You keep saying the same thing... and I keep saying the same thing in response, and it's never addressed.So every time an incident happens, regardless of what it is, you can change the standard. Keep moving the goal post should work. After 21, you can aim for 25, then 30 and so on.
The same people who moved the goal post in the first place.Tell me who will move the goal post.
Who will support prolonging the voting age to 25 and then 30?
Yet.21 is already a historic precedent. 25, 30, and onward are not, and never have been.
Biden turned heads Memorial Day when he claimed that the most popular caliber of gun in America was "high caliber" and that there was "no rational basis" for Americans to use the firearms for protecting themselves or even for "hunting."
The president also floated the suggestion of banning the guns outright.
Which people, and who is "they"?The same people who moved the goal post in the first place.
So when they find out that moving the age to 21 didn't work, what do you think will happen next? And when someone who is 25 or under does something horrific, won't they move the goal post again?
At least now I know you are for expanding the govt. They want more like you, I can assure you.
THEY will be the people who move the goal post you keep praising. THEY will also be the people who want to ban the 2nd Amendment. No, it hasn't started yet, but it will. Hide and watch.Which people, and who is "they"?
Seriously, be specific.
Who supports increasing the age of buying a gun AND voting?
"They" don't exist.THEY will be the people who move the goal post you keep praising. THEY will also be the people who want to ban the 2nd Amendment. No, it hasn't started yet, but it will. Hide and watch.
As to the rest of it, I'm done. We are getting nowhere fast. Actually I'm surprised. I would have never thought you would be for expansion of liberty restrictions. And yes, upping the age limit would be another restriction.
But, just for the record, I think we have much larger issues we'll be facing by the fall.
One thing you tend to forget. All human have the God given right to keep and bear arms. Last I looked there's nothing in the constitution that says no Rights until you are 21 or 18. So you are depriving all not 21 of their rights. Next it will be self incrimination or right to assemble or a speedy trial.Until one attains the age of majority, certain rights are simply not available. There is no "earning".
My proposal would not cause any loss of rights.
I specifically stated that any person between the ages of 18 and 20 at the time of the law's passing would still be a legal adult. A "grandfather clause", if you will, as is common in many laws.
They would lose nothing.
The 17 year old days away from their birthday, having never attained the age of majority, would still have the same set of rights they enjoy. Nothing is lost, but the full panoply of rights would be delayed for an additional 3 years until the age of majority was reached.
There may be an expectation of new rights upon their 18th birthday, which this would extinguish, but that is not an actual loss.
The only reason anyone could conclude that this equates to a "loss" of rights is a result of the poorly thought out decision to lower the age of majority in the first place. We should seek to fix bad law, should we not?
In reality, this would not actually be a new law. It would be a repeal, and reversion to previous law.
This was precedent at our nation's founding.
“Yeah, summer is coming and on July Fourth weekend, we’ll probably see many [mass shootings], but I don’t see this as a harbinger of worse things to come,” Fox said. “The one thing that does concern me is we’ve seen a surge in gun purchasing. And it’s hard to commit a mass shooting without a gun.”
Nowhere, at all, did I claim anything about children having "no rights". Literally nowhere.One thing you tend to forget. All human have the God given right to keep and bear arms. Last I looked there's nothing in the constitution that says no Rights until you are 21 or 18. So you are depriving all not 21 of their rights. Next it will be self incrimination or right to assemble or a speedy trial.
Where would it end
My proposal is not to simply raise the age to buy a gun, but raise the age of majority back to what it was at our nation's founding.Raising the legal age to buy a gun doesn't stop another person from buying the gun legally and giving access to that gun to a minor. Also we need to address the root of the problem: mental health and white supremacy in this country. If we don't do that we could ban all guns and people will just use knifes and crossbows or bombs. You can't ban Gasoline or chemical fertilizer can you?
There's no legal age for illegal drugs. Bad example.Changing the age to buy alcohol didnt stop many from buying. Illegal drugs, same thing.
Watch what happens in Canada, with Trudeau stopping weapons purchases' etc..
And on a side note, nobody is prepared enough to go against our Government..
There's no legal age for illegal drugs. Bad example.
Your last comment sounds a lot like Biden, and it's false. The Taliban proved that.
How are we restricted by the age of majority being returned to what it was at our founding?My point is criminals will be criminals. Laws that restrict us only restrict us..
Taliban didnt win the battles, but they won the political war..
Do children have a right to a trial by a jury of their peers?Your basic premise is flawed. The constitution says nothing about purchasing a gun. The natural right is to keep and bear arms. This has no age limit on it. Just like free speech and self incrimination. As for selling a firearm there is nothing to prevent me as a seller or giver to say no to selling or giving you one.
You've got the two concepts mixed.
And don't tell me to go and read all of your posts it's very clear that on this issue you are an appeaser who hopes his idea will postpone the seizure of his firearms by the ultra ◀