[survival]

I don't always get a flu shot, but when I do, the technician makes the grimace.

I know vaccinations are required/recommended for some 3rd world countries and I hear stories from vets opting out of them or becoming sick due to the vacs. Anyone have any serious side effects with vaccinations? Is anyone staying on top of recommended vacs for the future?

 

[brimstone]

I don't get flu vaccinations. There is too much bad stuff in vaccines that I don't want injected in my body.

 

[Denton]

I have no choice, right now. Uncle Sugar says I'll have them.
From what I have been told, they are not good at all for the ol' bod. As Brimstone said, there's some putrid crap in them.

 

[Desert Marine]

I have no choice, right now. Uncle Sugar says I'll have them.
From what I have been told, they are not good at all for the ol' bod. As Brimstone said, there's some putrid crap in them.

Here is a blog post that I made regarding the flu shot. It gives my personal recommendations on what to do if you HAVE to get the flu shot due to occupation/job requirements such as military and medical professional as well as was to counteract the flu shot negative effects on the body.

 

[Alpha-17]

I have no choice, right now. Uncle Sugar says I'll have them.
From what I have been told, they are not good at all for the ol' bod. As Brimstone said, there's some putrid crap in them.

I'm in the same boat. The majority of vaccines that I've had to take during my time (anthrax, smallpox, etc), I've felt were relatively useful. The Flu vaccines are the only ones I hate, because, like clock work, they always give me the flu. Go figure.

 

[Southern Dad]

I take the flu vaccination every year. It is free and I'm all about preparing. I've managed not to use a sick day in five years.

 

[Lattice]

I'm in the same boat. The majority of vaccines that I've had to take during my time (anthrax, smallpox, etc), I've felt were relatively useful.

How do you figure? The anthrax and smallpox vaccines they give you do not work against 99.9 percent of the weaponized bugs.

 

[jgriner]

During the first swine flu out break, the vaccine killed more than the flu. That's why I didn't get the vaccine during the last out break.

I've also never gotten a flu vaccine, I'm not normally opposed to vaccines but I just don't get the flu one.

 

[preppermama]

I don't always get a flu shot, but when I do, the technician makes the grimace.

I know vaccinations are required/recommended for some 3rd world countries and I hear stories from vets opting out of them or becoming sick due to the vacs. Anyone have any serious side effects with vaccinations? Is anyone staying on top of recommended vacs for the future?

Oh heavens, don't go to infowars.com, Alex Jones freaks out on this subject. LOL.

I havent personally had a reaction, but one of my pugs did. She almost died from a reaction to her leptospirosis shot. I also have a friend who nearly died from a vaccination reaction. I'm not surprised people have bad reactions, If you actually go and read the vaccine ingredients you'll be shocked to find a ton of carcinogenic and toxic stuff on the list. And regardless of what studies say, I do think autism and vaccines are correlated in some cases.

However, even with all the bad, I still think vaccines play an important role in public health. My husband's grandmother died of influenza and my great uncle contracted measles as a baby and lost his hearing because of it. Both happened prior to the days of vaccines. I decided to take the middle road in vaccinating my kids, but it has been a huge fight on my part. I don't believe in overloading a child's immune system with 6 shots all at once, especially after reading what's actually in the shots. Why stress a child's immune system like that?

Thanks for corporate medicine 95% of pediatricians will refuse to take your child on as a patient unless you agree to vaccinate according to the mandated schedule, meaning 6 shots a visit. It took me forever to find a pediatrician for my son who would agree to let us do 2 shots per visit.

I never do flu shots...the last time I did (over 10 years ago) I got the worst flu of my life. Haven't been sick since. However, I work from home so I am not exposed to the public very often at all. I also wash my hands constantly in public. I am a bit of a germophobe. LOL.

 

[Alpha-17]

How do you figure? The anthrax and smallpox vaccines they give you do not work against 99.9 percent of the weaponized bugs.

True, but they work against some and that's more than I had going for me without them. Uncle Sam has also sent me to some nasty places, and I've not caught anything yet, so I'll take that as something is working.

 

[Lattice]

I for one do not believe for one second that autism and vaccines are in any way related. There is just too much data out there that shows otherwise, and way too much evidence that the study that showed a link was fraudulent.

That said, I hate vaccines. In my entire adult life Ive only been sick three times. All three times were directly after I got a vaccine. Yes there is a lot of bad stuff in them. But instead of hating them because of some fraudulent study, hate them for what they really are.

The human immune system is an amazing thing. It can handle nearly anything the world throws at it, if it is kept in good shape.

True, but they work against some and that's more than I had going for me without them. Uncle Sam has also sent me to some nasty places, and I've not caught anything yet, so I'll take that as something is working.

Could it instead be that you weren't exposed to anything you were exposed to? Its kinda like a guy handing you a fake talisman and saying that if you carry it, you won't get shot. Every day you make it home without getting shot and you think its working.

Why do I say this? Because the strains they protect against have been extinct for round about twenty years save for in labs.

 

[wesley762]

I personaly think the last time I got a flu shot or any kind of vaccinations was when I was 5 and that was about 31 years ago, If I have been fine all these years I am pretty sure I am going to be good in the future. My wife has stopped getting the flu shots because they have done nothing but make her sick. I am sure they have there place and some of them are good for the most part, but I am not fond of them.

 

[preppermama]

I for one do not believe for one second that autism and vaccines are in any way related. There is just too much data out there that shows otherwise, and way too much evidence that the study that showed a link was fraudulent.

My beliefs about the correlation between autism and vaccinations is not based on studies at all. Honestly, I don't put a lot of faith in health studies in general because they change all the time. One minute they tell you eggs are bad, the next minute they're the perfect food. One minute vaccines cause autism, the next minute they don't. Studies change all the time, a lot of times depending on who is funding them (LOL).

That being said, I do put a lot of faith in life experience and the three different friends of mine who have children with autism/severe Aspbergers syndrome. All three developed the intiial signs of the condition within days of getting their MMR shot at the doctor. That's evidence enough for me to split the MMR up into three shots with my son and delay if for as long as I dare.

 

[rice paddy daddy]

True, but they work against some and that's more than I had going for me without them. Uncle Sam has also sent me to some nasty places, and I've not caught anything yet, so I'll take that as something is working.

Before I went to Nam, at the 6 month mark, and then before I could come home I (like everybody else) received a battery of shots, plague, typhus, various other tropical diseases, etc. I've long ago lost my shot record so I don't really know what all those shots were.
My question is, once a person has been innoculated against these things, does it last for life, or wear off?

 

[RaigenB]

Nooo, I do not get shots anymore. Too many "fillers" in them that do not need to be in our bodies.
Here are some links I found on Pinterest the other day, thought they were interesting...

Vaccines: Get the Full Story - NaturalNews.com
Vaccine Theory Proven Wrong: Study by NIH | Gaia HealthGaia Health

"Vaccines Are Synthetic

Vaccines do not produce natural immunity. This study documents that it matters. Natural is superior to synthetic. It's now well known that vaccinations do not produce consistent immunity, nor does what immunity they produce last long. To work at all, they must include toxic substances and ingredients that can produce autoimmune diseases. This is all known to be true. The fact is that a form of rheumatoid arthritis is produced in rats(4) by injecting them with a vaccine adjuvant. To suggest that vaccines are harmless, or even relatively so, can only happen by refusing to acknowledge the overwhelming evidence otherwise." - A quote from the second link

 

[survival]

My question is, once a person has been innoculated against these things, does it last for life, or wear off?

When I worked in the hospital, I had the hepatitis vaccination and had to go through a series (3 I think) and then I remember something like I had to come back in so many years for a booster shot.

 

[Blackcat]

I just dont know... i dont know if its good or bad. I do know I seem to instinctively distrust anything that 'they' tell me I should put in my body. I dont know if they are wrong... it just sort of feels a lot like having a dingo mind your baby. It feels unnatural.
That being said my work is offering flu shots right now. I wont be getting one lol

 

[pakrat]

Before I went to Nam, at the 6 month mark, and then before I could come home I (like everybody else) received a battery of shots, plague, typhus, various other tropical diseases, etc. I've long ago lost my shot record so I don't really know what all those shots were.
My question is, once a person has been innoculated against these things, does it last for life, or wear off?

I think I got the same battery in 1970 you did. For twenty years following, every time I came in contact with something bad, those injection sights would swell up, get red and puss-up (sorry for the graphic description). Doctors would tell me, 'that's not possible', but they couldn't explain the proof in front of them. Since around 2000 I haven't had any occurrences of swelling anymore, but I also have never had the flu.

I don't get vaccines (other than tetanus ). I do not trust them… it seems like a really easy way for the Agenda 21 crowd (our United Nations) to hit their 'reduce the population by 200 million people' quota. I'll let my body fight its own battles.

 

[Will2]

Just posting in here again. I had posted I think to another thread somewhere in the forums regarding the dangers of vaccinatinos. i stated that fever was likely a cause of some adverse effects and that people should wrap wet towels around their head and throw on the airconditioning like total recall. I have been reading more on this and was convinced that another element particularly in children but also adults is adjudivants and desanitizers.. particularly mercury that is in the vaccines under various names.

Apparently these metals stay in the body, in the case of the aluminum that is used it may be related to cognition issues.

Not all vaccines use metals however they were very common, particularly in the 1990s when some started switching over to non mercury containing vaccines.

This is a major risk people should be aware of especially if getting a lot of vaccinations.

Do not vaccinate your kids if the vaccines contain heavy metals and I would stay well away from any of them containing aluminum.

Research any vaccine you plan on getting and ask if there are alternative vaccines that do not contain heavy metals or aluminum - or any metals at all, especially mercury or other toxic substances.

The stuff stays in your body for the rest of your life, and it causes brain damage.

The fever could be in not only caused bbb antibody build up and flooding but also toxic shock.

Especially if these things arn't checked on a molecular ppm basis.. meaning you may get more mercury and someone may get less mercury depending on what part of the centrefuge you draw your stuff from.. since centrefuges will seperate stuff to a certain extent different batch areas may have higher concentrations than others, meaning some people get it light others heavy and everyone gets it bad if metals are in the vaccine.. they need to use only biodegradeble ingredient.. the problem is that they need to figure out adjuviants that last.

http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/SafetyAvailability/VaccineSafety/UCM096228

This has been a secret kept from the public.
These attenuated viruses undergo mutation brought on by the presence of free radicals in the tissues and organs and they can mutate into virulent, disease-causing organisms. Recent studies have confirmed this frightening finding. In fact, a large percentage of Alzheimer's disease patients have live viruses in their brain as compared to normal individuals.
Once these live viruses are injected, they cannot be removed. Because the viruses stay in the body, they will be under constant free radical exposure, which can increase during times of stress, illness, exercise and with aging. It is the free radicals that cause the virus to mutate.
In essence, the viruses can exist in the brain, or any organ, either silently and slowly producing destruction of the brain or spinal cord or producing sudden disease once the virus mutates to a highly lethal form.

- source: http://www.icnr.com/articles/blalockonvaccines.html

 

[Will2]

When I worked in the hospital, I had the hepatitis vaccination and had to go through a series (3 I think) and then I remember something like I had to come back in so many years for a booster shot.

Yeah there was a protest movement happening and a couple kids got hep.. so they -- after the protests forced everyone to do the hep series...as a requirement of being in highschool. I was not really an organizer but was involved with one of the organizations that organized a walkout.. when I got my first shot the the nurse was like -- "he is one of them", I think they switched the needle but I could be wrong.. they seemed like they may have had a checklist. None the less I didn't get the entire series as I got sort of like mono just loss of energy totally and I only got like the first shot or first two shots can't really remember all I know is that I didn't get the whole series and just got really tired for a while my sleep pattern went all over the place but it was mostly due to lifestyle staying up late at night. None the less ended up more or less being forced out of school for truancy as I pretty much stopped going to school sleeping in etc.. mornings became painful to get active.

None the less my experience with hep was only part of the series.. I think that they did a b and c, not sure what order but I guess I only have one or two of them. The "he is one of them" aspect is alittle spooky that the government could have a list of people to either not give or give something else. I also developed something like lactose intolerance. Maybe it was just the vaccine for hep.. but it'd be nice if I could check my dna ect. to see if it was what they said it was.

It is scarry to think the government could target organizers with biological agents in a forced immunization program to teenagers.

on the plus side I lost like 50 lbs of fat and haven't been obese since.

gov 1 : victim 1

I'd like to know why they stress.. the final dose should always be given.. WHY should the final dose always be given?

because of the prolonged incubation period of hepatitis B, some protection will be afforded to most travellers following the second dose given before travel. However, the final dose should always be given.

This inactivated vaccine

inactivated vaccine?