They are watching you now for sure.I have a power plant about 25 ft from the back of my BOL and wasn't sure if it would possibly serve any purpose if shtf? Assuming the grid was down I'm sure it would be worthless, besides possibly salvaging for bartering materials, any ideas?
WHOA! Like Comegetme said, he was talking about a SHTF world, so if a power station is standing rusting and derelict why shouldn't we help ourselves to any bits and pieces from it to help us stay alive? Same with derelict supermarkets, we'd be crazy not to grab some food rather than let it rot away!..Do NOT --- repeat, NOT!!! -- "salvage" (= "steal") any equipment from the power plant under ANY circumstances, especially if SHTF! -- Don't even THINK about it!
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'Very good thinking, PrepperMama!
Especially after seeing all the recommendations here and elsewhere for backfeeding from a generator.
I suggest preparation is superior to looting anyways. Think about it. You're going to need more than electricity. You'll also need appliances themselves. What good is a transformer if you're on the move for instance? It will just weigh you down.I have a power plant about 25 ft from the back of my BOL and wasn't sure if it would possibly serve any purpose if shtf? Assuming the grid was down I'm sure it would be worthless, besides possibly salvaging for bartering materials, any ideas?
Once again, we are assuming a total breakdown of society, for the long term. There are a great number of things that can be used from a power plant. Having to worry about being shocked a month, two months, six months after society breaks down? I would say not so much.There is absolutely NOTHING in a power station that will help you "stay alive" if it is not functioning. You can't eat copper wire; you can't cook with the chemicals you will find there.
There is nothing to GAIN that is greater than what you will LOSE by dismantling a power station.
We are civilized men and women. It is electrical power that drives our civilization. Electricity isn't magic; it doesn't happen by magic, and it won't be restored by magic, either. It will be restored by thinking, breathing men and women like myself....
... BUT ONLY IF THE EQUIPMENT IS STILL THERE WHEN WE COME LOOKING FOR IT.
If you or any of you dismantle that equipment or allow anyone else to do so, you will be admitting defeat. You will be bringing about the permanent loss of our civilization.
You will be declaring yourself to be no better, no smarter than your average animal.
You will be a traitor to humanity.
And what will you tell your children?
(an electrical engineer specializing in power)
Neither will there be anyone experienced in plant management, operation, or repair. If you have to relearn everything, having equipment does you no good. We're talking mad max type world here bubba.Again -- it is even MORE important to leave the equipment in place in a complete-breakdown-for-the-long-term situation. The reason is that if that is the case, your only hope of ever seeing a return to electricity lies in keeping the equipment in place, because there will not be any new equipment any time soon.
My board of directors and I have started a nonprofit to build an ecovillage so that we can prep in plain view of the govt. with their approval. If you're really thinkin' about goin' off the grid you should message me.I suggest preparation is superior to looting anyways. Think about it. You're going to need more than electricity. You'll also need appliances themselves. What good is a transformer if you're on the move for instance? It will just weigh you down.
In your scenario, the plant is near your BOL. Therefore it is likely that other people in your location will be looking to get power as well. How is taking stuff advantageous to you then? You're basically painting a big old target on your back aren't you??? ESPECIALLY if you plan to jerry-rig some loud primitive electrical generator.
I'm not a believer in green energy yet for daily life, but survival is a different story. I would suggest putting money away to invest in solar or wind capabilities. Think about it. You really only need to run a refrigerator and freezer 99% of the time if SHTF. I would figure out how much battery power you needed to run a fridge and then divide it into 2 battery banks. Use 1 to run the appliances while the other bank charges.
Another option would be micro-hydroelectric power if your BOL is near running water. I hope to move off the grid with hydroelectric power one day.
Absolutely right. The kid asked a legit question and it deserved a legit response. Not childish name calling. Let's be grown ups here folks. One reason I joined was that admin made it clear as did most of the earlier members that they were HAPPY to answer any questions even if they've already been covered. Respect and control of your tongue will be a great resource when shtf.Well as far as I know, after SHTF nothing is going to matter so Paravani's argument is out the window. in SHTF all bets are off. I would be more worried about fortifying the powerplant and using it as a base of operations. You'll be able to find tools, spare spools of wire, vehicles, gasoline and other goodies. I know the bridge I film under is also right by the waterworks pressure hub to this area. I have talked with water workers and do know for a fact they keep generators, tools, all sorts of stuff in that little building and I for one will be targeting it almost right away. Those workers will likely be dead or running somewhere and WON'T be showing up to work a job that isn't paying for a boss that is no longer there.
I don't think there are any stupid questions, only stupid responses and knee-jerk reactions. Calling another member a stupid kid or telling him he's dumb for asking what seems to be a valid question isn't at all like us at prepperforums-net. Do try and take it easy on the users if you would.
You are right there is no stupid question. But there are a lot of inquisitive idiots out there. Sometimes it is the inquisitive idiots that give the answers.I don't think there are any stupid questions, only stupid responses and knee-jerk reactions. Calling another member a stupid kid or telling him he's dumb for asking what seems to be a valid question isn't at all like us at prepperforums-net. Do try and take it easy on the users if you would.