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I heard on the radio earlier here in Montana. There is a college student that cannot pass the tests to graduate and get her degree. So, she decided to sue the state because she has addhd or whatever it is. Listen, the only ones that claim to have adhd or add are probably under 30. It is some bullshit excuse because people are too ****in lazy to actually pay attention!! I hear it ALL the time.. I am as hyper as they come and am always on the move but don't use some trumped up "disease" as an excuse.. Just because you payed your tuition doesn't mean you are guaranteed to pass!! Pay attention and do the ****ing work!!! Is there anyone on here over 30 that has add or adhd?
 

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As one who teaches at a state college I can't wait to see how this turns out - when I flunk someone they are fired because they are only in my class because a police dept has hired them. Its rough - I have one right now with a great attitude and no apptitude. I feel for the guy but if you can't read or type you can't make it as a police officer. We are only in school 4 hrs a day so he's got time to remedy the issue - I hope he does - he's a good guy and would make a good cop. I can't imagine one of my students filing a law suit over getting flunked out.
 

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i grew up before ADHA was accepted as a "disease." I think I had it, but my parents had a remedy... a good slap to the back of the head and the phrase, "pay attention." It worked for me.
EXACTLY!!! Now everyone that wants to daydream and not pat attention says they have add or adhd and uses it as an excuse!!! If they would just ****in PAY ATTENTION! Stop using excuses!!
 

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Yes, I also believe its a lot of coddling and babying the kids that have solidified this "disease".
We had energy, after getting up early for school, feeding the horses, gatherig eggs, going to school, riding grandpa's threewheeler, feeding the other animals, unloading a truck full of feed sacks or hay, doing other chores, playing tag, playing hide and seek, building forts, and finding all the trouble a kid could find. We also knew, dead to rights, if we did something wrong, we got our ass whooped. Not often, but enough, to know right from wrong.
 

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For ten years I taught industrial equipment operator certification courses. I had to fail a few people in that time but I had the approved curriculum, written exams and operator evaluations that were given to each student. There was a "minimum" passing grade at each step of the way and if I student failed it was easy to show why and where the failure occurred. I did refuse to certify one operator for sleeping through the class - when I explained to his employer (without certification they can't operate the machinery - they can lose their job) that he demonstrated to me that he didn't have the attention span to operate equipment that could be dangerous. The employer told me that he would be in the afternoon class. I also heard a "rumor" that the union would "kill" me if I refused to certify any of the employees. In the afternoon class he was the most attentive student there. He did pass but he did it by meeting the standards and not by threatening me.
 
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It's a cop-out started in early schools to punish anyone who is smarter than average. Even in the 70s, my brother was "diagnosed' and they wanted to medicate him. I was just reflecting on that today. If I were to put my son in a public school, one week in they'd be pushing meds on him. He has no problem focusing if the material is challenging. I'm the same way. The way I see it, it's just a way to streamline the schooling process. Sedate them til they're dumbed down to average.
 

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Serious, true story. One of the guys I knew from 6th grade until graduation was named Andy. Andy was always in the "slow class", where he was graded on participataion and attendance. We were talking right before graduation, I was scared, becouse I had taken extra classes to graduate a year early, and If I failed my trig class, I wouldn't graduate with the class. He just laughed, and told me that Nowhere on his highschool records did it say anything about the classes, just that he had passed. And graduated.
Smartest guy in the slow class.
 

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I have always had a learning problem, . . . but of the good kind.

I kinda sorta almost listened while I was drawing, doodling, or otherwise not paying attention, . . . and learned enough that way to be a B student all through high school, Navy schools, and college.

I virtually never read an assignment, . . . just took some half baked notes, . . . looked for the important stuff.

Probably would be on 3 or 4 different meds if I was in school now.

May God bless,
Dwight
 

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Luckily I am not afflicted with any of




Look! a squirrel!


(I was going to say a red-head but thought it might be too much):(
 
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When I was in school, I struggled till we moved to Florida where someone decided to give me a battery of tests. They said I had dyslexia (at that point in history dyslexia was a relatively new thing). Ever since then I was put in a special learning disability class that TAUGHT ME HOW TO LIVE WITH IT. The class was one hour everyday. Best thing that ever happened to me. I still had to pass all my classes and do the same work and take the same tests. The ESE teachers would tell us over and over .. you can do this just concentrate and slow down. And stop making excuses.

They dont do that anymore, they lower the standards now and tell the kids that their failure is not their fault. BS!

This student needs to get over it because an employer will not tolerate failure due to your perceived learning disability. If you do something wrong because you cant pay attention to detail or cant concentrate on the task at hand.... you will not be employed long.
 

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Hey, what's wrong with brunettes? ;)
Nothing that I know of.... one of the "blondest" women I ever knew was a brunette. (the redhead thing is just a fantasy - it could never really become reality - but it is MY fantasy. ;)

In my single days I dated more brunettes than blondes or redheads. I don't think any of the "attributes" associated with hair color are real. The most cerebral woman I ever dated was a redhead and the most... um... amorous was a brunette. My wife is a beautiful silver haired angel with strawberry highlights and an hour glass figure.
 
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I often get hired by really big companies to come in and teach part of a 2-3 month curriculum for the recent college grads they hired (software development). I always HATE those classes. The guys in the class are certainly motivated since their new jobs depend on how well they do. They are also usually pretty smart. But they have NO real world experience. They have nothing to gauge what parts of my talk are important vs what is corporate or industry B.S. (Note: About 30% of what I talk about is CRITICALLY important to their future success; the other 70% is crap.) To make matters worse, my classes are usually about 9 hours long per day, with about 6 hours of that being lecture.

On the other hand I cannot, in good conscience, just pass them along. So, my usual plan is to spend the first day introducing myself and going through the corporate B.S. Then I usually ask the whole group out "for a social beer" on my tab - I limit it to around $200 out of my personal pocket. During that time, I give them the "code words" they need to pay attention to in order to get through my part. Following that, I act like a cast iron prick every day in class following, and I try to keep in mind that my goal to winnow out at least 30% of them.

This whole effort usually puts me at odds with the HR department (that hired me and is paying my bill) since their goal is to get the whole group through with flying colors. But there are a good portion of the grads from college that are not cut out to be in the IT world. It is really a shitty system, but it is what we have...
 
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