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This is my first direct Post. I see the presence of many former as well as current service members...as I am as well. But many aren't and may wonder about things that are second nature to us....so I thought why not start a thread to learn from those who have. I ask that all respect the fact that your war was not ours and things change.....your truths are not facts...neither is mine...and that it's all in the spirit of giving others a chance. So this is the forum in which folks ask any question that they think appropriate to a vet and get their answers....but it'll be across generations and differing fields of battle....so take them as "from My Fox Hole" and not as direct from God.....I do not mean to imply that a soldier knows better...just wanting my brother and sister veterans to teach what they know.



Love to you all.
 

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if I could as a "vet" anything....

I wouldn't bother, as a sign.of respect, if the vet wants to tell me anything he will in his own time.....
 
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for some reason that pissed me off....sorry pheniox......it just did....forgive me and merry christmas.
at least your honest bro, wasn't said to piss you off, it's just me and vets, the ones I know well, share stories on their own accord, and share information at their own will, and those same vets get very angry when strangers or people that known them for a wile ask them for "war stories"... I hope this clears up my earlier statement bro
 

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hey all is GOOD I'm not fishing for a fight, you asked a question if I could ask a vet anything, and followed it up as there are other ex service people here, so I gave a answer based on that question.
if the question is "what would I like to ask you personally based on any experience you may have" to follow it up, any info you can share, more so on mil spec equipment available to civilians reviews, training hints and tips, (if you have been promoted a few times, I don't know or want to know your rank when you left the service) small group tactics, e&e tips, survival training experience, even things that you wouldn't leave home without (outside firearms and knives), basically sharing all the hints and tips that only experience gives....

those would be what I would look for (and hopefully be shared freely)

I apologize if it seems like I'm attacking you, as if I was to do so I would go the direct path (I can quote examples but none here as everyone is respectful)
 
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If I could ask a vet one thing, I would ask "why"? You all know my story, so I will not go into it here. But I wake every morning and ask myself why I put up with this corporate crap - and I do not even have anybody shooting at me.

So my question is why.
 
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Merry Christmas to you, 1st Special Forces Group (Old SF Guy). I certainly could never had made the SF.
A very admirable first post.

I will answer an unasked question -
The hardest journey of my life was when, later in life, I returned to the Church. I did much searching trying to understand how my God would view my actions as a soldier at the Final Judgement.
 

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Merry Christmas all.... always a tough time for me but God Bless you all.
Thanksgiving and Christmas are always tough for me as well.
Merry Christmas, my Brother.
 

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Someone started this thing that we were not suppose to talk about anything. Good way to hide the truth shut the people that were there up.
This is a new day a new time we have no reason to sit it the corner and shut up.
No chemical weapons in Iraq, bull shit where do you think Syria got them from.
On and on it goes just makes sure the one that know the truth never say a word in public.
Not my rules any more.
Obama orders no more Merry Christmas in the Military
No Christmas card to the Vets in the VA.
Screw that to. I am sending 100 Merry Christmas cards to Obama
 

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I came away unscathed, but I would ask those that were injured or disabled if it was worth it when they look at what the politicians are doing/ have done to our country.
 

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The majority of those I work and play with are vets. Questions arise among us, all the time, usually between those of us why were ground pounder types and those from the navy. The navy folk amaze me, especially the submariners. Talk about some stories. How they managed to man a boomer and maintain their sanity.
 

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I came away unscathed, but I would ask those that were injured or disabled if it was worth it when they look at what the politicians are doing/ have done to our country.
I love my country. I strongly dislike its government.
In 1969 I went half way around the world to fight communism in the name of the American public. Now we have a socialist/marxist/communist as President.
Yes, this disgusts me, but I still love my country.
The ideals of America. The average Joe trying to build a good life for his family. The Constitution and Bill Of Rights. American ingenuity. The charitable thread that runs through big cities and small towns to help those who are less fortunate. The American farmer who helps to feed the world. The can-do spirit. The mountains, beaches, forests and deserts.

You ask if my service, my injuries, were worth it, especially since the politicians lost the war our military was winning. I would do it all over again, even knowing the outcome. I had the honor and privilege to serve with the best men our country had. I was never a hero, but I served with them. And I am grateful to have had the opportunity.
 

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I love my country. I strongly dislike its government.
In 1969 I went half way around the world to fight communism in the name of the American public. Now we have a socialist/marxist/communist as President.
Yes, this disgusts me, but I still love my country.
The ideals of America. The average Joe trying to build a good life for his family. The Constitution and Bill Of Rights. American ingenuity. The charitable thread that runs through big cities and small towns to help those who are less fortunate. The American farmer who helps to feed the world. The can-do spirit. The mountains, beaches, forests and deserts.

You ask if my service, my injuries, were worth it, especially since the politicians lost the war our military was winning. I would do it all over again, even knowing the outcome. I had the honor and privilege to serve with the best men our country had. I was never a hero, but I served with them. And I am grateful to have had the opportunity.
You are a rare man indeed. Thank-you RPD (and the rest of you that have protected, and continue to protect my family).
 

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I'm still active duty. Air Force, but have been on over seven deployments, many with the Army. Been to Africa, Iraq, and Afghanistan. Comm troop, but performed a variety of jobs and missions because when you roll with Army, they treat you as "Soldier First, MOS second" (AF doesn't think that).

Regardless, I don't have that "don't ask me questions" mentality. If you want to ask, ask. I'll answer from my limited experience. I say limited because I am "Chair Force". No matter how many times I snorted sand with Army, respect is respect and I am no Soldier or Marine. I've seen my share of shit and been in a few bad situations, but I have Army friends that I just can't compare to, and I will never try to.

So that said - keep that in mind if you ask me anything. I will NEVER profess to be more than I am. So that is my disclaimer.

Now someone asked why. I will answer that, and my answer will dishearten a great many of you.

I did NOT join for any sense of patriotism or love of country at all. In fact, I have no love of country. I am disgusted with my country. I am saddened by my country. I owe my father's country and my grandfather's country a great deal. I own my today's country absolutely nothing. Today's America is lucky to exist, and I wouldn't be surprised in the least if a country like Cuba someday just walks in and says "We rule you" and our government just says "Ok". Loyalty wise - I swore several things and I am a man of integrity. I said I would defend the Constitution, obey the lawful orders, etc etc. I do those things, and continue to do those things. While there is a lot of debate about what is a lawful order, like the Iraq War, it was lawful in my eyes. The President got Congress to approve. Congress was elected by the people, and I didn't see any mass riots in the streets over election fraud. I didn't see news about the court systems flooded with suits over misrepresentation (I saw it about the war itself, but citizens always protest wars...they need to protest the people they elect to represent them that lawfully vote for those wars). So I will never be a treasonous military member. I will never succumb to any form of torture or manipulation to give up secrets or plans or turn on my unit. I can't be bought or bribed or threatened. I will die doing what I am ordered to do by the officers appointed over me. I swore to do that.

For a job.

I needed a job. I was older than most kids coming in. I found myself at a crossroads with nowhere to go. That's why. I was going to do four years, get a skill, get the GI Bill, and get out. I was going to go to school and get a degree based on the skill I got and move on. I ended up liking it. I stayed in for more, I was good at it. It was fun. Plus they put up with my bullshit. Can't get fired from the military like you can in the civilian world. Yea we put up with far more bullshit and sacrifice a lot more and are in a lot more danger - all for a lot less pay considering. The mere fact that I know I have a job tomorrow is worth it all.

Believe it or not, I don't mind getting shot at as much as I mind having to work in a suit and tie and having to keep my mouth shut when someone is an idiot because if I call them an idiot I can get fired. I'd rather call a Major an idiot and keep my job. :)
 

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You are a rare man indeed. Thank-you RPD (and the rest of you that have protected, and continue to protect my family).
It's guys like you that make this country great, inor.
America has been in tight spots before, but the spririt of the common people have pulled this country through.
We will get past the current government and come out stronger for it.
 

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Not really a question of worth it or not. We did what we had to do. Hind sight is not as clear as some would have you think.
What burns my ass is how we are played in the press and by those like Obama. They know we can do little to combat their lies.
The others are the phony we support the troops but not really.
I am going to speak out right now on one issue.
American soldiers killing women and children. First it can happen , but seldom and very rare. American soldiers do not just for sport kill women and children. TV liberal news BS. Many of the so called embedded news reporters with us Never left the FOB. They sat back and made up most of what they reported.
Truth America soldier took the rules of engagement seriously, they wanted to do what was right.
Many US soldiers lost their life because they were to careful they did not act when they should have. You never hear that for the folks on CNN,MSNBC or the rest.
Soldiers died because Leaders were forced to tone down security to make it look good Politically . Then ******** walks in with a back pack and blows up the dinning facility . Then we have Hillary what does it madder. Oh yes she was the one that claimed to be dodging bullets in an area where none where fire.
Question did you know many more US military have died in Afghanistan under OBAMA then under Bush. How would you know it is never reported.
Be quiet don't talk about play the game BS I aint going there.
I am not ashamed of what any of my troops did nor do I have one thing to be ashamed of.
 

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I spent an hour trying to answer Inor's question before I was saved by having to head over and get the grandmunchkin and her Mom. I guess the reason I first went in wasn't so different than Drackore's, along with the fact I was a young man pissed off at the world and unable to let go of certain things. I was looking for a way to leave a great many things behind before they ate me up from the inside out.

I found 2 things, a family and something I was good at. I also found out I have a problem not volunteering, lol.

I didn't physically come out the same way I went it. It ended way before it should have, but I stayed long enough I swore my oath three different times. I feel it every second of every day, and wouldn't change a thing. Like RPD said, I was honored to know some of the finest the world has to offer and was privileged to be accepted into a community that taught me that none of us are greater than the sum of all of us.
 

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Since, I go to the VFW and the AL, I often meet veterans and we talk. You can't fake being a soldier when you are talking to another. Military men have a language of their own. We speak in acronyms and don't even realize it. Terms like PCS, MOS, CONUS, ETS, BRM, CQ are in our language. When someone asks my job, I don't even think about it but reply 13A, realizing to a civilian that makes no sense. Another says 11B and we know what he is saying. The one question, I always find myself asking is a simple one but it is one that I'm having difficulty with myself... "Would you do it again?". Most of my career, that would have been easy but my last deployment really made that questionable in my mind. I think we all have a point where things change, some of us are just lucky enough to never reach that point.
 

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Would I do it all over again? Thats a Tough one...unlike Drackore I do love my Country....because my country is its Farmers, Firemen, Shopkeepers, , Home-makers, and others. It's a document that says your Government CAN'T do certain things. Even though they try to ignore some rules and Laws....This Document will win out in the end. Remember the oath you took....To defend the Constitution against all enemies Foreign AND DOMESTIC. We do not swear oaths to people...but instead to a belief that no man is greater than I and no simple man can take from me what God has granted. As far as would I do it again? For that document....yes. For the ability to again stand beside brothers and sisters that are the greatest Americans I have ever known....Yes. For the positive example my Kids have grown up with...of selfless service, community, and respect....Yes I would. Drackore I would simply say to you that this country is much bigger than its politicians and much more than just a Capitalist society. How many countries have people risking their lives to just try to get into it for the one shot at being better? If this country isn't yours.....then name me one that is better? I respect your service and I respect your opinion. Sometimes we get lost in the politics and forget to just see the people and the land...Thats the heart of this nation. The good people you won't ever see on TV.
 
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