Shoot to Kill vs Shoot to Wound. Excellent video from FoxNews
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Lone survivors don't have many dissenting opinions voiced during the after action debrief Medic33. But the questions pertaining to how the single roach could have brought others back with them seem to go unanswered under the same circumstances. What would I do is never as instructional as what would I do differently. JMHO. Small but Large difference. Once again JMHO.
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True words but as training and combat have taught me...you do as you have trained. I never, ever, ever aimed at an extremity on the range. I aim center mass, two in the chest, 1 in the head. Having done it in combat I instinctively put about 5 in the chest and at least 1 in the head my first time....I may have pulled the 2nd in my adrenaline filled haste....but the training kicked in none the less. So I say practice what you think you would do often so that when you have to, your AAR sounds more like mine..."well, I may have put a few more rounds in him than I had to, and I pulled one too." Not..."...well I thought I would try for a knee cap shot, but I missed and he shot me first...darn it Saint Peter, I've been a pretty good fella. Can't I come in?"
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It is a good video and the woman is cute, so it is a win/win. The instructor is well versed and what he said is true, and he is using general rules, which is good.
But, like all things there are exceptions. Not all of us are un-skilled or lacking in a "take it to them" attitude, and I am one of those sorts. Pistols are excellent for self-defense, if you are competent with them.
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But, like all things there are exceptions. Not all of us are un-skilled or lacking in a "take it to them" attitude, and I am one of those sorts. Pistols are excellent for self-defense, if you are competent with them.
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Such an awesome film. Left me speechless.
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If you think he has body armor, shoot for the head or groin. Arms and legs will probably not stop the threat.
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always luv the liberals when the cops shoot someone - "Why couldn't they just wound him" - "Don't they have a Taser?" - "They need nets like they use on animals" .... my all time fav "Can't they just let him go until he calms down by himself" .....
@ MisterMills357, I couldn't help myself. It just leapt into my brain as soon as I saw the photo...
"When two tigers fight, one is certain to be maimed, and one to die." - Gichin Funakoshi
My take - No one walks away from a fatal shoot unscathed...
and then just to lighten things up...
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I have no intention of ever killing another person, I will only draw on another person if my life or that of innocents are in dire danger.
Having said that, if I ever point a gun at somebody one of two things will happen:
1) They will back off/run away
2) I will not stop firing until the threat is neutralized... it was their choice to attack me and die.
If somebody forces me to draw on them, then their life is forfeit. Period.
Having said that, if I ever point a gun at somebody one of two things will happen:
1) They will back off/run away
2) I will not stop firing until the threat is neutralized... it was their choice to attack me and die.
If somebody forces me to draw on them, then their life is forfeit. Period.
Comprehension is critical here Chief, see the "if that's all available" disclaimer.
AFAIK , body armor also includes a ballistic helmet and groin protector
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Shooting to wound is never a good idea and in some cases will land you in legal trouble.
Any cop or district attorney out there is going to assume that if you fired simply to wound, the situation wasn't dire enough for force and therefore not justifiable, unless we're talking about more cut and dry situations like a guy breaks down your front door and gets in your house...then they might view you as an idiot, but an innocent idiot nonetheless.
Aside from the legal aspect of it, shooting to wound is simply further escalating things to where you may have to legitimately have to shoot to kill later. Let's say a neighbor comes over to your house upset about something you did that affected his property. He gets confrontational, then physical and you respond by shooting him in the leg.
Regardless if the shooting was justifiable or not you've likely angered this person to the point where you have just put yourself in danger.
In short, if absolutely necessary you shoot to kill or don't shoot at all.
Any cop or district attorney out there is going to assume that if you fired simply to wound, the situation wasn't dire enough for force and therefore not justifiable, unless we're talking about more cut and dry situations like a guy breaks down your front door and gets in your house...then they might view you as an idiot, but an innocent idiot nonetheless.
Aside from the legal aspect of it, shooting to wound is simply further escalating things to where you may have to legitimately have to shoot to kill later. Let's say a neighbor comes over to your house upset about something you did that affected his property. He gets confrontational, then physical and you respond by shooting him in the leg.
Regardless if the shooting was justifiable or not you've likely angered this person to the point where you have just put yourself in danger.
In short, if absolutely necessary you shoot to kill or don't shoot at all.
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I dont shoot to kill, I shoot to stop the threat (if they die because I shoot them in the chest to stop them from killing me... oh well)
No one comes away unscathed it is true, but some humans are closer to being a tiger or wolf, than they are a man. I keep it in mind, and that is why I am a tiger if I need to be.
PS: I am equal to the beast, if I fight like one; and that means that I think like one. I will save a round in a .357; so that if they tackle me, I will put one into their cranium.
And that goes for a tiger or a man.
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Dead men tell no tails.
or higher lawyers never ever shoot to wound or stop as some say.
You shoot to kill
You shoot to end the threat permanently
anything intentionally less is foolish.
or higher lawyers never ever shoot to wound or stop as some say.
You shoot to kill
You shoot to end the threat permanently
anything intentionally less is foolish.
What if, the threat was not really a threat? You must face death sentence, you shot to kill, you must die.
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What kind of a statement is this?
Have you bothered reading the thread, we were talking threats, not probable or maybe threats.
You must die???? Where the hell do you live? Take a lot more than one death to get capital murder here.
You don't know much about US criminal law either do you?
What is your suggestion, shoot marshmallows to stop someone?
I will do what I have had to do before and worry about the legal outcome later.
If it is a jihad assault, nobody is waking away, unlike impotent euroturds excusing them.
I keep reading about all that trash landing on the boot,
and the locals bending over pants down to accommodate them.
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