Scout Rifle viability & having realistic expectations

I have questions and input...
1. What do you see needing a Scout Rifle for?
2. The term "Scout" means "to observe in order to obtain information or evaluate." what does being a scout have to do with your idea of community survival?
3. ... To answer your question.

Echo47 said:

Without boring you with specs, ideas & whatnot, what viability do you see in the scout rifle concept? I see first & foremost practicality. I'm probably not going to spend every day in full battle rattle, but could have a fast handling bolt or lever gun with extra rounds on board all the live long day. Ammo consumption would be much more manageable & I'm familiar enough with living off land & snap-shooting coyotes to comfortably rely on the rifle as a break-contact weapon.

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Scouts/Snipers rely on a Remington 700 in .308 and they often work in a buddy team, with a second person rocking a M4/M16 and an M203 Grenade Launcher. So of course you aren't going to being rocking the full battle rattle but, again what does the Scout Role mean for your Community Support Survival Strategy..?

They engage targets outside the target's most effect range to respond and, are specially trained to do so. So I, honestly, believe the Scout Rifle concept is not good for Community defense, unless you are engaging mohawked raiders in spiked football pads for body armor, the added range would be effective for defense. Otherwise, its more a Scout Role to get in get information and get back with the information; if they have have to engage at the added range they do so to get space to break contact and the Rifle is supplemented with the Spotter's M4/M16 and M203.

4. ... My Thoughts on the Scout Rifle, if I am going to rely on a scout-rifle as a lone-wolf and not as small team. I am going for a AR10 carbine style rifle or M14 style rifle in .308 that I can use for close combat and lets me more effective at longer ranges. Terrain dictates tactics and my tactics are likely to change... I prefer operating in a small team with everyone using different role specific weapons based on mission and terrain.

I'm also an infantry veteran and, think in those terms. As Kauboy said, if it is your "cup of tea" go for it... I only want to encourage you to think about why? And, if it helps you to address getting you closer to that why?

Back Pack Hack said:

You implied that, by the definition of 'scout' that you provided, it can't apply to a rifle.

Who's backtracking now?

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Wrong I said:

wraithofroncollins said:

I have questions and input...
1. What do you see needing a Scout Rifle for?
2. The term "Scout" means "to observe in order to obtain information or evaluate." what does being a scout have to do with your idea of community survival?

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1. was a reference specifically to Col. Cooper's Scout Rifle Concept... citing the link (I provided) "Cooper realized that rifles in the late 20th century differed little from those used by celebrated scouts such as Maj. Frederick Russell Burnham one hundred years before, and that advances in metallurgy, optics, and plastics could make the rifle a handy, light instrument "that will do a great many things equally well...".[2] Cooper's scout-rifle concept was largely influenced by the exploits of the scout Burnham in the Western United States and Africa and as such it is best suited to a man operating either alone or in a two or three man team.[3] "
2. Was a reference to a Scout's role to "to observe in order to obtain information or evaluate." but feel free to pick any definition from the link I provided...

Its ok... Apparently you need to imply things I never said nor implied... Keep moving the goal post to defend your position by suggesting whatever it is you keep trying to suggest...

You provided the link to the definition of Scout Rifle as the Definition of a Scout. Under your definition (following your link) we see "Cooper's scout-rifle concept was largely influenced by the exploits of the scout Burnham in the Western United States and Africa and as such it is best suited to a man operating either alone or in a two or three man team." So how was I wrong..?

Echo47 said:

What AR10's would you recommend, preferably not a SCAR or likewise priced, I hope! That's beyond my piggy bank's capabilities.

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I was a soldier, so as a military vet I'm more familiar and comfortable with AR15 style rifles and the AR10 is similar in design so it falls into that category. Honestly I think any AR10 style carbine with a 20 round mag would work. All the Scout Rifle capability with a semi-auto magazine fed "assault rifle" combat capability.

In fact the Wiki linked to this article on the AR as a Scout Rifle which is kind of where I lean myself but, my functionality is more tactical in application. I assume the "enemy" (that is anyone who is a threat to me and mine) knows everything I know and maybe more. So I am a bit "paranoid" in the threat assessments but, I figure I also can't be overprepared either... lol

A lot of people get caught up in trying to find the one magic rifle that will do everything... Shooting is like fixing a car, different tools for different jobs, best you can do is find what works best for you. Just focus on your goal towards survival. Since you're likely to be defending a specific location, you can think in terms of defense and you might have to face four legged threats as well as two legged ones.