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I would personally not recommend a shotgun as a primary only because of its limited range. I've seen guys putting a laser, bayonette, a scope and slugs won't change that limited range and accuracy. If you get into a firefight with some guy who has a rifle he can hit you from way farther and even a rifled barrel and slugs won't match the accuracy of a rifle even using plain iron sights agianst an of these tactical shotguns all over you tube. A shotgun in my opinion IS THE ULTIMATE close quarters weapon but you don't want to be close. I would get a SKS or AK if on a budget they have more moving parts but still very reliable. I have an 8rd Mossberg Maverick 88 (with all kinds accessories) to make it as usable to anyone to everyone in my family as I can, and I love this thing. For home defense Its my go to but if I had to choose one and run I would take the AR because it can reach out and touch someone from a safe distance. If we get and injured and our wounds get infected during a SHTF senario your SOL.I make alot more points my new youtube vids (I do youtube urban prepping under the radar on youtube) and show how to have a pretty decent way to make a good shotgun vest, tell me what you think

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I agree that the shotgun is for close quarters. No question that a rifle would have a distant advantage. Therefore, I suggest a shotgun and and an AR :)

Currently, I have a Remington 870 with an extended tube. Saving for a Colt AR!!!!!!!!!
 

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I have an old Mossberg 550, when i was a kid i loaded a shotshell that i took out the lead shot so i could fire off for the 4th. It just went "Fooof", so i loaded a second good shell and fired it off. Only prob was the wad from the first was still in the barrel. BANG!! It split the barrel at exactly 18 inches. So i hacksawed it off and now its my "tatical" shotgun. ;-)
 

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I have always thought when I get some extra money to invest in a shot gun for my wife, me personal I will stick with my glock, way to good of a shot to use anything else...
 
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I added some Trijican HD's to my Glock, they have that eerie green radioactive glow that really shows up in the dark. My hallway dictates a left-handed shot, which is easier with a pistol than a long gun.
 

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I have a 12 Gauge Mossberg 500 I use for home defense, but I agree I would not think of the 12 g. as a primary weapon. For that a rifle is a must. Ideally one ought to have both but if you can't the rifle takes predominance.
 

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My Siaga 12 does very well. I had a very nice opportunity to use mine in a shoot house a while back. It preformed very well in the multi roomed house. It does have a decent amount of muzzle flash. (event was held at night w/ tac light to simulate home defense scenario) only disadvantage is when I run out of magazines and drums, it's hard to throw a shell in the chamber and slide it home. Much easier in a pump action.
 

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I still see it that for defense against humans, if your good enough with a carbine or rifle and it's manueverable indoors and can hit at combat range outside, there's little need for a shotgun. You can get faster followups, higher capacity, longer range and more precision at distance, lower recoil, and carry more ammo. A shotgun hits harder up close that's no doubt, and it's a more pc one shot stop too at close range, but after that it looses appeal to me. I liked my last one, an 11-87, but really just didn't need it much when it came down to it. Like all my shotguns, I like a stock and even with 18 inch barrels there still pretty long. At home first and foremost I grab a pistol. It's the most maneuverable and concealable which I need at times to find out what the problem is before putting holes into things. If I feel the need to grab a long gun, there's a good reason and that reason would make me grab a carbine, not a shotgun.
 

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I still see it that for defense against humans, if your good enough with a carbine or rifle and it's manueverable indoors and can hit at combat range outside, there's little need for a shotgun. You can get faster followups, higher capacity, longer range and more precision at distance, lower recoil, and carry more ammo. A shotgun hits harder up close that's no doubt, and it's a more pc one shot stop too at close range, but after that it looses appeal to me. I liked my last one, an 11-87, but really just didn't need it much when it came down to it. Like all my shotguns, I like a stock and even with 18 inch barrels there still pretty long. At home first and foremost I grab a pistol. It's the most maneuverable and concealable which I need at times to find out what the problem is before putting holes into things. If I feel the need to grab a long gun, there's a good reason and that reason would make me grab a carbine, not a shotgun.
The only reason I can see for a shotgun in the dark is the effect it will have on someone else when they hear a round being chambered. That's one scary sound if it's not you.
 

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I've a Mossberg 500 Slugster. No problem hitting gallon jugs at 100yds. Maglite flashlight mounted under the barrel. Moving targets at night can't think of anything other then OO buck to do the trick.
 

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My Mossberg is my #2 go to gun in the event of "uninvited" guests. It even hangs in it's own place of honor in my closet. Cut down to 18 1/8" loaded with 5 +1 3 inch 00 buckshot.
 

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Its not my first choice but it can be brutally devastating inside about 25 yards! One thing I did discover with some experimenting on a military gun range is that reduced recoil loads generally pattern tighter and penetrate deeper despite lower muzzle velocities. The new Federal 00-Buck loads with the flight control wads make a significant difference in how tight the patterns will stay as well.
 

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Its not my first choice but it can be brutally devastating inside about 25 yards! One thing I did discover with some experimenting on a military gun range is that reduced recoil loads generally pattern tighter and penetrate deeper despite lower muzzle velocities. The new Federal 00-Buck loads with the flight control wads make a significant difference in how tight the patterns will stay as well.
A 12ga. loaded with 00 buck would not be my first choice for home defense if we had kids or other people living with us. I did quite a bit of time with mine on a pattern board and also a 24" x 24" piece of 5/8" sheetrock. Talk about some collateral damage...but that is what I have homeowners insurance for.
 

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The only reason I can see for a shotgun in the dark is the effect it will have on someone else when they hear a round being chambered. That's one scary sound if it's not you.
The sound of the slide being pulled back and released of a semi automatic pistol is pretty distinct too. So is the BCG of an AR15. And yelling as you do it if all this is your kind of thing, " I give you one second to get out of my house dirtbag or I'll be spreading your guts across the wall."

To that effect anyways. I prefer to not let them know where I'm at or give them warning.
 

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I agree that the shotgun is for close quarters. No question that a rifle would have a distant advantage. Therefore, I suggest a shotgun and and an AR :)

Currently, I have a Remington 870 with an extended tube. Saving for a Colt AR!!!!!!!!!
If your saving for an Ar you better move soon.
 

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Proof....on this thread.....
There still is not 'one gun' that does it all.....:)

Nor will there ever be 'one' that
we will all agree on.
 
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I use a 12 gauge Remington 870 pump for home defense. I keep it loaded with Hornady TAP FPD 2 3/4" buckshot.

As to why, well, I will just leave this little video here for you to look at when you want to visually witness and understand 12 gauge terminal ballistics:

Terminal Ballistics - Part 2 | Down Range TV

ETA: I live out in the countryside, so overpenetration is not a consideration. Obviously, your situation may be different from mine, and you should adjust your weapon of choice accordingly.
 

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I prefer the #4 buck shot. In the 3 inch it's 41 22 caliber pellets per shot. If you can stand the 3.5 inch that's 54 22 caliber pellets per shot. Makes me laugh at the "high" capacity mag bans. Two shots 3.5 inch #4 is like dumping a beta mag. 5-6 rounds in a Versa Max really puts an AR to shame at close range.
 
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