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Standardizing weapons yes but not an excuse to limit your self either.
Having weapon platforms that use the same ammo is important .
One of the many reason We own AR's and AK's
 

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Have weapons that use the same ammo as the military/cops.
hell yeah exactly why I choose the AR15, Glock 17 combo. after the ammo scare I saw 7.62 everywhere which means that is not what people are stockpiling so it will no be around or in very limited quantities later, plus the police use 5.56 and 9mm. in addition the economic collapses in the past have had a surplus of military ammo in their markets this means more 5.56 and 9mm. right on brother, thats the way to go
 

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Standardizing weapons yes but not an excuse to limit your self either.
Having weapon platforms that use the same ammo is important .
One of the many reason We own AR's and AK's
I like the SKS and AR combo. :-D I like to standardize 80% of my ammo on .223, .22lr, 7.62x39, and .308. (pretty much in that order)

I do stock away 50-100 rounds of almost every semi-standard rifle/handgun caliber. IE if you can find it at the normal gunstore I have some, even if I don't have the gun. .243, .270, .32, .25, .17, .22mag, .223hornet, .300wsm, .357sig, 10mm, etc, etc etc. Gives me the option of trading to someone who really needs it, or being able to use a gun when someone else runs out.
 

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Standardizing weapons yes but not an excuse to limit your self either.
Having weapon platforms that use the same ammo is important .
One of the many reason We own AR's and AK's
I never implied limited ourselves in anyway i said "standardize or familiarize". I even said in the video to cross train when possible. If your going with an AK stock up on ammo now. During the entire ammo scare I saw 7.62 everywhere which means that is not what people are stockpiling so it will no be around or in very limited quantities later, you cannot trade or barter what other don't have. I know the AK is a popular weapon but it is important to learn from what is going on and what has happened in the past. Plus the police use 5.56 and 9mm. in addition the economic collapses in the past have had a surplus of military ammo in their markets this means more 5.56 and 9mm. finally if you did standardize the platforms that not only used the same ammo but magazines too plus parts are interchangable incase a few break down you can salvage part from 2 broken firearms to make 1 working firearm
 

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When I get a new gun, ammo availability is one of the biggest factors that go into my decision. If it can be found at Walmart (not just what they have in stock at the moment), or is a NATO standard round, then it's good for me.
 

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It's funny no one mentioned .40 as that is reported to be stockpiled over a billion rounds by the government.
 

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Standardizing can be great, but what happens when you can't find your standard ammo? If there's no 9mm on the shelves, for example, nobody in the group has anything to shoot. Those with more diverse collections can pretty much shoot any ammo they find.

Personally, I like the idea of standardizing. My weapons use .22, 12 ga, 5.56mm NATO, 7.62mm NATO, .40 & .45... all pretty common calibers chosen for their availability.
 

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I really haven't bought anything for "standardization." I bought calibers for their intentive purposes.

22LR training, small game
9mm solid high capacity hand gun, affordable
38/357 easy to reload, capable of medium game, yes I have a revolver/lever combo and they are my pack weapons on horseback (+22)
AR-15's for inside 300 yards 5.56 nato
M1A/M14 I like what I'm learning about it in the 300/600 yard range
338 Lapua for an 800 + shot needed
12 Gauge for close defense and birds
I also have hierloom 32-20, 45 ACP, 44-40s but don't think any but the 45 will ever be used.
 

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It's funny no one mentioned .40 as that is reported to be stockpiled over a billion rounds by the government.
While I was never a big fan of the 40 it would not hurt to have a weapon or two around that fires it . Because it fell from favor there are rounds for it even now, when others are sold out.
 

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While I was never a big fan of the 40 it would not hurt to have a weapon or two around that fires it . Because it fell from favor there are rounds for it even now, when others are sold out.
Yep, when I heard about the big government purchase of .40 S&W I went out and got a Glock 22. The .40 S&W ain't as good as the .45 ACP but much better than the .9mm.
 

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Difference in a 40 and a 9mm in first round kill is not even worth looking at . More about shot placement and follow up shot than caliber. That was another reason the 40 hype was short lived.
People even survive a shot from the 45 just they most often don't do much after they are hit.
 

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Have weapons that use the same ammo as the military/cops.
Why? Do you honestly believe they would share their ammo with you?
Serious question, I was not trying to belittle or make fun of you.
Why?
 

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Why? Do you honestly believe they would share their ammo with you?
Serious question, I was not trying to belittle or make fun of you.
Why?
I didn't figure on askin'.

I was flippin' through the Glock manual and found a chart of all the Glocks All the full size Glocks have about the same outside dimensions. The weights fully loaded range from about 32 to 38 oz (9mm lightest, .45ACP heaviest). Capacity ranges from 17 for 9mm to 13 for .45ACP. For the 9mm, .40 and .45 the muzzle energy is around 500 j. The only calibers that show a significant difference are the 10mm and .357 Sig with 670 and 765 respectively. If I were gonna pick one on performance alone it would probably be the .357 Sig.
 

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Why? Do you honestly believe they would share their ammo with you?
Serious question, I was not trying to belittle or make fun of you.
Why?
If it comes to that I will not be asking them to share.
357 sig is a novelty round
The real 357 125 gr round has for many years in real world proven to have the highest first round kill. It also has the flexibility to shoot all 38 rounds
 

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The "real" .357 is the 158 g/1550 fps round.

All rounds were novelty rounds to start with. I think the .357 Sig has a chance of catching on. Several police departments have already adopted it.
 

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As for the .40, if I (ok, when...) I buy another handgun it will be a Glock 22 in .40. Then for ~100-150 you get the 9mm conversion barrel and you can shoot 9mm in it. This works for all the .40 glocks, just need a new barrel and mags (I already have 9mm mags so no change there.)

As for the .357sig, I wasn't a fan, LOTs of bang/flash, bad recoil. You would need a longer barrel to get the full power out of it. When I tested out the Glock in it I put 1 mag downrange and said no-thank-you. YMMV (and not to mention ammo is not cheap for it.)
 

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I think standardizing is smart depending on your outlook of the future and intentions. If you plan to sit on your BOL and never leave when shtf than it matters more how much ammo you've got. If not and you're bugging out where you'll be best replenishing your ammo in hand whenever you can, commonality and standardization is smart. You should be more likely to obtain some even if it's from the weapon of the guy/girl lying dead at your feet you had to shoot. And if your group has weapons in common you can share the resources.
 
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