[Juggernaut]

Today I was reading the paper and the main story was about North Korea and its continuing defiance towards the United States in developing it's nuclear program. What are your predictions about North Korea's future? Will the U.N decide to level them before it's too late or will some type of peaceful resolution be made? If Los angeles gets hit I will see you on the other side :roll:

 

[bennettvm]

They send us a threat almost every 4-5 months. Kind of an odd relationship. They are starving, so they make a threat and then the UN/US gives them supplies or whatever to keep them happy for the time being. The people need to rise up there and take over. The same way they did in East Germany, etc.

 

[Montana Rancher]

You called that exactly right bennettvm, whenever they rattle thier sabre it means they want more humanitarian aid.

Communism works so well

 

[rickkyw1720pf]

They send us a threat almost every 4-5 months. Kind of an odd relationship. They are starving, so they make a threat and then the UN/US gives them supplies or whatever to keep them happy for the time being. The people need to rise up there and take over. The same way they did in East Germany, etc.

Your right but the one reason they don't rise up is because we keep sending them food supplies then they remark it with their own label and distribute it to the people. We were crazy not to destroy their nuclear facilities long ago when they didn't keep up with their end of the bargain. With North Korea the appeasement goes back years. Just a couple acts of war that I can remember that they got away with Killing three of our soldiers in the DMZ, blowing up a South Korean airliner, sending a special team to assassinate the president of South Korea, kidnapping Japanese citizens and making them train their spies, seizing the USS Pueblo an american ship. Killing South Korean's with an artillery barrage,torpedoing of South Korean navel ship. I am sure I am missing a lot more but these just came to me.
I would say appeasement does pretty good for them. Sense we are technically at war with them, sending them food should be an act of treason.

 

[PrepperThyAngus]

Their people are not going to rise up. I've seen several documentaries on NK and even though their people are severely malnourished, they still praise the Kim Jong family as saviors of Korea and warship them like Gods. The entire country truly believes that America's spend everyday planning the next nuclear strike on NK. They are so brainwashed and the entire country is literally a huge prison camp. They hate Americans and think we are completely overwhelmed with thoughts of nuking NK.

I'm not sure what needs to be done to resolve this issue and I don't think anyone does. Its really up to Kim Jong Un.

 

[CourtSwagger]

Luckily, Dennis Rodman was able to go over and show just how sane we as Americans are.

 

[Juggernaut]

Why not mimic what was done with Bin Laden?

 

[Pir8fan]

They were threatening to nuke Washington, DC. If they'd wait until there was a full house of Congress, they'd be doing us a big favor.

 

[AsteroidX]

We need to take this one out before he gets an heir. I hate to say it but the way I see it we have 2 choices. Pull out of South Korea and leave them to there own devices and to a larger degree that will result in conflict between China and Japan. Or take this turd out before he gets an heir. I dont really see a middle ground on this one. If he disavows the armistice we should show him what B-52's feel like for a few weeks. Then see if hes willing to talk. But yeah NK is much more dangerous then Iran is by a tenfold.

They have no capability to nuke American anything unless they walk it over the Mexican border. We DO have a very nice missile defense system in the Pacific. The problem is South Korea and they are the ones that will become victims of this regime.

I hate to see this happening because that region is becoming more unstable by the week.

 

[AsteroidX]

And you think China would idly sit and watch us bomb NK?

Its turning into a cluster**** over there with these Japan/Chinese relations tipping over the stability. NK is just an agitator.

Unfortunately anything done around the Korean peninsula has to come with Chinas blessing and we owe them to much money to complain. When I go to the store it usually says made in China not South Korea.

By the way these sanctions are pathetic:

The resolution specifies some luxury items North Korea's elite is not allowed to import, such as yachts, racing cars, luxury automobiles and certain types of jewelry. This is intended to close a loophole that had allowed countries to decide for themselves what constitutes a luxury good.

"These sanctions will bite and bite hard," said U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice.

 

[Juggernaut]

I read that china is strongly urging NK to listen to obama before it gets ugly.

 

[GTGallop]

North Korea is a financing their arsenal through threats.
They can not amass the military strength they want and keep their people fed. Just like the USSR some one is going to suffer so that the state, as an entity, can have more. So instead of showing the world how good Communism / Socialism can be (I don't agree with either method of govt) by feeding and clothing their people - they punish their people and develop arms because they know the US will bail them out with China and Germany's money.

It is the old guns v butter argument. You CAN have both if you extort money for food out of a third party that can't set a budget and borrows that money from other nations.

So I guess Kim Jong Un owes a big Danke to Germany.

 

[alterego]

Susan Rice and John Kerry have changed our level of condemnation of the North Korean development of nuclear weapons from, "condemned" to "strongly condemned".

I am happy to see that this administration is getting serious.

 

[alterego]

Their people are not going to rise up. I've seen several documentaries on NK and even though their people are severely malnourished, they still praise the Kim Jong family as saviors of Korea and warship them like Gods. The entire country truly believes that America's spend everyday planning the next nuclear strike on NK. They are so brainwashed and the entire country is literally a huge prison camp. They hate Americans and think we are completely overwhelmed with thoughts of nuking NK.

I'm not sure what needs to be done to resolve this issue and I don't think anyone does. Its really up to Kim Jong Un.

I have been on several differant forums, and seen many differant commentaries at the bottom of news articles where Nuke them was exactly the sentiment being conveyed as a means to deal with them. All of my dad's friends who were Korea war era guys all believed we should have killed them all, so If N.K. has people reading posts on web forums, news articles or commentaries off the internet, they would think all we wanted to do was destroy them.

If N.K. had been imposing sanctions on the US since the 50's and had isolated the US from free trade with Mexico and Canada, and our population was starving because of it, I would refer to them as the agressor, and hate them as well.

Funny how we are so one sided with our thoughts.

 

[alterego]

So,ya think we should blow NK away?

By the time this administration finishes it's second term, North Korea will have balistic capable missle technology enough to reach our main land, the president and his idiots will claim that they have complied and the terms of the sanctions will have expired. Iran will have completed their research and purchase balistics from N.K.

Susan Rice and John Kerry will change the condemnation from strongly condemned to, hey we seriously condemn these actions dude.

And I will have completed my bomb shelter.

 

[Smitty901]

I would like to See NK roll a test missile out on the pad now.

 

[alterego]

I would like to See NK roll a test missile out on the pad now.

Very wise comment,

It would be interesting to say the least.

 

[alterego]

So,you think a lousy few rockets can get through our defenses from 6,000(?) miles away? Or 10,000 from Iran?

I do not believe we currently have anti missle batteries currently deployed, we would have very quickly after the first mistle came in, but I do not believe we have a system currently deployed.

 

[Smitty901]

What would YOU do?

Soon as it rolled out launch 1 well programed Cruise missile to the site.
Obama just might Not many Muslims in NK

 

[Fuzzee]

They don't have the balls. I dare em. Bomb the crap out of Washington you bastards if you got the sack for it. I dare ya. :mrgreen: