[AndyFrank]

If all goes bad the remaining 10% that survives will be living in the 1600's. If they are lucky. Is that life worth living??

If only 10% are left? We'll be walking around in big hats and elegant clothes talking about how important our children are and issues with the trade routes?
You skin it back that far and people become higher value again and too happy to be sexualized or dopefied. It'd be a paradise.

 

[AndyFrank]

You can't put a price on countless human life's, and the sanctity of the republic

You actually can, in fact in fine and that's the greater obstacle, because no govt would pay it even if they could. Every life has a labor and supply cost attached to it and you have to have it for every life you intend to keep or you can't keep em.
Since the republic and people are what is under attack, there will be no way people can carry the load and many people will feel it is not worth the trouble, like people finding out they won't have a river of dope (like the homeless seem to all be on? Hows that happen?) Or that now, you have to be able to fight, run and hide to be homeless because the 'ol mental asylum bus is trolling around in the night and the savages are preying and sporting all day. (Yes? Sporting. Like males do when there is nothing else much to do)
The socialists are being denied pain pills and choosing suicide....but that was always going to be what happened to them. Like democrats.
So there will be a high mortality that is unavoidable, that people won't be able to do anything about, except throw their selves into the frenzy trying to keep more than they can.
The sheer numbers of people are mind boggling. There are so many that the number of them that will make it to the rural areas is a disaster.
I do not know the how or when but if a mass event happened, it would create a disaster of peoples.
I have a general set of contingencies that are based on keeping more than myself and the kids, but those are organic structures that require a foundation to begin with or you end up with a chaos of savages. If the weather is right and the money is there, sure I will help by plantation cropping. But I am prepared for the idea that we will be blessed to keep the animals and kids.

 

[AndyFrank]

Jesus said "Sell a cape and buy 2 swords" because he knew they were going to need them.

 

[AndyFrank]

Yep that's how I grew up. Well pump outside also. Now this is rural WI so temps are well below zero a large part of the winter. Kind of glad that I did. Shooting and canning deer meat and vegetables etc for the root cellar in basement. Wood stove for heat, NO furnace. Made for some mighty cold mornings.

Why I laugh at most people that plan on BO of the big city. They have no idea what's involved with surviving a cold winter with out electricity, let alone food. First winter I bet 90% will be a low number. I can drive around and see virtually nobody is prepared. Easy to see who has a wood pile stocked up and have a chance.

They THINK they are going to roll in like vacation saying "Got some food? Where's the pu**y? Go get me a bag of weed!"
And there aint no food and 10,000 of em will sht the place into typhus fast, as they line the highways playing "tailgate party" and wild wildlife slaughter.
Thats why we hope most of em just croak off and never get here and go fast even if they do.