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I recently bought a box of these.

I had very decent groupings with them, I.E. less than 2 inches at 172 yards, not trying very hard from a picnic table.

I shot a couple of ground hogs with them and there was no expansion, it passed right through. The hogs were dragging off into the brush.

For the price Great for target, not a hunting round
 

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Their service is so bad, I'm not sure I'd go to one of their stores if they were giving guns away.

You cannot trust mail order from a company you cannot trust in person.
 
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