitude to keep pushing each day to improve their situation. What line must be crossed before they are willing to give up their optimistic daily struggle to get by, and march off to meet an enemy that will use all of its power to destroy them and their families?

This is why it's so important for the left to undermine the ideals of family and objective good. Once you can strip those things away from being important, you can get them to focus on any enemy you want, and send them to act against them. They don't feel they are losing anything.
But me?
I have so much to lose. You do too. Our nation's revolutionaries did as well. Yet they found the courage to risk it all.
I can talk a big game, and spout all the reasons in the world for why it should be done... but can I leave my 8 year old boy to grow up without a father for the sake of a cause, however righteous, that could be stomped out in a blink?
It would be easy if there was an invasion of redcoats stomping through the countryside and laying waste. But the ones in power learned that lesson a long time ago. You get away with a lot more covertly than you do overtly.

That's why we keep holding out hope, perhaps in vain, for that shining light that breaks through the darkness and delays the need for revolution for a bit longer.
Still... history shows us that it can only be delayed for so long. It's coming eventually. It could be close, or it could be far, but it's coming.

We need numbers. We need a resolved front. We need to start interacting with people again. We need to take control of our states and begin to nullify the actions and illegalities of our federal government.
We need to stave off revolution for as long as possible because it absolutely will tear this country asunder. We will not be the United States of America ever again, once it happens.
Our founders saw a vision of a unified nation. All we can hope for are broken factions that hate each other. Is that still worth it?
It's tough, and I don't have the answer.
You missed my point.
I agree fully with your post. And when it comes down to THAT yes, we know what to do. But. Until it does, exactly what are you proposing that we do?
Fire the 1st shot?? At who or what??
Our fight is with a bloated deep state government that is becoming more socialist by the minute.
There are no 'redcoats' out there.
So I ask again.
So until they (they who?) storm up our hill - exactly what do you suggest we do to shoulder the burden, right the ship, protect our country, and our Constitution?

We need to take control of our states and begin to nullify the actions and illegalities of our federal government.
Agree. What suggestions do you have towards accomplishing this?
 

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SCOTUS should be screwus. They have no intention of protecting voter Integrety. The envolpoes were passed out long ago. Ee if and end up like Scalia.
 

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You missed my point.
I agree fully with your post. And when it comes down to THAT yes, we know what to do. But. Until it does, exactly what are you proposing that we do?
Fire the 1st shot?? At who or what??
Our fight is with a bloated deep state government that is becoming more socialist by the minute.
There are no 'redcoats' out there.
So I ask again.
So until they (they who?) storm up our hill - exactly what do you suggest we do to shoulder the burden, right the ship, protect our country, and our Constitution?

Agree. What suggestions do you have towards accomplishing this?
Exactly. Very well put.
My point as well. All the talk about armed revolution that has been hinted at leads me to ask, revolution against who?
The government? That would end badly for anyone foolish enough to try it.
 

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Exactly. Very well put.
My point as well. All the talk about armed revolution that has been hinted at leads me to ask, revolution against who?
The government? That would end badly for anyone foolish enough to try it.
Perhaps.

There has to be something, though.
Any ideas?
While we're still allowed to talk about it, I mean.

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Perhaps.

There has to be something, though.
Any ideas?
While we're still allowed to talk about it, I mean.

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I've said it before, either in this thread or one of the others, the colonists had arms equivalent to the Red Coats, even cannon.
Today, what it would be would be poorly armed, poorly trained and led, light weapons infantry against tanks, field artillery, air assets and REAL infantry.

There is zero chance of any armed uprising against the US government being successful.
 

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I've said it before, either in this thread or one of the others, the colonists had arms equivalent to the Red Coats, even cannon.
Today, what it would be would be poorly armed, poorly trained and led, light weapons infantry against tanks, field artillery, air assets and REAL infantry.

There is zero chance of any armed uprising against the US government being successful.
I agree with you 100%. But it seems like our conversation has gone a little sideways. I'm not talking about an armed uprising against the US. If Trump does anything - we would be on the side of the military. Right?

That's why I keep asking the same question: Who/what is it that we can rise up against and how do we do it effectively?
 

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That's all fine and good but it takes more than people with their hair on fire to actually change this. It's good to keep each other inspired but that makes us little more than Couch Patriots. And if the battle we fight is against big media, Facebook,Twitter, and armies of Keyboard Commandos; if our only arena is online - then we're f***** and that's why I keep asking, and will keep asking, what more can we do, what efforts can we make, against whom and how.
 

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and that's why I keep asking, and will keep asking, what more can we do, what efforts can we make, against whom and how.
I'm not sure you are going to get people to admit on line what you are looking for.

Have folks PM you and you can exchange information.
 
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You missed my point.
I agree fully with your post. And when it comes down to THAT yes, we know what to do. But. Until it does, exactly what are you proposing that we do?
Fire the 1st shot?? At who or what??
Our fight is with a bloated deep state government that is becoming more socialist by the minute.
There are no 'redcoats' out there.
So I ask again.
So until they (they who?) storm up our hill - exactly what do you suggest we do to shoulder the burden, right the ship, protect our country, and our Constitution?

Agree. What suggestions do you have towards accomplishing this?
I didn't miss your point. I danced around the obvious answer.
If you'd like a clear response, I'll first provide a preface for the overseers...
"THE FOLLOWING IS NOT A CALL TO VIOLENCE AGAINST ANYONE AT ALL. IT IS MERELY PROVIDED AS A THOUGHT EXERCISE, WHICH IS MORE THAN PROTECTED UNDER THE 1ST AMENDMENT."
With that out of the way, the answer to your question is simple.

"Put a bullet into the forehead of every federal government bureaucrat, elected or not, and display their naked corpses upon the steps of every federal building across the country."

There, clear and concise.
The effect would be immediate and long lasting. No party spared, no special treatment, no favorites. Without the puppets to control, the puppet masters would have to start from square one with zero support.
Put out a warning for all of them to resign by XX:XXpm on XX day of XXXX month in XXXX year. After that, they become marked for death as martyrs for their government.
It's horribly violent. It's beyond cold-hearted. It would most assuredly mean hundreds of thousands of good people are sacrificed in the slaughter. It would certainly earn the actors a place in Hell, and a death sentence to send them there.
But it would fix the problem.

Next, a temporary committee is convened to order a new election. This election will be by secret paper ballot only, conducted and counted by the military acting under their own direction until a Commander in Chief is established.
All elected positions will be filled by this election just as they were at the beginning of this nation. A president and vice president, 435 house seats and 1/3 of senate seats.
At the closing of the election, once all totals have been verified by the military, the committee is disbanded and never allowed into any position of political power as long as they live, swearing by oath that they should be put to death if ever involved again.
Any that refuse to relinquish are shot on the spot.

A new day dawns on a country that will never again forget the meaning of these words in the Declaration of Independence:
"That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

As a side note: Never put me in charge of cleaning up a bad situation. I don't play favorites.
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I'm not sure you are going to get people to admit on line what you are looking for.

Have folks PM you and you can exchange information.
Miscommunication here, my bad!
I'm not asking about anything illegal.
I'm asking about above board actions that can be taken... like not following unconstitutional laws, etc, on a large scale; something that others might be inspired to do also.
For now though, I'll just follow Trump's lead. :)
 

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Miscommunication here, my bad!
I'm not asking about anything illegal.
I'm asking about above board actions that can be taken... like not following unconstitutional laws, etc, on a large scale; something that others might be inspired to do also.
For now though, I'll just follow Trump's lead. :)
If you're looking for "above board" actions, run for an office. Run for Sheriff. Show up to jury duty and nullify stupid laws. Encourage young folks to get into politics, become lawyers and judges, to fix what is wrong with this country.
There is no quick "above board" approach. You have to use the system to beat the system, and it's heavily protected.
If you're a long-game kinda person, there are lots of options, but you'll likely never seen the payoff.
 
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