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Hi Y'all,

I just want to say how important it is to keep your firearms in a safe and secure way, where unauthorized persons CANNOT get a hold of them. This includes your own kids.

I know a lot of people that just throw away the locks that comes with the firearms and I understand. But there are other ways to keep your firearms secure. Like a gun cabinet and safes and other quick release locks and safes.

There are many reasons to keep your own firearms secured. I dont think I need to list them as we are all adults here.

All gun owner should be responsible for their own firearms. Keep it locked up, so crooks cant get a hold of them. Children does not have access to them and even other family members that are not authorized to use them.

Bad things will not happen if the firearms were properly secured. So if you do not practice securing your firearms to prevent other from gaining access to them then you should not own a firearm. Go get a pepper spray or something.

If you want to argue things like: "well I have a handgun next to me when I sleep" then, sure you can have it next to you but you can easily lock it back up when you wake up or before you leave the house. When you come home dont just lay your CC handgun on the counter. either keep it in a lock drawer or something.

I am just sayin. I know most of you are mature enough to understand what I am getting at. For those of you who dont get it, start asking.
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All sounds good but that has nothing to do with what happened. And sadly we will never get the truth. Lot of question that need to be ask but they will not get ask. There was something wrong and it did not just come up.
Deal with the sick, problem people before they act.
Yes secure your weapons but if someone wants to steal they will you can not stop them.
 

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the state of Massachusetts requires you to keep them locked or in a secure container.
if for some reason the police enter your home, such as a med emergency and see them laying around unlocked, they will be seized and you will loose your ltc.
 

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Securing weapons is not the problem, and nowhere near it. Furthermore, I would imagine nobody here needs to be told to keep weapons out of the hands of their toddlers or any mentally-defective family members.

Rather than spend time typing again, I'll just offer this writing from this morning. Take it for what it is worth to you.

Our Future America. What Did You Expect?
 

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A very good read Denton. I would like to add something here . IF you have a youngen' in your bunch or even older one, that has even a little bit of mental problems, don't be in such denial. Admit that one of yours is not quite up to par, and take extra steps to get said one into a good treatment program. If you also have firearms, take all steps nec to prevent them from falling into the ill ones hands at any costs. I really thing that this is the major scope of the problem.

IF one of your neighbors is in that position, (mentally ill) then also make some kind of effort to keep him/her away from firearms. Think about it. Would any "normal" person do something like this ? Of course not, so, maybe everybody can help on this growing problem we seem to have.
 

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Absolutely. Mental illness does not happen in a vacuum. It is also lunacy to ignore the side effects of happy pills, and it is equally silly to think that potentially dangerous people can be handed stabilization medication and always take them as prescribed.

Not only that, but it is not within reason to not train children young and expect them to understand important things, like firearms. My son, for example, had a pretty good understanding of what the S&W mdl. 586 would do to an object, what would happen to a body were it to be struck, and what would happen to him were he to touch it without my permission. This is no different than what one would do with a nail gun, a table saw or the keys to the T-Bird. Take the mystery from the weapon, set rules and have an understanding of the consequences of violating the rules. The boy is now 22, and is more mature and responsible than most adults I know.

None of this, on the other hand addresses the spiritual disease that is killing us.
 

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I dont want this to be political or gun control or what not.

I just want everyone to be a responsible gun owner and try to keep their firearms secure. No point of blaming anyone or looking for answers. If we all just do our small itty bitty part. Then at least we did something. Or tried. (In all seriousness, even if guns wasnt involved, a knife will still be as lethal. Look up the cases in China in recent months.) So guns are not the problem. But as gun owner we should be at least be responsible of our own guns by keeping them secure. (Sorry I think I went a little about gun control there)

We are all smart enough to own guns. Where else everyone else will be using sticks and stones. So lets be smart so that the stick and stone owners wont get to our guns. Thats all.
 

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Take the mystery from the weapon, set rules and have an understanding of the consequences of violating the rules.

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This is important. Make sure everyone in the household understand that it is not a toy and set strict rules.
 

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My guns are scattered throughout the house. My weapons are not trophies, they are operational tools that are absolutely of no use if they are locked away. Being a cognizant, discerning man, I am able to observe and analyze my environment. As a matter of fact, I guess it is obvious that I bristle at being told to act like the lowest common denominator or the mindless, do as you are told, crowd.

Yes, there are people to blame, their agenda obvious to those who are still able to discern right from wrong, and the results of that agenda is coming close to finishing off what was once a promising society. Who is to blame? We are, of course. WE, The People, decided to blindly follow the authors of the agenda.

I saw this mess coming, even when I was a young soldier. Looking back at what a young enlisted man saw yet so many of his countrymen have been to undisciplined to realize, I look at my military service in the same way John Adams viewed his great service to the nation:

"Posterity! You will never know how much it cost the present Generation to preserve your Freedom! I hope you will make good use of it. If you do not, I shall repent in Heaven, that I ever took half the Pains to preserve it."

Sorry about the argumentative manner, I'm just feeling very disgusted with the way things are going down, and know where it will all lead.
 

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what happened to calling a spade a spade?:shock:(before y"all get started im black:grin:)or evil evil all this feel good crap is killing us.
all this you must respect me without giving it, you must pay for my children, while i dont work, you owe me im entitled.
then you live in the burbs(again not everyone) or you are a tree hugger:eek: thinking that this give peace a chance b.s will keep you safe!
And just because you dont like guns, you think you can impose your ideas on me, cause i want to protect my family, you can make laws
telling me that i cant own the kind of firearm i want!!! the bad black rifle, the high cap mags, the full auto!!

you think that we are stupid!! you think that we are not as smart as the gov, or the police(what morons you are) We know enough to know enough to lock our weapons up. (not you op this is to the libs)And when things like this happen you look at us(gun owners)as we are all criminals. But and want to take away our 2a rights::rambo::::rambo::::rambo::::rambo::::rambo:: Untill it happens to you.
But the weapons used were lawfully obtained, but this pos bent on mayhem killed his own MOTHER!!! to do something illegal.
so weapon bans dont work sorry for the tangent BUT A ARMED SOCIETY IS A POLITE SOCIETY!!! but you are right sir, keep em locked up
but thats all you can do, but locks only to keep honest people honest.
 

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i commisioned a bed safe yesterday to lift my matteress & springs easily. cause i do have my shit out. i began to think about it. my shit is insured, but the devistation my collection could do to a family in the wrong hands i dont find being endeminified in a loss being my biggest worry- but what are my guns doing now. ill put a majority away. but not all.
 

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i consider my locked home to be a secure container
what you or i would consider, is not what the state does.

Here, the law, we all feel it is an intrusion of our right of privacy.

Even a locked closet will not do as far as the state goes.

If you have a break-in and loose any to it and they were unsecured, you will loose your license.

The state has a "must issue" fid law, this is what you will end up with, low cap long guns only.

You can argue it in court if you can afford it.

Personally, i prefer to keep mine secured, they are worth too much money to leave lying around.

I have several safes, and i keep my gas torch cutting heads and plasma torches locked up in them.
 
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