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The Guerrilla's Guide To The Baofeng Radio (book)

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I've only read the first two chapters (just got the book today) but I already know it's going to be a great guide to using a Baofeng and emergency communications in general. It'll probably be required reading for our CH3 group.

It has just about everything a non-radio noob needs to know and still has a lot to offer old radio geeks.

...description from the amazon page:
The Guerrilla's Guide To The Baofeng Radio is a handbook for those finding themselves in an austere environment, an underground resistance, or going into harm's way with one of the most common pieces of communications equipment in the world. Going far beyond simple programming or what's written from the Amateur Radio perspective, this manual goes in-depth on how to communicate, creating a communications plan, improvised wire antennas, digital operations and encryption in an easy to follow, step-by-step format based on combat proven methods. Whether you've just invested in a few of the inexpensive radios for an uncertain future or find yourself in rough corners of the world, this manual covers how to create communications where there otherwise would be none.

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The UV-5R is ubiquitous in the prepper world. Having just one should remind you of the old adage, "Having two is one, having one is none." The manual can be found online. IIRC, that model has been discontinued but I'm sure there's still plenty in stock all around you can still buy them new.
Does it have any value being only one radio for a SHTF scenario or would I need to have more of them? I dont even know fully how it works until I find the manual again. thank you
Having one radio is better than having no radio. ...but, your betting that one radio will survive through whatever disaster you're going to face. You're also betting that everyone you might need to talk to already has a radio.

We're living in the glory days of good radios that will program outside the ham bands and cost less than $25. Most folks don't realize what a sweetheart situation we're in right now. Sadly, these days won't last forever. The FBI, FCC, FTC and the ARRL all want cheap chinies radios to go away.

There are plenty of UV-5R's still available in the $20 range and there are plenty of similar radios for <$30. ...If I need a pack of socks from amazon, I don't checkout without picking up another UV-5R or UV-9S or some radio doodads I'll need down the road. ...the same way none of us leave walmart without a couple extra cans of beef stew

Edit: Here's a UV-5R manual that's been translated from chinglish to English

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... The FBI, FCC, FTC and the ARRL all want cheap chinies radios to go away...
Technically, they're already illegal for sale and use in the US. It's just they're not clamping down on it.
The UV-5R is ubiquitous in the prepper world. Having just one should remind you of the old adage, "Having two is one, having one is none." The manual can be found online. IIRC, that model has been discontinued but I'm sure there's still plenty in stock all around you can still buy them new.
thanks very much for your thoughts. do you think this model i have is any good to use as a basis for buying more or?
Having one radio is better than having no radio. ...but, your betting that one radio will survive through whatever disaster you're going to face. You're also betting that everyone you might need to talk to already has a radio.

We're living in the glory days of good radios that will program outside the ham bands and cost less than $25. Most folks don't realize what a sweetheart situation we're in right now. Sadly, these days won't last forever. The FBI, FCC, FTC and the ARRL all want cheap chinies radios to go away.

There are plenty of UV-5R's still available in the $20 range and there are plenty of similar radios for <$30. ...If I need a pack of socks from amazon, I don't checkout without picking up another UV-5R or UV-9S or some radio doodads I'll need down the road. ...the same way none of us leave walmart without a couple extra cans of beef stew

Edit: Here's a UV-5R manual that's been translated from chinglish to English
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hey guys, this is pretty confusing with all the models available on Amazon. Keep in mind I have one radio already of the older design UV5R.
these are in my cart now. what is best and what will work with the one I already have please?

Baofeng UV-5R 8 Watt Ham Two Way Radio Upgrade Version (144-148/420-450Mhz), Dual Band Walkie Talkie 1800mAh Li-ion Battery, Opens in a new tab
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BaoFeng Radio (Upgraded from BaoFeng UV-5R) 8Watt Ham Radio Handheld with Extra 1800mAh Battery and 771 Long Antenna Dual Band Walkie Talkies Two Way Radio Includes Full Kit, Opens in a new tab
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For simplicity's sake, I'd stick with the UV-5R. Once you start mixing and matching models, you'll find out that, while they do work as radios, the specs and features will get lost in the shuffle. "This radio can do this, but this one can't."

Either that, or just buy two or three new models, and keep your existing unit as a back-up in a faraday cage.
the faraday cage business is presumably to avoid damage from a Electronic pulse attack? Is that the right term for that?
EMP, yes.
Strongly considering this one for the 2m compatability:

Technically, they're already illegal for sale and use in the US. It's just they're not clamping down on it.
Show me where they're illegal for sale in the US. The FCC tried and failed to restrict their import in 2018 and that led to a firestorm of internet hysterics that's still floating around but they aren't, and never were, illegal for sale in the US.

what is best and what will work with the one I already have
Don't panic buy anything ;) You've got plenty of time to do your homework. Youtube has all the info you need to learn what you need for YOUR prepping requirements. ...just take it all with a huge grain of salt

Any of the radio your looking at will work together just fine and all the menus will be close enough to the same that you'll probably never notice the difference. All the ones you show have a Kenwood style mic jack so all the cables and accessories will be interchangeable. (I think all the cheap chinies radios use Kenwood jacks except the waterproof ones)

Look for "dual band". Tri-band is fine but you'll likely never use the 1.25m band so don't pay extra for it. 8w is better than 5w but a good antenna and good operating technique is a heck of a lot more important than the extra 3 watts.

Don't spend a lot of money on package deals with a bunch of doodads you'll never use. Buy barebone radios and pick your own doodads separately.

IMHO if cost is an issue, when the SHTF it's better to have 3 UV-5Rs than one BF-F8.

Most important, any radio is a just a paperweight if you or the folks you want to talk to don't know how to use them
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Show me where they're illegal for sale in the US. The FCC tried and failed to restrict their import in 2018 and that led to a firestorm of internet hysterics that's still floating around but they aren't, and never were, illegal for sale in the US.
I was under the impression that they violated FCC regs due to power output on bands which restrict, but that would only make them illegal to use. AFAIK, sales were not in question.
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Show me where they're illegal for sale in the US. The FCC tried and failed to restrict their import in 2018 and that led to a firestorm of internet hysterics that's still floating around but they aren't, and never were, illegal for sale in the US.


Don't panic buy anything ;) You've got plenty on time to do your homework. Youtube has all the info you need to learn what you need for YOUR prepping requirements. ...just take it all with a huge grain of salt

Any of the radio your looking at will work together just fine and all the menus will be close enough to the same that you'll probably never notice the difference. All the ones you show have a Kenwood style mic jack so all the cables and accessories will be interchangeable. (I think all the cheap chinies radios use Kenwood jacks except the waterproof ones)

Look for "dual band". Tri-band is fine but you'll likely never use the 1.25m band so don't pay extra for it. 8w is better than 5w but a good antenna and good operating technique is a heck of a lot more important than the extra 3 watts.

Don't spend a lot of money on package deals with a bunch of doodads you'll never use. Buy barebone radios and pick your own doodads separately.

IMHO if cost is an issue, when the SHTF it's better to have 3 UV-5Rs than one BF-F8.

Most important, any radio is a just a paperweight if you or the folks you want to talk to don't know how to use them
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I was under the impression that they violated FCC regs due to power output on bands which restrict, but that would only make them illegal to use. AFAIK, sales were not in question.
Correct. The comment was about sales being illegal. It's illegal to operate any radio outside the ham bands if it's only certified for ham bands. The reason the FCC doesn't like them (and we do) is they have the ability to operate outside the ham bands. There are (at least) three reasons they can't legally be operated on FRS: tx power is too high, antennas are removable and they're not certified for FRS freqs.

Baofeng got around the FCC and FTC problems by shipping the radios "locked" to the ham bands. ...but it takes about 3 seconds to unlock them.

The FBI doesn't like them because they're the favorite radio of preppers, militias and antifa (150 antifa shitheads didn't coordinate their assault on the Atlanta training center without using baofengs. Baofengs also played a major part in the January 6th. "insurrection")


Strongly considering this one for the 2m compatability:
As far as I know all baofengs have 2m. I've got UV-S9 Pro's and UV-S9 Plus. They're different somehow but I don't remember what it is. I got them because they can charge straight off of USB or in the charge stand.
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As far as I know all baofengs have 2m. I've got UV-S9 Pro's and UV-S9 Plus. They're different somehow but I don't remember what it is. I got them because they can charge straight off of USB or in the charge stand.
My bad. I was thinking the 220 range and confused it with 2m band.
Looks like I still need to study before taking my test. :ROFLMAO:
Show me where they're illegal for sale in the US. The FCC tried and failed to restrict their import in 2018 and that led to a firestorm of internet hysterics that's still floating around but they aren't, and never were, illegal for sale in the US.....
OK, let's argue semantics.

Show me where they're legal to USE in the US.

But since you asked;

OK, let's argue semantics.
Semantics?!?!? There's a HUGE difference between "illegal to sell" and "use illegally". It's not illegal to sell a gun. It is illegal to buy one and use it to rob a liquor store.

Show me where they're legal to USE in the US.
Your grasping at weak straws BPH. If something isn't against some law it's not illegal.
But since you asked, it's right here on the back of the radio. (or in Title 47 CFR if the radio doesn't have an FCC ID#)
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Nice try BPH, you're hoping nobody will read the link and somehow it says something that proves me wrong. But it says exactly what I've been saying this whole thread.

You keep trying to nitpick everything I say but you're always wrong. If you just wait and skulk long enough, I'll get some little fact wrong and you can have a field day. Until then just leave me the hell alone.
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Try reading it yourself.

FRS-only units transmit at lower power levels and have antennas that are integrated with the unit;


Q1: Does the UV-5R have a detachable antenna?

Q2: Do FRS radios allow detachable antennas?

Q3: What is the maximum wattage allowed on the FRS band?

Q4: What is the minimum wattage the UV-5R is capable of?
Try reading it yourself.
Try reading what I wrote before you put your foot any deeper in your mouth.

There are (at least) three reasons they can't legally be operated on FRS: tx power is too high, antennas are removable and they're not certified for FRS freqs.
Q1: Does the UV-5R have a detachable antenna?
Q2: Do FRS radios allow detachable antennas?
Q3: What is the maximum wattage allowed on the FRS band?
Q4: What is the minimum wattage the UV-5R is capable of?
Like I said
...it says exactly what I've been saying this whole thread.
You read one thing and your brain twists it around into something completely different. You can't pull shit like that on a newsgroup when the truth is just a few posts up the page.

Now go back to your little fantasy world and try to find something I said that you can try to twist into the exact opposite.
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