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I think the most important thing a guy can have after knowledge is being able to defend himself with his/her own hands , I'm wondering how many of you practice any kind of martial arts? and how may of you are thinking "I'll Go ALL raMbo IF sOmeoNe cOmeS at Me bRo" lol
I did got into it a bit late , but I do practice Brazilian Jiu Jitsu since last year and man its the best thing I have done , the first training was like eye opener , I couldn't do shit (although since I have my woodsmans strength I still managed to choke guys , tear my friends muscle etc but that doesnt have to do with skill , just pure muscle which doesnt help 95% of the time when going against skill and technique) I have been in quite a few scrambles and street fights in my younger days , although pulling guard wouldn't help lol some of the stuff would help , I do plan to learn striking as well , after I get used to BJJ I am thinking to go muay thai later.
Plus it helps with mental stuff , right before yesterdays session I almost attacked the taxi driver with the shit he did but I did stay calm didn't say 1 word ,although so angry probably steam was coming from my ears , but I saved it for the mat and when I was done training I was full with dopamine , happy as a baby :)
So how do you prep?
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Ya life long martial artist. I’ve done a number of MAs, but most recently BJJ, for 6-7 years, and it’s great, very practical, but not great against multiple attackers. I think a good standing game is important too..
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I'm tending to go with axe handle or baseball bat. I've seen what can be done with a 36" hard wood baton
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Ya life long martial artist. I’ve done a number of MAs, but most recently BJJ, for 6-7 years, and it’s great, very practical, but not great against multiple attackers. I think a good standing game is important too..
Of course , every style has its pros and cons , thats why you need to learn a few.
What I like about bjj is that its the only sport for ground game , yer there is judo , wrestling etc but bjj checks the most boxes on the ground , but the last thing I'd want is doing bjj against 3 guys in the street
I'm tending to go with axe handle or baseball bat. I've seen what can be done with a 36" hard wood baton
You can't have a bat everywhere you go , there are billion and one situations where you are bare handed in this life
You can't have a bat everywhere you go , there are billion and one situations where you are bare handed in this life
Now that's where you are wrong. Even courthouses and airlines allow folks that need a cane to walk carry one in these places. That also goes for a leather coin purse that can hold 18 to 20 dollars in quarters.

Think out side the box
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Been working on backing up fast. Gives more time to get the gun out. Also the bat under the seat and knife in pocket. Hoping my old wrestling skills will kick in.

My days of standing toe to toe or wrestling on the ground with somebody else are over. Figure I screwed up if things get that close.
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Of course , every style has its pros and cons , thats why you need to learn a few.
What I like about bjj is that its the only sport for ground game , yer there is judo , wrestling etc but bjj checks the most boxes on the ground , but the last thing I'd want is doing bjj against 3 guys in the street
No you don't? Some people just flit through every system they can, like it means merit badges or something? Like bunches of cool techniques you may never use are guaranteeing the win.

Lifelong too, just hung gar.
Very comfortable without weapons but have one of those zatoichi shirasaya walking stick swords and 5 others for various events, good 6'x1.5" pole and a couple 3' and half a dozen spears.

Most hood rat and criminal are going to be bjj or mma and are dangerous? But after basic skills the fight is in the fighter. WATCH these invaders and bjj people, they consider bashing your head dead on the ground to be the great trick. Cheap fast murder and no fight about it.....thats invaders though
I think the most important thing a guy can have after knowledge is being able to defend himself with his/her own hands , I'm wondering how many of you practice any kind of martial arts? and how may of you are thinking "I'll Go ALL raMbo IF sOmeoNe cOmeS at Me bRo" lol
I'm tending to go with axe handle or baseball bat. I've seen what can be done with a 36" hard wood baton
R.O.M., a trained martial artist would welcome being attacked by either a bat or axe over a knife, sword, stun gun, or mace. The problem with bats and axes is the weight and attack speed. TO counter these, one simply rushes into the swing and grabs or deflects the shaft. By doing this the velocity of the swing is greatly diminished along with the force that would have been exerted. A walking cane would be more effective, being lighter, faster attack speed, and for the fact one could use two hands, so one it not 'swinging' the cane as rather using either end of the cane for striking.

My father is a 2nd degree blackbelt in mixed martial arts, a combination of kung fu, hapkido, Taekwondo. I have had formal training in Boxing, karate, wrestling, along with the training from my father. I was a Fencer in HS & college, practiced Kendo (Katana Swords), and was trained in both hand-to-hand armed combat, & unarmed combat.

Fact is, some people, due to either height, weight, skill or speed, one style of martial arts may be rather ineffective. For example, I went vs. a 7-foot-tall martial artist at this Do jo my father went to. Boxing vs. this guy would be useless, as his arm & leg reach would always keep me at bay, same with the Full line back Football player I took down in college, as I couldn't do an Irish boxing match with the guy, matching punch for punch, as he just had too much weight behind his punches, and too much fat & muscle to absorb my punches. In those situations, I used wrestling and Hapkido maneuvers.

They skinny smaller quick Chinese kid that knew kung fu, (he started training at the age of 3), was far quicker than I was, and karate and wrestling was out as he was just to darn quick. Do to him be smaller and weighing less, I chose to box him, absorbing his punches and kicks to get close in.

Learning multiple forms of self-defense, Imo, is the best way to insure one's ability to defend themselves. Most importantly, if the style you are using appears to be ineffective, switch techniques, that alone will catch them off guard, & possibly giving you an opening for a knockout.

Fighting multiple people, one is best off to constantly punch and run, try to temporarily divide and conquer. It will allow you to possibly use your surroundings to help defend. Top of a metal trash can, or a fallen tree branch, a brick or rock, even tearing of the side mirror of a vehicle to hit them with. Just standing there swinging your fists will allow them to eventually pull you down or have guys holding your arms for someone to free swing, or worst case, knock you to the ground having them kicking you which is sure to break your ribs and give you a concussion.
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I pack two guns an asp and pepper spray..plus being a slick talker and trying to be polite seems to help being attacked by angry democrats...but a person just never knows.
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R.O.M., a trained martial artist would welcome being attacked by either a bat or axe over a knife, sword, stun gun, or mace. The problem with bats and axes is the weight and attack speed. TO counter these, one simply rushes into the swing and grabs or deflects the shaft. By doing this the velocity of the swing is greatly diminished along with the force that would have been exerted. A walking cane would be more effective, being lighter, faster attack speed, and for the fact one could use two hands, so one it not 'swinging' the cane as rather using either end of the cane for striking.

My father is a 2nd degree blackbelt in mixed martial arts, a combination of kung fu, hapkido, Taekwondo. I have had formal training in Boxing, karate, wrestling, along with the training from my father. I was a Fencer in HS & college, practiced Kendo (Katana Swords), and was trained in both hand-to-hand armed combat, & unarmed combat.

Fact is, some people, due to either height, weight, skill or speed, one style of martial arts may be rather ineffective. For example, I went vs. a 7-foot-tall martial artist at this Do jo my father went to. Boxing vs. this guy would be useless, as his arm & leg reach would always keep me at bay, same with the Full line back Football player I took down in college, as I couldn't do an Irish boxing match with the guy, matching punch for punch, as he just had too much weight behind his punches, and too much fat & muscle to absorb my punches. In those situations, I used wrestling and Hapkido maneuvers.

They skinny smaller quick Chinese kid that knew kung fu, (he started training at the age of 3), was far quicker than I was, and karate and wrestling was out as he was just to darn quick. Do to him be smaller and weighing less, I chose to box him, absorbing his punches and kicks to get close in.

Learning multiple forms of self-defense, Imo, is the best way to insure one's ability to defend themselves. Most importantly, if the style you are using appears to be ineffective, switch techniques, that alone will catch them off guard, & possibly giving you an opening for a knockout.

Fighting multiple people, one is best off to constantly punch and run, try to temporarily divide and conquer. It will allow you to possibly use your surroundings to help defend. Top of a metal trash can, or a fallen tree branch, a brick or rock, even tearing of the side mirror of a vehicle to hit them with. Just standing there swinging your fists will allow them to eventually pull you down or have guys holding your arms for someone to free swing, or worst case, knock you to the ground having them kicking you which is sure to break your ribs and give you a concussion.
It's kinda obvious that you've not been introduced on how to effectively use a baton. Rather than trying to master a bunch of multiple steps moves you learn how to use it to your best effect. Clearing an 8' diameter space around you gives you a lot of options without getting within grappling distance of the thugs
The bat is just a distraction so I can get to my gun. Also a deterrent, before going to guns. Hoping the idiot that had chosen poorly and wants to attack me. One last chance before using the stair way to heaven.

Pretty sure you have been watching to many movies. It's not going to be like the Warriors. If it does you screwed up big time.
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It's kinda obvious that you've not been introduced on how to effectively use a baton. Rather than trying to master a bunch of multiple steps moves you learn how to use it to your best effect. Clearing an 8' diameter space around you gives you a lot of options without getting within grappling distance of the thugs
Actually, you would be mistaken Real old Man. 1st of all I was referring to a bat or an axe, and mentioned I would prefer a cane, which is more like a baton than a bat or axe. I prefer the cane as it can be used like a baton. Faster attack speed, can be used to jab rather than swing, can be used to block knives, deflect bats, and after getting hit, you can use is for its intended purpose, a cane lol.

Pretty sure you have been watching to many movies. It's not going to be like the Warriors. If it does you screwed up big time.
Chipper, wish you were correct about your assumption, but in reality, it is from personal experience. I was a very white, redheaded kid going to school in a predominantly Hispanic & Black area. There were numerous gangs, bullies, punks and what have you. I have been shot at, tasered, hit with a stun gun, have people come at me with rocks, bats, sticks, brass knuckles, knives, chairs, pool sticks, even with a beer bottle, and have the stiches on the back of my head to prove it.

Personally, despite how painful the stun gun/ taser was, the most problematic attack was the beer bottle. Took hours of having forced water from a device to remove all the glass particles from the wound area, that and they had to shave a large portion of my hair, that, I was also not too happy about.

Warriors huh, haven't seen that movie for decades, and you are correct it did end up like that at one point, and I was pretty screw'd at 1st. I was extremely lucky to have a few Hells Angels gang members living across the street in California. They had allowed me to hang out over their property. One of them actually had a PoS truck for hauling [email protected]#$, and would bring me to school and pick me up with a couple others riding along side of us after a local gang at school had marked me. HAMC member spread the word to local rival gangs that if anything happened to me there would be repercussions. ( for those curious why I was in trouble, i refused to be intimate with a gal that was coming on to me, turns out she was the GF of the gang leader, and I can only guess that she said that I came on to her, or maybe disrespected her, or something to get his gang on me)

The HAMC spreading this to rival gangs seemed to have worked for all the gangs around my school with the exception of the head gang leader who took it upon himself to bring me down, luckily, on the day that he was going to kill me, he was caught with a gun in his locker, and was arrested, and that was that. I doubt he had a warm welcoming in prison from the Hells Angels, and I never had a problem with his gang ever since he was jailed.

Oh, & a shout out to the Hells Angels, Thx for saving my life guys, I never forgot & have always given high praise to HAMC ever since...
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You guys are also missing a very important point that is more likely then popping zombie heads in shtf...
The most likely case is you meet someone stupid/drunk/high last thing you want is kill the guy , cripple him , give big damage to him , bleed him , make him a vegetable...... and most important avoid getting sued and going to jail , in the most likely event of getting in a scramble with someone , I'm better of double legging him and choking him from the back , make him go to sleep and end it right there without further ass pain....

If you are smart about your life , not walking at night in ghetto , dangerous neighborhoods etc , in this case whats the most likely event you encounter , drunk guy at a pub ? drunk guy at a grocery shop , some stupid guy in the street , someone insults you somewhere etc , the last thing you should want is spreading his head open with a bat or shoot him yes? in this case bjj allows you to do literally zero damage and end the situation , if you have multiple enemies , judo throws or muay tai would work and not only that , when someone sees you are a squared away dude that is ready to roll more then half would just leave you alone and thats a fact....
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I dislike going to basebell games or other sporting events because it means my weapon is in my vehicle... worse case I will take off my belt and whip the shit out of an attacker with the metal buckle
Personally, i think the best non-lethal self-defense weapon is a canister of Mace. I have read of articles where someone dies from a taser or stun gun, died from choker holds, but I have yet to hear/read of someone dying from being Maced.

That belt idea is a good one, & is also useful to disarm knife attackers, but I especially like it vs. attacking dogs, holding part of the belt in each hand and shoving it into the dog's mouth, holding them at bay.

Just a word of advice, don't go commando, let's just say after losing weight, I realized after the fact how important that belt was to me.
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Personally, i think the best non-lethal self-defense weapon is a canister of Mace. I have read of articles where someone dies from a taser or stun gun, died from choker holds, but I have yet to hear/read of someone dying from being Maced.

That belt idea is a good one, & is also useful to disarm knife attackers, but I especially like it vs. attacking dogs, holding part of the belt in each hand and shoving it into the dog's mouth, holding them at bay.

Just a word of advice, don't go commando, let's just say after losing weight, I realized after the fact how important that belt was to me.
Max strength oc is bear spray. Spray a human with Bear spray and you stand a real good chance of doing major damage
Personally, i think the best non-lethal self-defense weapon is a canister of Mace. I have read of articles where someone dies from a taser or stun gun, died from choker holds, but I have yet to hear/read of someone dying from being Maced.

That belt idea is a good one, & is also useful to disarm knife attackers, but I especially like it vs. attacking dogs, holding part of the belt in each hand and shoving it into the dog's mouth, holding them at bay.

Just a word of advice, don't go commando, let's just say after losing weight, I realized after the fact how important that belt was to me.
Personally, i think the best non-lethal self-defense weapon is a canister of Mace. I have read of articles where someone dies from a taser or stun gun, died from choker holds, but I have yet to hear/read of someone dying from being Maced.

That belt idea is a good one, & is also useful to disarm knife attackers, but I especially like it vs. attacking dogs, holding part of the belt in each hand and shoving it into the dog's mouth, holding them at bay.

Just a word of advice, don't go commando, let's just say after losing weight, I realized after the fact how important that belt was to me.
I have a hippy pal who will take two bags of whatever your smoking. lol.
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I think the most important thing a guy can have after knowledge is being able to defend himself with his/her own hands , I'm wondering how many of you practice any kind of martial arts?

So how do you prep?
I do Karate Goju and Shotokan-based Full Contact Karate (mixes Shotokan, Boxing, Judo, Aikido, Wrestling and Kung-fu), Judo, Jujitsu (Japanese), some BJJ and wrestling in High School. Kickboxed with both American and Muay Thai... Plus a few Military Hand-to-Hand Combatives and Self-Defense styles. I like to learn and couldn't always find what I wanted to train in an the areas I've lived...

Best thing I ever heard came from a Hapkido instructor "Until people grow 4 arms and legs there is only 1 martial art, everything else is just training and traditions." Which follows with my philosophy of adding tools to my tool box.

I'd add some weapons and of course Ninjutsu (sneaking about).
Hey just look at the news. baseball bat works on GOP staff why not on the miscreants
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