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I have a chance to get an M9 at a very good price. It feels "right" in my hands.

I've read both good and bad reviews. It'll be sparingly used, only to "plink" with. I wouldn't expect it to take down an intruder. I'd get a .40 or .45 for that.

I just want a trouble free gun. No maintenance besides cleaning.

I have not had a chance to fire it. It's brand new, so it hasn't been abused by previous owners.

I'll be getting it and 1110 rounds of ammo for $800.

Worth it? Or more trouble then its worth?
 

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Beretta makes excellent firearms in my experience.

NOT a fan of 9mm myself, but the M9 is a great gun, and the most modern of 9mm ammo is much more impressive stuff for stopping humans without over penetrating quite so bad.

Nice gun imo. They usually sell for around $550-$600 by themselves I think.

You could buy here as well. http://www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.aspx?Keywords=m9

Many gun shops only charge $25 for a transfer fee. Those that charge $50 are just being greedy turds, and I'm far less likely to give them any business at all knowing that's their policy.
 

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There the best pistol I've found for my needs over the years and are top quality in my experience. I carry one everyday and have for a long time now. They fit my hands very well also, the controls are comfortable and well placed, they've been unflinching reliable and very accurate for me. I have an M9 myself, but carry my 92FS mostly. There's little difference between the two other than minor frame cuts and the lettering on the side. Logostically there are tons of holsters out there for them being the military standard issue pistol and parts and magazine to go with them.
 

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I'm not a fan of the M9 personally, but that's mostly due to the caliber, and bad experiences with ones beat to hell we have in the Army. Mags are the Achilles' Heel of the Beretta, so make sure you get good ones. If I was going to go with a 90-series, I'd pick up a 96A1. Same frame and set up as the M9, but in .40 S&W.
 

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I would say take a look at what professionals are using people that get to pick what gun they use at work. I never see anyone want the M9 in the arms room they are instantly traded out for glocks sigs and colts although the ammo seems like a good deal or maybe just to sweeten the pot enough to sell a gun that wouldnt otherwise.
 

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I'm not a fan of the M9 personally, but that's mostly due to the caliber, and bad experiences with ones beat to hell we have in the Army. Mags are the Achilles' Heel of the Beretta, so make sure you get good ones. If I was going to go with a 90-series, I'd pick up a 96A1. Same frame and set up as the M9, but in .40 S&W.
The Brigadier or as I called it, "The Italian Tomahawk!" The pistol is great in 9mm, as a .40, it doesn't hold up. As my issued duty weapon,in 5 years I went thru 3 96's and all due to stress fractures in the frame.
The Navy Seals had a saying about the 96, "You ain't quite a SEAL until you have been hit by Italian steel!" This was because of the 96's bad habit of the slide coming off the broken frame rail and hitting you in the face.
 

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The Brigadier or as I called it, "The Italian Tomahawk!" The pistol is great in 9mm, as a .40, it doesn't hold up. As my issued duty weapon,in 5 years I went thru 3 96's and all due to stress fractures in the frame.
The Navy Seals had a saying about the 96, "You ain't quite a SEAL until you have been hit by Italian steel!" This was because of the 96's bad habit of the slide coming off the broken frame rail and hitting you in the face.
Early 92s/M9s had the same problem (was one of the reasons for the M10 tests). Never heard of SEALs using 96s, interesting.
 

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Early 92s/M9s had the same problem (was one of the reasons for the M10 tests). Never heard of SEALs using 96s, interesting.
All the federal agencies 96's ended up over in Iraq for the Iraq police to use. I believe that is were the SEAL story came from. We switched to the H&K P2000.
 

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People have been dieing of splinters too since before the year 0 doesnt mean I wanna wait for sepsis to off someone and the longest bowshot in history is much further than a 9mm round will travel so????
 

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I would say take a look at what professionals are using people that get to pick what gun they use at work. I never see anyone want the M9 in the arms room they are instantly traded out for glocks sigs and colts although the ammo seems like a good deal or maybe just to sweeten the pot enough to sell a gun that wouldnt otherwise.
This. I think the M9 is a serviceable side arm, but I too have never seen anyone in the armory who got to choose their weapon pick one. I don't really mind 9mm so much as they never really fit my hand, and I always had the choice of a 1911, which won hands down for me. I do like me some Sig in 9mm though.

All that being said, if the pistol is new and the ammo isn't cheap ass steel cased stuff the price is pretty good, and the 92/9M will likely do anything you ever ask of it out here in the world.
 

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I'll ask about the ammo. I think he said Winchester? And some federal. Waiting on an email back.

So it looks like I might get it then :)

Then maybe next year I can get a .40.

I've been looking at a fcp10(?) from turners in a .308 for a long rifle. I love my .22 and was going to get a .22 revolver but I'm having a hard time finding .22LR.

Thanks guys for the suggestions. And if the ammo is of decent quality, then it sounds like a go :)
 

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I carry one every day as an armed professional and so do various guys I work with. Just because one person hasn't seen something, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. The Seal mishap was early in the stage of the M9 issue and happened in part as I know it because they used sub rounds way too hot also and against specification for the pistol and beat the frame to shit it wasn't design for. Either way, Beretta modified the hammer pin to be an extra stop and it did stop it. I never saw one fly back or explode in the Army. Military weapons are the most abused weapons out there either way and why I don't put too much stock comparing in what happens with them. If you issue it, Joe will break it, was an old saying I remember.

If you look at any of the quality pistols out there, there's someone who had one jam constantly, blow a barrel on them or fall apart in some way. That doesn't mean on average there not a good pistol, just that there what they are. A machine made by humans, which means it's eventually going to break something somewhere as after all, it was not made by a God thrown down from the heavens or a mountain, no matter flavor koolaid someone drinks. Lots of people love Glocks for example but you don't have to search hard to find a story of an exploded, unsupported chamber and a gif of a Glock grenade. Lots of people love 1911's, but you don't have to search hard to find someone calling it a jammomatic or a Youtube video of someone shooting one, constantly jamming.
 

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i'll ask about the ammo. I think he said winchester? And some federal. Waiting on an email back.

So it looks like i might get it then :)

then maybe next year i can get a .40.

I've been looking at a fcp10(?) from turners in a .308 for a long rifle. I love my .22 and was going to get a .22 revolver but i'm having a hard time finding .22lr.

Thanks guys for the suggestions. And if the ammo is of decent quality, then it sounds like a go :)
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I have said before that what the government isn't always a testament to the quality of an item because after all it is the lowest bidder. The Beretta issued to the military and federal agencies is not the same quality Beretta sold in gun shops to consumers. In my agencies case I believe it was more the type of ammo that we used. Our issued duty ammo was Federal 155 grain .40 JHP and if you have ever fired this round you know it's hot. The load data is closer to a 10mm. We experienced the same problem with our H&K's. They were only lasting about 6,000 rounds so we changed to 180 grain.
 

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I have said before that what the government isn't always a testament to the quality of an item because after all it is the lowest bidder. The Beretta issued to the military and federal agencies is not the same quality Beretta sold in gun shops to consumers. In my agencies case I believe it was more the type of ammo that we used. Our issued duty ammo was Federal 155 grain .40 JHP and if you have ever fired this round you know it's hot. The load data is closer to a 10mm. We experienced the same problem with our H&K's. They were only lasting about 6,000 rounds so we changed to 180 grain.
As far as I know the military is still using Gen 2 and in some cases Gen 1 locking blocks on some M9's still. Civilian versions are into Gen 3's now and have a service life of about 20,000 rounds. You're spot on about a military firearm not being a testament to quality in my experience either. And any gun, if you use ammo too hot for what it was designed to take, it's going to have a shorter life. I also change my springs out on all my Beretta's using a lighter hammer spring to lighten the pull but than a stronger chrome silicon recoil spring to counter what was taken away and keep the frame from being battered more.
 

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The reason given by the Marines had more to do with reliability and service life then it did ballistics.
Whatever. They want 1911's, than get them 1911's. Giving our warriors the tools they feel comfortable with to get the job done, protect their lives and protect this country is one of those things I'm happy to see tax money used for. Not to say it can't be wasted, but quality rifles and pistols are a front line item and well worth the money. If they think 1911's are better for them, than so be it.
 
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