[Sourdough]

You honestly expect everyone to have that ability? How about the millions who live in high-rise apartments? You think the buildings are capable of storing 15 to 20 tons of water per person?

They die first....SADLY.

Agreed. But that alone isn't an automatic death sentence for those who are truly prepared. Many of us have the ability to source questionable water and purify it to make it potable. And if you are relying totally on those arbitrary 15 to 40 fresh water sources for your water, you'll find out quickly how inaccessible they become. A group with more muscle that you can start taking them over and you'll be left out. Or they may be drained in a matter of days and dry up.

That is "NOT" possible. If you have access to 15 or 40 sources of fresh (pure) water, and no human competition for that water, you will always have water. Live where there is abundant "FREE" food for the harvesting, abundant water, you have mitigated 85% of survival requirements.

New-school prepping has adapted to modern standards.

Modern standards are fatally flawed. That is not debatable.

you're not doing the movement any favors.

I am trying to save people, not do favors or patronize.
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I can guarantee YOU aren't the 'ultimate prepper' with the abilities and resources to survive anything that comes your way. Someone will be better at something, someone will have more of something than you. Does that condemn you? I think not.

You are right I am not. But my "Training" started in 1951. I have spent nearly all the last 53 years living and surviving in Wilderness Alaska. I have been studying and living prepping/survival for 70 of the last 76 years. I have spent over five decades searching for and purchasing the most perfect locations to survive, with minimal hardship, post catastrophic SHTF environment. I have 38 years working as an Alaskan Big Game Hunting Guide. I am "NOT" the best, but I have a fair chance.

 

[AndyFrank]

They die first....SADLY.



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I am trying to save people, not do favors or patronize.
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You are right I am not. But my "Training" started in 1951. I have spent nearly all the last 53 years living and surviving in Wilderness Alaska. I have been studying and living prepping/survival for 70 of the last 76 years. I have spent over five decades searching for and purchasing the most perfect locations to survive, with minimal hardship, post catastrophic SHTF environment. I have 38 years working as an Alaskan Big Game Hunting Guide. I am "NOT" the best, but I have a fair chance.

And I can see how people feel you are here to brag about that and point out that unless they live where and like you do, they're screwed. It may be an oversight, but you always present challenges without solutions and your consistent answer to everything is "move to the wilderness and get a well" regardless of anybodys ability.

It would be really hard for anybody at this point to move and get started, but if they could they would be better off with a guide. I'm selling spots too with experienced residents, to nuclear families with a pet that are educable and will work. But most think they are just paying money to be taken care of, not leasing a place with greater viability

So if you are selling spots you are doing that well enough. How you are "saving people" i couldn't say? Move to rural is so common its cliche? Everybody already knew that since 1951?

 

[Back Pack Hack]

They die first....SADLY.


That is "NOT" possible. If you have access to 15 or 40 sources of fresh (pure) water, and no human competition for that water, you will always have water. Live where there is abundant "FREE" food for the harvesting, abundant water, you have mitigated 85% of survival requirements.



Modern standards are fatally flawed. That is not debatable.


I am trying to save people, not do favors or patronize.
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You are right I am not. But my "Training" started in 1951. I have spent nearly all the last 53 years living and surviving in Wilderness Alaska. I have been studying and living prepping/survival for 70 of the last 76 years. I have spent over five decades searching for and purchasing the most perfect locations to survive, with minimal hardship, post catastrophic SHTF environment. I have 38 years working as an Alaskan Big Game Hunting Guide. I am "NOT" the best, but I have a fair chance.

Well, I guess you consider yourself The Ultimate Prepper, based on your short tenure here and your demeaning responses to everyone. I now grant you that title. You win.

Now, let the rest of us peons continue our quest.

 

[Sourdough]

Well, I guess you consider yourself The Ultimate Prepper, based on your short tenure here and your demeaning responses to everyone. I now grant you that title. You win.

You are wrong. I am very far from the ultimate prepper, very far. I have simply spent the last 53+ years, actually living what most preppers fear "could" be their last chance lifestyle following a post SHTF event.

I do believe that most preppers are going to fail, simply because current prepping is reading about it, yet having zero firsthand experience living it. I started being trained for what many feel is coming 71 years ago. Many of those who have been living it see clearly that modern prepping is a placebo. We are trying to help, but that intimidates those who have been seduced into the illusion of being prepared.