While most of the pistols choices talked about are solid pistols, the High Point's are not, as is the carbine. High Point and the word quality should not be used in the same sentence. And I say that from years of experience and part of that experience not only in using them, but selling and buying them and seeing the problems that come from incredibly cheap build standards. Anybody staking their lives on them, deciding to go so cheap in firearms choices instead of taking a few less trips to Mcdonalds and save for better firearms, obviously puts a low value on their and their families lives. A person can still find S&W M&P15 Sports for around $600 and they are a solid AR for money in my experience though lacking some of the standard AR aspects.

