Stop standing up for this kind of behavior MG:
LAPD news conference live
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I never said that people shouldn't be armed or have firearms. My point is the video is not protected act and the videos are very one sided. There are millions of police officers in this country and you're trying to sway me with examples of few bad ones. Almost everyone of the officers shown especially in the vid with the guy with pepper spray were fired. The Police are not super human and may falter. I know I don't like being videoed and I'm sure you don't either.Stop standing up for this kind of behavior MG:
Most of those videos are used as training vids and almost all of the officers were fired.
Perhaps that should be addressed then before we send drones into our skies to spy on the average American.My point is the video is not protected act and the videos are very one sided
Yup and it is if you read the legislation. use without a warrant is a 4th Amendment violation.Perhaps that should be addressed then before we send drones into our skies to spy on the average American.
Then why is DHS trying to sneak around the 4th Amendment via FAA safety regulation legislative updates or is there more current legislation then July 2012 in this area ? Im genuinely curious about this subject.
Amendment to Bar Domestic Armed Drones Ruled Out of Order in House
Amendment to Bar Domestic Armed Drones Ruled Out of Order in House
One sided. Can you tell me what the guy on the ground was doing before the filming started? How about how many people were on the other side of the camera? What kind of record did the guy on the ground have? was he armed? But I'm sure he is the good guy. Eyes rolling, slapping forehead, and wondering why people are so clueless to the world.Perhaps that should be addressed then before we send drones into our skies to spy on the average American.
Actually I dont have much problem with how the first cop was dealing with the kid on the ground. I dont know anything about what led up to the situation getting to that level and why he was not handcuffed. Procedure. Ya know. Where I started having problems was when the second cop (the black one) showed up and started showing up and threatening (likely teens as well) them that hed beat there asses. The video is not broken so is there no secret agitate stance by the bystanders or comments made to the police. In fact there heard telling there friend to calm down. Then the third cop comes in and forces the kids to shut off there cell phone camera. A violation of accurate recording of the events. What happened after that is anybodies guess. Im glad it was posted for viewing and if thats what our LEO enforcement is going to look like in the future it just could get messy.
Im sure theres a group of kids that lost trust in LEO's that very well might have had respect for them prior to the incident. It really is up to LEO/Federal LEO how they wish to be perceived by the public.
Im sure theres a group of kids that lost trust in LEO's that very well might have had respect for them prior to the incident. It really is up to LEO/Federal LEO how they wish to be perceived by the public.
I agree, the first cop did his job and it appeared that he had things handled before the 2nd cop showed up. There was no reason for the verbal abuse or the violence. The police chief agreed and fired the guy after an investigation. The only thing the police may have done wrong is not consult you first.Actually I dont have much problem with how the first cop was dealing with the kid on the ground. I dont know anything about what led up to the situation getting to that level and why he was not handcuffed. Procedure. Ya know. Where I started having problems was when the second cop (the black one) showed up and started showing up and threatening (likely teens as well) them that hed beat there asses. The video is not broken so is there no secret agitate stance by the bystanders or comments made to the police. In fact there heard telling there friend to calm down. Then the third cop comes in and forces the kids to shut off there cell phone camera. A violation of accurate recording of the events. What happened after that is anybodies guess. Im glad it was posted for viewing and if thats what our LEO enforcement is going to look like in the future it just could get messy.
Im sure theres a group of kids that lost trust in LEO's that very well might have had respect for them prior to the incident. It really is up to LEO/Federal LEO how they wish to be perceived by the public.
I know you work the border and I wouldn't have your job for any amount of money. You get s##t from both sides. You guys get shot at, sometimes killed and some go to jail for defending yourselves. Also over the years I have had many cops as friends and have a serious amount of respect for what they do. I don't have the patience needed to deal with all the nut jobs so I couldn't do this job either. That being said, you cannot make a blanket statement that all LEO's are the good guys. There are good and bad everywhere.
I can't help but play the devil's advocate here.
Has anyone entertained the notion that Dorner might be an innocent man on the run from a corrupt police force/government? I can't help but wonder if Dorner knows things the government/LAPD don't want getting out. The rambling manifesto allegedly written by Dorner could have been something forged and crafted by the government/police.
This is pure speculation on my part, but the thought has definitely crossed my mind. I don't trust a word coming from the government and the elite-run mainstream media outlets anymore.
Has anyone entertained the notion that Dorner might be an innocent man on the run from a corrupt police force/government? I can't help but wonder if Dorner knows things the government/LAPD don't want getting out. The rambling manifesto allegedly written by Dorner could have been something forged and crafted by the government/police.
This is pure speculation on my part, but the thought has definitely crossed my mind. I don't trust a word coming from the government and the elite-run mainstream media outlets anymore.
I don't think it's foolish at all, in fact there are several hundred bad policemen in this area I live in and yes I have dealt with them before and literally fought against them to make public their corruption. I know all cops aren't bad, I have a few good friends myself whom are LEO's but they will be the first to tell you that these days most big city forces and even smaller ones lately are rife with corruption and lawbreaking. Just today in the AJC (atlanta journal constitution) there was a front page headline about dozens of arrested police officers ensnared in a federal sting that found these officers were working for drug dealers.I don't know any bad LEO's out anywhere but I know very many great ones! What a foolish and reckless statement.
10 metro police officers face corruption charges | www.ajc.com
I live rurally and think the rural cops can be as corrupt, perhaps even more corrupt than the city cops. It's a good ole boys club out here in the woods, folks.I'm quite familiar with NYC. Those cops trample on the rights of people every hour. Those aren't "mistakes". Normal people are afraid to even speak to them,and try to stay away.
The cops there are not respected,they are feared
Sadly, for every good cop I've met and known, there have been 9 bad ones. I often wondered why this was the case. The only conclusion I can come to is that tyrannical, power hungry people will always seek control in this world, whether it be by seeking office, a badge, or with money.
I am a law abiding and peaceful citizen and I avoid LE at all costs because I fear them very much.
I just want to grow my garden and capture my bee swarms this year and hopefully get my chicken coop up and running before it gets too cold too acclimate them. I really dont want to worry about the behavior a LEO's. So yeah. Fix yourselves not look for sympathy.
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