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If martial law was to be instated and our rights were taken awa would you be willing to fight to defend them? I'm only a teenager but I wouldn't think twice before defending my constitutional rights. History's proven that citizens can defeat a corrupt government.
 

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It's nice to think that way, but what about all the other country's that have done something like this, their military's have gone along with it.
 

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I will not summit to martial law under Obama ever.
In the Watts riots and the days of rage Detroit, the police ran away, those were nothing compared to what is coming
 
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The puppet means nothing.

Ever considered the notion you live under martial rule, now? What if it were never recinded after the Civil War? What if all the evidence really did point to the truth?

What are the conditions for the upgrade from rule to law? What scenario?
 

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If martial law was to be instated and our rights were taken awa would you be willing to fight to defend them? I'm only a teenager but I wouldn't think twice before defending my constitutional rights. History's proven that citizens can defeat a corrupt government.
Mayhap you should take a look around you if you think we're aren't already close to martial law , and best analyse the " defeats of corrupt govts" you refer to and exactly what the cost was to the assembled citizenry.

Rather seems a leading question too , coming from someone with two posts.

Me? Oh I'm a pacifist and I threw all my firearms overboard on a fishing trip after breaking the firing assemblies so they wouldn't be a danger to the fish and the crabs.

Really...ask anyone here they'll tell you.
 

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Jazzman, I was just starting a good conversation. Sorry If offended anyone by posting this.
Look , these are uncertain times , many folks here take OpSec quite seriously and you just basically put forth a question that asked folks whether or not they would engage in or advocate illegal acts. And insofar as it goes you might wish to softpedal such talk within the context of the real world , old saying " loose lips sink ships"............and in these days of " see something , hear something say something" it's more applicable than ever before.

You catching my drift yet? The walls have ears , so does the 'net , and you never know what sort of Fart , Barf and Itch or BAtFeces clown is floating around taking notes......

Me , well as I stated I'm an unarmed pacifist veggie eater........
 

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Jazzman is correct, I am from a different age someone needs to tell the man to stick it every time I look in the mirror I see someone. I wish I could sit in the back quietly heck my life would have been so much quieter.
I was never able to sit in the back not any better than anyone else I could not do it no madder how much I wanted to. My mother and latter my wife ask me if there was ever going to be a fight I did not sign up for first out.
From my first day in school I walked in and sat down in the front row, the rest of my life it never changed. I was was born to be the first out he door. I can not change I tried.
See yall in the fight.

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It's nice to think that way, but what about all the other country's that have done something like this, their military's have gone along with it.
Ya but no other country in the world is armed like the US population is. We are a Armed nation and anyone that thinks otherwise is just in a for a world of hurt.
 

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Ya but no other country in the world is armed like the US population is. We are a Armed nation and anyone that thinks otherwise is just in a for a world of hurt.
Many of us here are not teens, we are not unfamiliar with firearms, the woods and the notion of survival. A good many of us are also not unfamiliar with the U.S. military, as we have first-hand experience in it.

Let me explain a couple things about today's aviation technology. Imagine the most primitive armed helicopter the U.S. inventory has, the OH-58D Kiowa Warrior. You and your buds are doing everything by the numbers. Your camo can't be better, your noise light discipline is awesome, your movement techniques are great. Plus, it is night. What you do not see or hear is the Kiowa Warrior that is approaching your location. The copilot/gunner sees you and your buds on the mast mounted sighting system, notices that there are no "good guys" in the area by checking the Blue Force Tracker, calls for confirmation, and then lights you up with the .50 cal, all before you have an idea you are not alone in the universe.
We won't even go into the Apache's abilities, or the UAVs that the Air Farce uses, nowadays. By the way; before anyone gets testy about me saying "Air Farce," I am in their reserves, right now.

Point being, do not even begin to think that things will be a cake walk, simply because a lot of civilians have a lot of guns. I haven't even mentioned the capabilities of the military police, which you will see a lot of, or the honest to goodness snake-eaters.
 

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Ya but no other country in the world is armed like the US population is. We are a Armed nation and anyone that thinks otherwise is just in a for a world of hurt.
I wonder if nobama is willing to share the hurt along with the wealth! I don't have much in the way of wealth, but I'd love to send him and his kind some hurt.
 

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I am always amazed at people that think that they can take on the armed forces this Country has at its service.

Most of the people who think they can "take it into the streets" lack even soft body armor, have only small arms, no training, and no chance.

I suggest re-reading Denton's post -- he is talking about the least powerful helicopter. If an Apache Longbow shows up, all will likely die.

This type of talk is indicative of someone who has never seen combat, nor seen these machines unleashed in anger.

This is not a movie, or video game, or some advanced form of paintball. Most people cannot withstand a police armor personnel carrier attack.

Seriously. Rethink your position on this. You will not post such nonsense once you realize what will confront you.

Don't believe me? Trip on over to apacheclips.com and see what warfare looks like for real.
 

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I agree with a lot of comments that people have made on this thread. However, don't ever forget a couple of hundred years ago a bunch of colonists kicked the A$$ of the most powerful military in the world. Don't ever give up on the American Spirit, nurture it, grow it and instill it within your sons and daughters.
 
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I am always amazed at people that think that they can take on the armed forces this Country has at its service.

Most of the people who think they can "take it into the streets" lack even soft body armor, have only small arms, no training, and no chance.

I suggest re-reading Denton's post -- he is talking about the least powerful helicopter. If an Apache Longbow shows up, all will likely die.

This type of talk is indicative of someone who has never seen combat, nor seen these machines unleashed in anger.

This is not a movie, or video game, or some advanced form of paintball. Most people cannot withstand a police armor personnel carrier attack.

Seriously. Rethink your position on this. You will not post such nonsense once you realize what will confront you.

Don't believe me? Trip on over to apacheclips.com and see what warfare looks like for real.
I hope at least a few good guys will protect Us,because I already feel defeated after reading this.My Uncle flies Longbows and they are Pretty scary :(
 

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I am always amazed at people that think that they can take on the armed forces this Country has at its service.

Most of the people who think they can "take it into the streets" lack even soft body armor, have only small arms, no training, and no chance.

I suggest re-reading Denton's post -- he is talking about the least powerful helicopter. If an Apache Longbow shows up, all will likely die.

This type of talk is indicative of someone who has never seen combat, nor seen these machines unleashed in anger.

This is not a movie, or video game, or some advanced form of paintball. Most people cannot withstand a police armor personnel carrier attack.

Seriously. Rethink your position on this. You will not post such nonsense once you realize what will confront you.

Don't believe me? Trip on over to apacheclips.com and see what warfare looks like for real.
So how many of your guns have you turned in already, are you wearing your anti gun shirt and telling your congress reps to vote for total gun ban. Don't get me wrong, it won't be pretty should something happen, but are you going to be on the anti side or what? Sounds like you've given up.
 

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It would depend on the reason. If it were imposed due to a pandemic I'd have little problem with it. I'm content to stay in and not die from a flesh eating bug.

If martial law was to be instated and our rights were taken awa would you be willing to fight to defend them? I'm only a teenager but I wouldn't think twice before defending my constitutional rights. History's proven that citizens can defeat a corrupt government.
 

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So how many of your guns have you turned in already, are you wearing your anti gun shirt and telling your congress reps to vote for total gun ban. Don't get me wrong, it won't be pretty should something happen, but are you going to be on the anti side or what? Sounds like you've given up.
Who in the hell do you think you are? Do you have any idea what you sound like? I know what you don't sound like.

Do you have any idea how stupid big talk sounds to those who have felt the earth shake below there feet when the big toys make real noise? Ever seen what the flying machines can do to an area? Do you have any idea just how wickedly good the best in boots really are?

I've shot at and I have been shot at, and I was never even in one of the recent wars. I'm good in the woods, I was a ghost in the dark and I have hurt people really bad. I'm probably nothing compared to some of the guys on this forum, and I damned well know that, and those guys also know what is coming down the road if things go bad.

You need to shut the hell up and learn. You haven't the clue what kind of hot, molten hell in a fury or cold, hard steel in the quiet of night will destroy your little existence, or else you wouldn't suggest such a thing to someone.

Neither he nor I have said anything to what you have asserted. We just understand what we have to face if things go hot in the name of Liberty.

Now, tell me how you are a real-live Rambo on steroids and all of that, but I won't believe you. I've drank beer and shot pool with the real deal, I know what they sound like. They don't talk like that, I assure you.

I know what can happen. I know what will happen if things go real bad. I know what will happen to my family, my plans, everything in my life. I know what the chances of me being vaporized are when I stand up to be counted. I'm not dumb enough to talk stupid because I know better. Seems Verteidiger does, too.
 

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I hope at least a few good guys will protect Us,because I already feel defeated after reading this.My Uncle flies Longbows and they are Pretty scary :(
Hey. Didn't say anything about not being able to win. Neither did anyone else. Just be aware.
 

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Who in the hell do you think you are? Do you have any idea what you sound like? I know what you don't sound like.

Do you have any idea how stupid big talk sounds to those who have felt the earth shake below there feet when the big toys make real noise? Ever seen what the flying machines can do to an area? Do you have any idea just how wickedly good the best in boots really are?

I've shot at and I have been shot at, and I was never even in one of the recent wars. I'm good in the woods, I was a ghost in the dark and I have hurt people really bad. I'm probably nothing compared to some of the guys on this forum, and I damned well know that, and those guys also know what is coming down the road if things go bad.

You need to shut the hell up and learn. You haven't the clue what kind of hot, molten hell in a fury or cold, hard steel in the quiet of night will destroy your little existence, or else you wouldn't suggest such a thing to someone.

Neither he nor I have said anything to what you have asserted. We just understand what we have to face if things go hot in the name of Liberty.

Now, tell me how you are a real-live Rambo on steroids and all of that, but I won't believe you. I've drank beer and shot pool with the real deal, I know what they sound like. They don't talk like that, I assure you.

I know what can happen. I know what will happen if things go real bad. I know what will happen to my family, my plans, everything in my life. I know what the chances of me being vaporized are when I stand up to be counted. I'm not dumb enough to talk stupid because I know better. Seems Verteidiger does, too.
Ouch, did I say something to upset you. So sorry (not) that you don't like what I said or did it hit to close to home. I didn't say I was a Rambo or anything even close. You got your pants in a wad, you can get them un done. He made a statement that sounds like all is lost and I dis agree, but you seem to think his opinion carries more weight. Glad everyone doesn't share his opinion or yours for that matter. Imo, you seem to be dumb enough to talk stupid, I think you just did. I can ask the same question, who the hell do you think you are!
 
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