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I was watching doomsday peepers the other day and really liked the implementation of spider holes that one individual dug on his property. Does anyone have a link to a GOOD tutorial for digging a spider hole? Also, what are your thoughts on them?
 

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A good shovel and strong back are what's needed

There seems to be a few on you tube when searching "spider holes".
 

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So... is the idea to stock these or just leave them empty and bring what you need? I'm not sure I like the whole laying down for three days thing. I'm curious if there are any horizontal versions... i.e. a small man-made cave in the side of a hill... with a concealed door. A cave seems more liveable and seems more stable. The inside can be supported with beams... and I don't have to worry about someone driving over me. I shudder at the thought...
 
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Caves would be so much better as a more permanent structure, much more livable than a spider hole. I've always thought of spider holes as small caches spread around where if you need to you can go to ground and hide out for a while but a cave seems more like a better long term base solution.
 

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My spider holes wouldn't be for living. They'd be more for a situation where I needed to bug out of my bug out location. I could take off into woods, hop in a spider hole and come back out at dark or when it was safe.

The guy who used them on Doomsday Preppers did just that. He figured if he needed to bug out because he was being over run or something, he'd just get to a spider hole and come back at night to reclaim his BOL.

They wouldn't be stocked for any kind of long term living, but I'd leave an ammo can or something similar with a bit of food and water. And maybe a weapon. (mossberg 500 JIC package?)
 

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Wow... Lucky Jim. It seems the NVA went all out... but then they had the time and manpower, were used to a rougher lifestyle, and were smaller than the average American. I think I would stick with something less elaborate. :)

I'll have to add this to my list of things to research.
 

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ANDERSON SHELTER
Most British homes had one of them in their back garden in WW2 for getting in during air raids, designs varied but they were simply corrugated iron boxes with 4 walls and a roof and were family-sized. They didn't lead underground, you simply went in and shut the door to keep out blast and shrapnel.
This one has a layer of earth on top-



MUM- "Come on everybody, into the Anderson quick!"
DAD- "Yes come on, the sirens are going off!"
MUM- "My mother's getting in with us too, you don't mind do you dear?"
DAD- "Of course not.... er.... but on second thoughts it's going to be a bit cramped in there, i'll go down the communal shelter instead, see you later"
 

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Regarding caves, I get a bad feeling about them because the bad guys might find the entrance and you'd be trapped in there like a rat.
(Just take a look at the Peter O'Toole film "Rogue Male" where he's on the run from the Gestapo and he holes up in a cave)
Also, Gaddafi hid in this culvert, bad call-

 

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I have often thought of buying a shipping container and placing it on the farm into a small hillside and back filling it to blend in with the landscape and conceal with fast growing shrubs/trees and such. That would be the easiest thing to do.
 
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Keep in mind if your underground your dependent on an air shaft or vent...If your found a simple cup of gasoline will ruin your day so your shelter should NEVER be in easy view!

If they want your supplies a cup of bleach and a cup of drain cleaner is better!....Think it out before you go this route!

Its how we cleared bunkers in the gulf....little gas....We didnt even have to light it!....they came running out hands up when they smelled it!
 

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Keep in mind if your underground your dependent on an air shaft or vent...If your found a simple cup of gasoline will ruin your day so your shelter should NEVER be in easy view!!
Yeah, but even if your cave, shelter, bunker and air vents are beautifully concealed it won't fool a bad guys dog which'll soon sniff you out!
Check the survival movie 'The Road' on DVD-



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PS- Also on DVD is this film I mentioned earlier, O'Toole is on the run from the Gestapo and holes up in a cave with one way in, one way out-

 

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Agree with this -- ^^^^.

A hunting dog finds your spider hole with ease. Bad idea.

A drainage ditch would be better. Below ground, but you can move if you have to. In any direction.
 

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Just the thought of going "underground" gives me the creeps! I had a catscan once, and my doctor gave me a tranquilizer before hand and I still got claustrophobic! I could never make it in a submarine! No way am I digging any hole to crawl into.
 

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That is correct. I should have made that clear that it would only be a small amount of back-fill. Just enough to blend it into the hill and sod it/plant it. And for the record, native grasses and evergreens (like cedars) would work best for concealment and don't place them in neat rows. Mother nature doesn't do straight.

I also would not be living in it, more so for storage of re-supplies and the such.

No, that's a lot of work. Shipping containers aren't strong enough to be buried without extensive reinforcement.
 
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