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with the current international revival of Putin's Russia - and the end of the US apathy and Trump's confrontation - a nuke war and the possibility of nuke weapon use is higher currently than since the early 1980s and the old USSR days ....

SurvivalBlog has published a 3part article submitted by an outside author >>>> it's a glossing over - just a primary introduction of what basics you should know and investigate more deeply - a topic that's only a paragraph mention is a vital subject that's covered by a whole chapter in the nuke survival bibles of Dr Clayton and Kearny ....

https://survivalblog.com/nuclear-war-wont-like-hollywood-portrays-part-1-3adscout/print/

https://survivalblog.com/nuclear-war-wont-like-hollywood-portrays-part-2-3adscout/print/

https://survivalblog.com/nuclear-war-wont-like-hollywood-portrays-part-3-3adscout/print/

if you're just getting started - haven't broached the SHTF subject of nuke survival (it's not only a war possibility) - already mentioned are the couple of "grand dads" on the subject that authored the best ever books on the subject >>> here's a free PDF download of their books - a full hardback copy is advised - certain pages should be copied and cached as reference guides to necessary survival knowledge ....

http://www.ki4u.com/nwss.pdf

http://armageddononline.org/PDF/Misc Books/LIFE AFTER DOOMSDAY.pdf

if you get into the SHTF - one of the types that database every possible piece of info available - a fellow prepper has already done the hard part for us - Rich Fleetwood is really the guru on the subject and his website is the depository - SurvivalRing.org has it all for downloading ...

Rich has had some problems in the last few years - would really appreciate a donation contribution for keeping the website alive & available .....

http://www.survivalring.org/
 

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@Illini Warrior good post. I'm bookmarking it so I can go back to read this when I have the time. There's a lot of information. Living in the Tri-State area, there might not be too much hope for me. I should think anything near NYC would be leveled to the ground in the event of a nuclear holocaust. But I'm open to learning more.

A little off topic, but something Rich might want to consider:
With the release of Chrome 68, Google is officially marking ALL websites who don't use "HTTPS" for their website domain as "not secure". This prevents websites from being SEO friendly. This "not secure" message pops up in the address bar. He might want to consider enabling the SSL on his website, then republish.
 

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Annie, there's an old saying that when the government rolls out a new jet plane, they are already seven years ahead of the technology you just saw.

Sure, they once had trouble cracking a smart phone, but it looks like most providers are now offering "help" to the government. I believe that if you put something on the 'net--even something so skilled and foolproof that Kim Komando can't figure it out--there's a post-cracker in the Pentagon that just got a secret copy.
 

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@Illini Warrior good post. I'm bookmarking it so I can go back to read this when I have the time. There's a lot of information. Living in the Tri-State area, there might not be too much hope for me. I should think anything near NYC would be leveled to the ground in the event of a nuclear holocaust. But I'm open to learning more.

A little off topic, but something Rich might want to consider:
With the release of Chrome 68, Google is officially marking ALL websites who don't use "HTTPS" for their website domain as "not secure". This prevents websites from being SEO friendly. This "not secure" message pops up in the address bar. He might want to consider enabling the SSL on his website, then republish.
a problem I see frequently in prepping - a partial crowd that just throws up their hands and surrenders when the nuke SHTF topic pops up ...

unfortunately nuke prepping is solely perceived as preparing with a bunker for a nuke war exchange of missiles ...

we've already had a couple of incidents of the serious - but totally surviable - nuke accidents >>>> the US even came close decades ago

all kinds of possible nuke SHTFs that the basic prep supplies will be necessary >>> if you want to be ahead of the sheeple scramble - you'll have the basic nuke prep supplies as well ...
 

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a problem I see frequently in prepping - a partial crowd that just throws up their hands and surrenders when the nuke SHTF topic pops up ...

unfortunately nuke prepping is solely perceived as preparing with a bunker for a nuke war exchange of missiles ...

we've already had a couple of incidents of the serious - but totally surviable - nuke accidents >>>> the US even came close decades ago

all kinds of possible nuke SHTFs that the basic prep supplies will be necessary >>> if you want to be ahead of the sheeple scramble - you'll have the basic nuke prep supplies as well ...
In general I have to have the ability to look realistically at the situation in the world as it stands, but not without hope. That hope is what motivates me to prepare.
 

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Annie, Mel Tappan wrote several books on the early days of prepping. I don't even think it was called that then.

One thing you'll find is that he tracked wind movements, looking for the areas of the country that would have the lowest fall-out count.

If memory serves, he settled in Eugene, Oregon, where he died, I believe.
 

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Annie, there's an old saying that when the government rolls out a new jet plane, they are already seven years ahead of the technology you just saw.

Sure, they once had trouble cracking a smart phone, but it looks like most providers are now offering "help" to the government. I believe that if you put something on the 'net--even something so skilled and foolproof that Kim Komando can't figure it out--there's a post-cracker in the Pentagon that just got a secret copy.
If I'm understanding you correctly, it's not so much about that type of security that Google's concerning itself with here. Not the government... It's more about preventing the nasty little guys out their on the interwebs who like to hijack websites and redirect people to their own, that type of thing.

https://support.google.com/blogger/answer/6284029?hl=en
There are three main benefits to using HTTPS instead of HTTP to access your blog:

-It helps check that your visitors open the correct website and aren't being redirected to a malicious site.
-It helps detect if an attacker tries to change any data sent from Blogger [and other sites] to the visitor.
-It adds security measures that make it harder for other people to listen to your visitors' conversations, track their activities, or steal their information.
 

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Annie, Mel Tappan wrote several books on the early days of prepping. I don't even think it was called that then.

One thing you'll find is that he tracked wind movements, looking for the areas of the country that would have the lowest fall-out count.

If memory serves, he settled in Eugene, Oregon, where he died, I believe.
These were some good reads as I recall:

Hiroshima Paperback
by John Hersey

Alas, Babylon
by Pat Frank
 

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These were some good reads as I recall:

Hiroshima Paperback
by John Hersey

Alas, Babylon
by Pat Frank
Alas, Babylon is a great book, even if it is not necessarily realistic about the outcome of nuclear war. On The Beach is a good one with what I consider to be a more likely end. Last Ship is another with some interesting outcomes.
 

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@Illini Warrior good post. I'm bookmarking it so I can go back to read this when I have the time. There's a lot of information. Living in the Tri-State area, there might not be too much hope for me. I should think anything near NYC would be leveled to the ground in the event of a nuclear holocaust. But I'm open to learning more.

A little off topic, but something Rich might want to consider:
With the release of Chrome 68, Google is officially marking ALL websites who don't use "HTTPS" for their website domain as "not secure". This prevents websites from being SEO friendly. This "not secure" message pops up in the address bar. He might want to consider enabling the SSL on his website, then republish.
I just "stuck" this thread. It won't get buried.
 

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Annie, Mel Tappan wrote several books on the early days of prepping. I don't even think it was called that then.

One thing you'll find is that he tracked wind movements, looking for the areas of the country that would have the lowest fall-out count.

If memory serves, he settled in Eugene, Oregon, where he died, I believe.
most of the charts and maps concerning the nuke warfare are totally obsolete - most are from the nuke hay days of the 1960-70s - targets change for various reasons - the global politics alone have drastically altered targeting - and there's more precise targeted nukes around than ever ....
 

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Turning a basement into a safe room for either a nuclear event or a tornado... Check out this guys faux panty. Awesome. It looks like a panty, but you can push the doors open and go downstairs.

 

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Here's a pretty awesome do it yourself idea. I bet my brother would do this with me. Think of what it would cost to have this built by a professional.

 

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Not sure I would like to survive a nuclear holocaust
trouble is that a prepper prepares for a "nuclear event" and not just a full nuke exchange >>>> and the world has experienced several major events that were/could be eazily survived - latest in Japan ...

quite a bit of crossover prepping between pandemics and nukes - definitely would be prepared for the very probable disease spread during a serious SHTF ....
 

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trouble is that a prepper prepares for a "nuclear event" and not just a full nuke exchange >>>> and the world has experienced several major events that were/could be eazily survived - latest in Japan ...

quite a bit of crossover prepping between pandemics and nukes - definitely would be prepared for the very probable disease spread during a serious SHTF ....
A full exchange no... but even if our ao was near it be total loss.
 

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most of the charts and maps concerning the nuke warfare are totally obsolete - most are from the nuke hay days of the 1960-70s
This is good to know. But in viewing the works of Mr. Tappan, obviously he lived--and died--in the period you mention. Perhaps a new dedicated prepper should view his work and update it for modern citizens.

Just the new technology would take up most of this book. For example, while gasoline might be scarce in "Dystopia America," we now have portable generators for all-electric cars. We have modern crossbows that break +400 FPS. Any idiot can buy bulletproof vests.

I have "common" knives that can punch through any medium you can name. Most of these alloys were owned and used exclusively by the government until recently. Heck, I sell this stuff, and I cannot figure out these mystery, super metals.

For example, I just bought a few super fast folders. If I could get into a time machine and go back to the 1960s, the fanboys would marvel at the display. I pay only 40 bucks for these toys, which converts to under four dollars in that time period.

My point is simple. Time marches on, and technology doubles every four years. We need a modern version of Mr. Tappan.
 

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This is good to know. But in viewing the works of Mr. Tappan, obviously he lived--and died--in the period you mention. Perhaps a new dedicated prepper should view his work and update it for modern citizens.

Just the new technology would take up most of this book. For example, while gasoline might be scarce in "Dystopia America," we now have portable generators for all-electric cars. We have modern crossbows that break +400 FPS. Any idiot can buy bulletproof vests.

I have "common" knives that can punch through any medium you can name. Most of these alloys were owned and used exclusively by the government until recently. Heck, I sell this stuff, and I cannot figure out these mystery, super metals.

For example, I just bought a few super fast folders. If I could get into a time machine and go back to the 1960s, the fanboys would marvel at the display. I pay only 40 bucks for these toys, which converts to under four dollars in that time period.

My point is simple. Time marches on, and technology doubles every four years. We need a modern version of Mr. Tappan.
it's not only technology but just change in policy and tactics to update for current world situations - the USAF ended the full alert SAC bombers years ago >>> now they are back again with an even more aggressive strike program .... NORAD moved out of Cheyenne Mt for years and with the new Russian aggression did a full facility technology update and moved to the underside again ...

what was recently laughable - the Russians recently threaten us with a nuke strike - at least two of the targets were years/decade out of date closed down military bases >>>> even they aren't up to date with the propaganda ....
 

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it's not only technology but just change in policy and tactics to update for current world situations
@Illini Warrior, I'm glad you post as you do. You are quite correct, I'm more on the "technology" side of the aisle. If a guy wanted a knife that could punch through Kevlar and never rust in his lifetime, I could probably find that prepper an easy half-dozen.

Now, what I am not familiar with is tactics and modern situations. For example, Wisconsin has a fairly 'liberal' (and I mean that in its best sense) policy for weapons, including a CCW provision and making switchblades legal for over +2 years. In fact, I just read an article in the latest "Blade" magazine about the Draconian measures New York City has for any folder the law deems as a 'switchblade.' That includes gravity knives and any other folder that can be opened with a flick of the wrist. Heck, most older and worn folders will flip open. They made it sound like the State was using folders as a "cash cow." Find a guy with a folder--even if he uses it for working--and you have a quick and easy fine due the court.

I read that article with a legal switchblade in my pocket.
 
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