[AquaHull]

The central elements of a hard-fought compromise appeared in place: more than $300 billion in aid to businesses; a $300-per-week bonus federal jobless benefit and renewal of soon-to-expire state benefits; $600 direct payments to individuals; vaccine distribution funds and money for renters, schools, the Postal Service and people needing food aid.

https://www.baltimoresun.com/corona...0201217-2brt7qd6rfhcdnq6yqot3bq5ty-story.html

 

[MountainGirl]

The central elements of a hard-fought compromise appeared in place: more than $300 billion in aid to businesses; a $300-per-week bonus federal jobless benefit and renewal of soon-to-expire state benefits; $600 direct payments to individuals; vaccine distribution funds and money for renters, schools, the Postal Service and people needing food aid.

https://www.baltimoresun.com/corona...0201217-2brt7qd6rfhcdnq6yqot3bq5ty-story.html

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Read this morning on Newsmax, one of the sticking points is the sunset clause in the Cares Act passed in March, which is the method money can be transferred to Citizens and Businesses - and was supposed to expire. The dems want the expiration Clause taken out, or extended to 2026, so they can use that method to continue to send money to the public (under the guise of covid), rather than a separate bill to give Basic Income to Americans...which wouldn't pass. Sneaky fkrs.

https://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/a...balmacr&year=2020&month=12&date=17&id=1002077

 

[stevekozak]

Read this morning on Newsmax, one of the sticking points is the sunset clause in the Cares Act passed in March, which is the method money can be transferred to Citizens and Businesses - and was supposed to expire. The dems want the expiration Clause taken out, or extended to 2026, so they can use that method to continue to send money to the public (under the guise of covid), rather than a separate bill to give Basic Income to Americans...which wouldn't pass. Sneaky fkrs.

I would like to stimulate their socialist asses via a cattle prod up their backsides. Hell, as messed up as they are, they would probably just enjoy it, though. :vs_frown:

 

[1skrewsloose]

I'm not too keen on these stimulus plans. During a normal year folks would find a way to make it on unemployment, they've done it before.
I did accept the first one, but if we have another and Trump doesn't make it, the Dems will squawk look at the deficit, we need to raise taxes and blame Trump/Republicans even tho they signed off on it too.

I really wish I could be glad to get free money, but I feel for my daughter and those around her age(24) that will have to pay the majority of it through taxes.

 

[dwight55]

I guess I'm just dumb or something.

How is this ever going to be repaid???

We got 330 million folks in this place . . . and I read not long ago that only about half have jobs. That's 165 million.

If 165 million folks paid 25K$ a year income taxes on the average . . . that's only 4T$ . . . and in 2019 we spent that and then some.

So how do we retire this 35T$ debt we now have???

May God bless,
Dwight

 

[MountainGirl]

I guess I'm just dumb or something.

So how do we retire this 35T$ debt we now have???

We dont, and you're not dumb.

 

[SGG]

Summed up, it's FUBAR

 

[65mustang]

$600 per individual? BFD.

 

[hawgrider]

$600 per individual? BFD.

Exactly! That won't even cover my Bourbon expenses since the last chump change of my tax money they sent in May or June when ever it was.

 

[stowlin]

If you get that $600 I recommend ammo, silver, canned goods, etc...

 

[MountainGirl]

$600 per individual? BFD.

It is if you live on $618 a month. :tango_face_wink:

 

[AquaHull]

Exactly! That won't even cover my Bourbon expenses since the last chump change of my tax money they sent in May or June when ever it was.

I'm still waiting for my Fed refund.

 

[AquaHull]

It is if you live on $618 a month. :tango_face_wink:

If I quit heating my barn / deer blind / mancave, quit beer, turn the heat down, then $650 is doable.

 

[MountainGirl]

If I quit heating my barn / deer blind / mancave, quit beer, turn the heat down, then $650 is doable.

Quit beer? You?? :vs_shocked: LOL

Yeah, it took a lot of planning, work and all our savings to get to the point of no bills, no debt. AND if that $618/mo ever stopped? That'd be okay too, cause what we spend it on we don't need. :vs_cool:

 

[inceptor]

I'm not too keen on these stimulus plans. During a normal year folks would find a way to make it on unemployment, they've done it before.
I did accept the first one, but if we have another and Trump doesn't make it, the Dems will squawk look at the deficit, we need to raise taxes and blame Trump/Republicans even tho they signed off on it too.

I really wish I could be glad to get free money, but I feel for my daughter and those around her age(24) that will have to pay the majority of it through taxes.

I guess I'm just dumb or something.

How is this ever going to be repaid???

We got 330 million folks in this place . . . and I read not long ago that only about half have jobs. That's 165 million.

If 165 million folks paid 25K$ a year income taxes on the average . . . that's only 4T$ . . . and in 2019 we spent that and then some.

So how do we retire this 35T$ debt we now have???

May God bless,
Dwight

It's not meant to be repaid. Once we hit what they conceive as the bottom, the UN steps in to save the world with the Great Reset. A digital monetary system with wealth redistribution and a guaranteed income for all. You will own nothing and be happy.

 

[AquaHull]

Quit beer? You?? :vs_shocked: LOL

Yeah, it took a lot of planning, work and all our savings to get to the point of no bills, no debt. AND if that $618/mo ever stopped? That'd be okay too, cause what we spend it on we don't need. :vs_cool:

$650 covers my property taxes, home and vehicle insurance, plates, heat, electric, food.

I'm working on the health insurance part since Cobra didn't pay, although they got paid.

I broke down and bought beer.

 

[MountainGirl]

$650 covers my property taxes, home and vehicle insurance, plates, heat, electric, food.

I'm working on the health insurance part since Cobra didn't pay, although they got paid.

I broke down and bought beer.

Yay beer!
Ours covers prop taxes, veh lic/ins, Verizon, gas & the food we don't hunt or grow.
The $618/mo is SocSec... and if that ever stopped the gov would have a helluva lot more to worry about than us not paying taxes. LOL
We're set up to be fine - even if there's an cme/emp, no more fuel, no more grocery stores, etc.

 

[Slippy]

In a couple of years, If I sell my beloved Slippy Lodge and buy some land in WY and build a smaller home, I'm hoping to be set. The South has some great folk-lore and is generally still free, but the big city dominance has me concerned.

 

[MountainGirl]

In a couple of years, If I sell my beloved Slippy Lodge and buy some land in WY and build a smaller home, I'm hoping to be set. The South has some great folk-lore and is generally still free, but the big city dominance has me concerned.

Sounds like a good plan! :vs_closedeyes:

 

[ND_ponyexpress_]

how low would the unemployment go if they reversed the stimulus... give $600 to the unemployed and $300/week to those with a job.... bet most would have a job within a month...

as for Me and the wife.... our money is being invested..... in a new mattress!