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Hi, all. Glad to find this forum.

I recently lost my job and I want to store water on the cheap, (if possible) for drinking, cooking, cleaning and hygiene. I'm not worried about space as I have plenty in my basement.

Question 1: I have about 20-30 cat litter buckets with locking lids (Tidy Cats, yellow #5 PP plastic) and was wondering what your thoughts are on using these for water storage for the short term (no more than 1 year)?

Question 2: Is chlorinated city water good enough to store as-is since it's chlorinated, or does it need further treatment?

I have about 9-months to 1 year worth of most preps but sadly water is one prep I dropped the ball on (and I feel ashamed to even say it).

Thanks for reading and responding. Please be gentle :vs_wave:
 
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Hi, all. Glad to find this forum.

I recently lost my job and I want to store water on the cheap, (if possible) for drinking, cooking, cleaning and hygiene. I'm not worried about space as I have plenty in my basement.

Question 1: I have about 20-30 cat litter buckets with locking lids (Tidy Cats, yellow #5 PP plastic) and was wondering what your thoughts are on using these for water storage for the short term (no more than 1 year)?
No. No. No. No. No. No.

Kitty litter buckets aren't food grade. You're storing the liquid of life... why mess it up with chemicals leaching from the container?

No. No. No. No. No. No. No.

I know it's gonna hurt, but buy containers designed for storing water. Your life is worth that much, isn't it?

: Is chlorinated city water good enough to store as-is since it's chlorinated, or does it need further treatment?

I have about 9-months to 1 year worth of most preps but sadly water is one prep I dropped the ball on (and I feel ashamed to even say it).

Thanks for reading and responding. Please be gentle :vs_wave:
A bit of bleach should be all you'll need.
 

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No. No. No. No. No. No.

Kitty litter buckets aren't food grade. You're storing the liquid of life... why mess it up with chemicals leaching from the container?

No. No. No. No. No. No. No.

I know it's gonna hurt, but buy containers designed for storing water. Your life is worth that much, isn't it?

A bit of bleach should be all you'll need.
If the kitty litter wasn't scented, he could use those buckets in combination with mylar bags to store food, though, right?
 

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Is the cat litter scented?
Not sure, but I think it was. Not my buckets, got from my neighbor. Will have to look at the buckets tomorrow.

No. No. No. No. No. No.

Kitty litter buckets aren't food grade. You're storing the liquid of life... why mess it up with chemicals leaching from the container?

No. No. No. No. No. No. No.

I know it's gonna hurt, but buy containers designed for storing water. Your life is worth that much, isn't it?
I get it. I think it needs to be #2 HDPE plastic.

Still thinking about storing water in these kitty litter buckets for use as non-food needs, though, to save money on proper containers.

Any thoughts on that?
 

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Food grade containers can be had cheap/free. 5-gal pickle buckets and plastic drums of various sizes.

11 drops of bleach / gallon of water will kill any nasties if water is free of debris.
 

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The bakery at my local WalMart used to give away their empty icing buckets for free, but now charge a whopping dollar. Not a bad price nonetheless.

Sammich shops also give away empty buckets for free. I've heard Firehouse Subs does merrily but I don't have any experience with them as there's none around me.

Pickle buckets will have a strong odor too them. I've never gotten one, so I don't know what it would take to get rid of that odor. But the WalMart buckets are usually cake icing, so they smell damned nice.

Start making the rounds of the local restaurants, at least the ones that are still open for take-outs. You might have to do some dumpster-diving. I've scrounged a couple dozen empty 3-gallon frying oil jugs from behind a local chinese joint just sitting by the dumpster. Bring 'em home and wash 'em out.
 

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Use only food safe containers, period. For what it is worth: I store 260 gallons of city water
(already chlorinated) but I add 1/2 the normal recommended chlorine bleach (so, 4 drops of liquid
household chlorine bleach (5 to 6% sodium hypochlorite) for every one gallon of water) to the water
on a yearly basis. After 3 years I use the water for other purposes and sanitize the tank and start
over again. This is due to temperature in AZ and I will not take a chance of anything growing in the
water. Obviously there is a strong odor of bleach in the water. During the reuse of the water, I
transfer it to outdoor tubs, where it "off gases" the chlorine in about 2-3 days and then reuse the
water in my garden. So, if I needed to use the water, it might take 2-3 days to get rid of the strong
smell/taste. Pouring the water back and forth from one bucket to another can speed up the process
of of gasing, and I intend to run the water thru a Berkley after the smell is gone.
 

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As far as I know, #5 pp is a food grade plastic that is commonly used to store all kinds of foods that are in direct contact with it.

Raise the limits.
 

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id use the kitty litter jugs for non food situation's only.like flushing the tolit if the water shoul get turned off for what ecer reason.to keeping house plants watered.on account the litter can't be cleaned out completely.including what leached into the plastic.
 

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Went around to all grocery stores that have a bakery and/or deli in my area. Most told me they were instructed not to give such things away to customers right now, others just claimed they didn't have any.

So I went to a local bakery thinking I may hit the jackpot there (they are a rather large bakery). I almost left empty-handed but I ended-up with three 3-gallon buckets and two 5-gallon buckets with lids. All food grade that either stored icing or high fructose corn syrup. They are all #2 HDPE

They do not usually have as many as I thought they would because they actually reuse/repurpose them.

But they told me to go back next Friday at around the same time and they would hold more back for me in the meantime, but didn't tell me how many I could expect. I didn't ask as I didn't want to come across more pushy than I already was. lol These guys are underpaid bakery workers so you can't push them too hard or you get no cooperation from them.

I also tried a specialty candy manufacturer on the way back but they were closed. Will try again.

I will go back to the bakery next Friday and hope they have more buckets and I'll keep trying the candy maker.

I will try to brainstorm other places that might be a source of good buckets.

id use the kitty litter jugs for non food situations only.like flushing the tolit if the water shoul get turned off for what ecer reason.to keeping house plants watered.on account the litter can't be cleaned out completely.including what leached into the plastic.
I agree. This is what I intend to do with these buckets now that I have found #2 HDPE buckets (but need a lot more). Putting out SHTF fires is also a good reason to store water that you don't intend to drink.

However I will still clean them very well just as if I would be using the water for food. Because, to be 100% honest, I probably would drink it if I went for days without a drop of drinkable water.

Even though #5 PP is supposed to be "food grade", they still may not be totally safe considering what was stored int them.

As far as I know, #5 pp is a food grade plastic that is commonly used to store all kinds of foods that are in direct contact with it.

Raise the limits.
Yes, #5 PP is considered food grade. Rubbermaid food storage containers that are freezer and microwave safe are #5 PP.

What do you mean by "Raise the limits"?
 
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.......so i went to a local bakery thinking i may hit the jackpot there (they are a rather large bakery). I almost left empty-handed but i ended-up with three 3-gallon buckets and two 5-gallon buckets with lids. All food grade that either stored icing or high fructose corn syrup. They are all #2 hdpe...........
Score!
 

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Besides bakeries check places with delis or fast food.
Had so much to do today and decided to skip those since many are closed and the ones that are open looked very busy. Also because the only ones open seem to be the national chains and didn't want to waste my time with them since some of the grocery stores (also national chains) had a policy not to let people have the the buckets. But I may try later or tomorrow.
 

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(so, 4 drops of liquid
household chlorine bleach (5 to 6% sodium hypochlorite) for every one gallon of water)
Unfortunately, the only bleach I have is the concentrated kind that contains not only Sodium Hypochlorite but also Sodium Hydroxide.

Anyone know if the concentrated bleach is OK to use for water treatment? It does show 6% Sodium Hypocholorite but does not say how much Sodium Hydroxide. It just mentions it being an ingredient on the label but not on the ingredient list.

Bleach of all types are pretty much gone everywhere in my area. Been about a week now.
 

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@esmok

Good on you for taking some action.

I may not have read every post from this thread and if I'm off base, my apologies.

Water for drinking is damn necessary, so continue to do what you are doing to make sure you have the H2O requirements for you/familhy.

But don't forget water for hygiene, which also includes flushing toilets. Cleaning dishes, clothes and your person etc is important but making sure you can flush you toilets is also damn huge!

Get some non food grade containers just for flushing and you'll have a piece of mind that you can at least keep your waste system somewhat in control.

(OH and after this Shit Has Been Cleaned Off of The Fan, don't go back to your old ways of NOT being prepared! Promise me! :vs_shake:)

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Unfortunately, the only bleach I have is the concentrated kind that contains not only Sodium Hypochlorite but also Sodium Hydroxide.

Anyone know if the concentrated bleach is OK to use for water treatment? It does show 6% Sodium Hypocholorite but does not say how much Sodium Hydroxide. It just mentions it being an ingredient on the label but not on the ingredient list.

Bleach of all types are pretty much gone everywhere in my area. Been about a week now.
You can make bleach using pool shock.
 

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Went around to all grocery stores that have a bakery and/or deli in my area. Most told me they were instructed not to give such things away to customers right now, others just claimed they didn't have any.

So I went to a local bakery thinking I may hit the jackpot there (they are a rather large bakery). I almost left empty-handed but I ended-up with three 3-gallon buckets and two 5-gallon buckets with lids. All food grade that either stored icing or high fructose corn syrup. They are all #2 HDPE

They do not usually have as many as I thought they would because they actually reuse/repurpose them.

But they told me to go back next Friday at around the same time and they would hold more back for me in the meantime, but didn't tell me how many I could expect. I didn't ask as I didn't want to come across more pushy than I already was. lol These guys are underpaid bakery workers so you can't push them too hard or you get no cooperation from them.

I also tried a specialty candy manufacturer on the way back but they were closed. Will try again.

I will go back to the bakery next Friday and hope they have more buckets and I'll keep trying the candy maker.

I will try to brainstorm other places that might be a source of good buckets.

I agree. This is what I intend to do with these buckets now that I have found #2 HDPE buckets (but need a lot more). Putting out SHTF fires is also a good reason to store water that you don't intend to drink.

However I will still clean them very well just as if I would be using the water for food. Because, to be 100% honest, I probably would drink it if I went for days without a drop of drinkable water.

Even though #5 PP is supposed to be "food grade", they still may not be totally safe considering what was stored int them.

Yes, #5 PP is considered food grade. Rubbermaid food storage containers that are freezer and microwave safe are #5 PP.

What do you mean by "Raise the limits"?
Good job!!
 
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