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My dear Brothers and Sisters,

There are dark and ominous clouds that will be confronting us as a people as a species of human being from within and from without that will try to destroy us and enslave the rest , this struggle will transcend economics , education, color creed and national origins, it will be global. Unlike other great historical wars for territory and power this fight will be for our very existents, it will be a war waged against humanity itself...

My sincerest wish is to be incorrect and proved wrong...

That being said , prepare use this forum to the fullest a lot of great folks and survival information is available here...

God Bless and keep you all ...

Elia Cid
 

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I've been saying the same thing for years, but I am referring to the TV set. Save the county, club a TV.
 

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My dear Brothers and Sisters,
There are dark and ominous clouds that will be confronting us as a people as a species of human being from within and from without that will try to destroy us and enslave the rest , this struggle will transcend economics , education, color creed and national origins, it will be global. Unlike other great historical wars for territory and power this fight will be for our very existents, it will be a war waged against humanity itself.
Yes, there's a spiritual sickness out there infecting thousands that's anti-everything decent and honourable-
"For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms" (Bible:Ephesians 6:12)
"Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour" (1 John 2:18 )


 

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OKAY, what insight can you give us?
There's a lot to cover: I just touch on governments..

Mindful that earth is an individual , in the wake of natures revulsion , natural disasters will come to soften the very earth we stand on for what is to come , the time and date I know not ,but it will topple governments demonstrating that they cannot care for their people or even care ...

We need to start by changing our mind set about the government ,banks , authorities who we pay taxes to in general ,think of them as cartels that have an endless supply of money called taxes that are using the very tax dollars we give them to control and enslave us with laws like the Patriot Act , using police agencies as enforcers and the military to keep them in power...

Our politicians have long stopped being of service to our great nation , greed corruption now rule our government making these politicians a permeate ruling class that writes their own laws and passes bills in the middle of the night to enrich themselves , the two party system is a sham , your vote counts for noting other than fooling you in that it matters, they have sold us out internationally and foreign cartels now make US policies, these politicians in the first major nature disaster will cut and run , leaving us to our fate...

We have got to but are arms around the fact that our government is permanently broken , the politicians are not our friends and do not represent us ,that this government has become a living thing with its own agenda and survival in mind not ours ...

The first thing we need to do as a nation is find ways of cutting off the food supply called taxes ...The days of governmental systems like the ones we have become accustom to are obsolete ...The when and the how that will replace them I know not ...

That being said , we come from the stars , we are made of star stuff , we walk on stars , our destiny is in the stars...

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Take out the second paragraph and the last sentence and I can agree. Those two parts only feed into my first reply! :mrgreen:
 

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Take out the second paragraph and the last sentence and I can agree. Those two parts only feed into my first reply! :mrgreen:
There nothing new under the sun as the old saying goes , glad we agree on some parts that being said, what I wrote I will not change any of it ... As for the last sentence take off your shoes crinkle your toes and look at the bottom of your feet and you will see a star...
 

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There nothing new under the sun as the old saying goes , glad we agree on some parts that being said, what I wrote I will not change any of it ... As for the last sentence take off your shoes crinkle your toes and look at the bottom of your feet and you will see a star...
I wouldn't have you change a thing you wrote for anything under the star...er...sun.
As far as the bottom of your foot, you can look at other parts of the body and find other things, too. As for me, I look to the cross. Gene Roddenberry or George Lucas might not agree, but that is OK.

Hey, we agree on something else! Ecclesiastes 1:9!

What has been is what will be,
and what has been done is what will be done,
and there is nothing new under the sun
That's why I don't blindly fall into the old trap of the "New" age religions.

Now, to the business of making the government behave in a constitutional manner. I am open to suggestions on that very thought. The only thing I can figure that will cause that to happen is a nation-wide resistance to the tyranny that is commandeering our government. Problem is, many of our fellow countrymen are embracing this thing. It is going to be too late when they realize they will get nothing but oppression at the end of the day.
 

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Since there is nothing new under the stars, we should know that nukes were used before in ancient times, and the "Locusts" were real back then too.
 

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I wouldn't have you change a thing you wrote for anything under the star...er...sun.
As far as the bottom of your foot, you can look at other parts of the body and find other things, too. As for me, I look to the cross. Gene Roddenberry or George Lucas might not agree, but that is OK.

Hey, we agree on something else! Ecclesiastes 1:9!

That's why I don't blindly fall into the old trap of the "New" age religions.

Now, to the business of making the government behave in a constitutional manner. I am open to suggestions on that very thought. The only thing I can figure that will cause that to happen is a nation-wide resistance to the tyranny that is commandeering our government. Problem is, many of our fellow countrymen are embracing this thing. It is going to be too late when they realize they will get nothing but oppression at the end of the day.
Denton ,
The notion that any an everything can be justify under national security is a sure recipe for tyranny...
That individuals working for the government are immune puts them above the law and all of us below the law .
That the few can write laws to protect and in rich themselves while making the rest criminals' ...
That no discloser can be made of there doings while in office is madness...

For starters:
1.There must be a contract made with the electorate with recall power if not honored ...
2. Real third party reform...
3. Real term limits it's not a job for life...
4. Full discloser not 50 years after leaving office...
5. Full lobbying discloser from corporation and banks...
6. Full discloser of military contractors and politician and us military personnel ...
7. Cleaning out the State Department , fresh blood ,they do not represent the average American. ..
8. Discloser of secret agencies what they are doing and who they are working for...
9. Political miss doing and white collar finical miss doing punishable as real crimes...
10. Repeal the Patriot Act ...
11. Investigate any white flag involvement with the dead sentence for any found guilty...
 

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I have another idea. Why don't we go back to the constitution? You know, that old, dusty document that was penned in order to provide a cage for the federal government. We shove that monster back into the cage, we do away with all the federal agencies and their federal regulations that control the citizens' daily lives, and we place responsibility back in the hands of the states and their citizens.

Simple, no? I believe this way to be better than to get caught up with straw-man issues, like the ones you presented. Such things are how they keep us entertained in their politics rather than noticing how we are being stripped of our liberties.
 

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I have another idea. Why don't we go back to the constitution? You know, that old, dusty document that was penned in order to provide a cage for the federal government. We shove that monster back into the cage, we do away with all the federal agencies and their federal regulations that control the citizens' daily lives, and we place responsibility back in the hands of the states and their citizens.

Simple, no? I believe this way to be better than to get caught up with straw-man issues, like the ones you presented. Such things are how they keep us entertained in their politics rather than noticing how we are being stripped of our liberties.
Denton ,
I basically agree with you, but I just had to put it out there to avoid saying ,the harsh truth ...

That so much blood and suffering would have to be spilled to resurrect the constitution to its original status that we may as will start from scratch, that the notion of this is plainly too scary for most folks to deal with the uncertainty , chaos and darkness that will surly follow ...

The lesson here is don't create or write anything that is above the level of a nation of people, human beings functioning collectively at or below the level of adolescents to fully comprehend and respect such a great document and concepts when greed and self-interest rules their existence ...
 

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Then if that be the case, we are not fit only for tyranny.
That is what the world is going to see, anyway. He said it, I believe it and that settles it for me.
 

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Maybe part of the problem is that we have allowed those people "functioning...at or below the level of adolescents" to participate in our elections to begin with. The franchise was not originally intended to be for everyone. You would not give a five-year-old a loaded shotgun so why would you allow someone equally incompetent at life to have a say in anything important? This, in my opinion, is what has pretty much destroyed this country.
 

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