I couldn't disagree more. Positive things should be focused on because it sets the bar for the rest. The negative should be dealt with at the fullest extent of the law. Unfortunately I'm sure that you can't see the positive in your local law enforcement.
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You're absolutely right that the hiring practices of government state /federal agencies are biased and politically motivated. I'm sure they are going to look into how this nut job was hired because they are liable. I wasn't hired by a few agencies when I graduated college because I was just another white male or I didn't fit into their community based social worker type that they were looking for.Very little positive to see in our justice system anymore.
Now in order to pander to the PC crowd LA is reopening the investigation. Setting the stage for copy cat shooting to follow. Works for Obama more fooder for gun taking. I can hear it now we must protect LEO's.
It will be found yes mistakes were made, all the white police officer are racist . We will endeavor to made our officers see there inherent racism, we will put more money in the community, we will hire more qualified protected classes of people . We seen this before. Truth ever told, he was only hired because of his race he was never qualified or right for the job to begin with.
You can bet his officer evaluation will be generic . They never put the truth in writing with a protected class. If you doubt me I give you Fort Hood. They are rules weather it be enlisted or officers you need to be real careful what you put in writing. He is an example.
By the time this is over he will be a hero.
LAPD to re-open investigation into fugitive ex-cop's firing | Fox News
The lame stream media is putting the focus on LAPD because they want to ignore the love fest the shooter has illustrated for them.
Once again you're painting the whole organization by the actions of one. Everyone has a story about how they fought the law and the story is always one sided. Cops like people make mistakes and when you have to enforce over 6 millions laws, mistakes happen. I have noticed that states are issuing traffic tickets at an alarming rate because just about every state is broke. I don't say it's right. Take the time to talk to your local law enforcement and take the time to put yourself in their shoes and I think you can find common ground. You have every right to challenge a ticket in a court of law trust me it is as much of a pain in the ass for the cop as it is for you.Of course I can see the positive. Jeez,I've been around a while. But,IN that while,I have seen LEO's get a little too arrogant,disrespectful and over-reaching.
And now they are aggressive in issuing citations to fill the coffers. Haven't you seen that?
Last year while in my boat fishing I got a ticket for having no flares on board. It seemed odd to me,so I researched & found that flares are NOT required
between sunup & sundown. I got the ticket at around NOON! After 3 court appearances the charge was dropped. The fine plus state surcharge would have been $130.
How could the marine cop not know? How many people just pay fines via the mail,especially out-of-staters?
Focus on positives? But,that part is the job!!! We need to make sure ALL gov workers DO their job legally and correctly
Oh,the judge said he'd make sure the officer brushed up on the marine laws,so maybe I helped others,too
Their going to "investigate" this murders case with the LAPD that got him fired and throw it right back on the the white man by playing the race card.The lame stream media is putting the focus on LAPD because they want to ignore the love fest the shooter has illustrated for them.
You know the whole traffic ticket thing, when I was in college and worked FT as a patrol officer the chief asked me to do some stats and we were running about a 100 accidents a year in town. He decided to buy a radar gun, teach us all how to use it, and start writing a bunch of tickets. No there wasn't a quota - just a go get em kind of command. The next three years the town grew by almost 40% in size and accidents dropped to 70 per year - just proved to me that enforcement of traffic laws had another positive impact - fewer accidents. But yeah people were pissed off.
Once again you're painting the whole organization by the actions of one. Everyone has a story about how they fought the law and the story is always one sided. Cops like people make mistakes and when you have to enforce over 6 millions laws, mistakes happen. I have noticed that states are issuing traffic tickets at an alarming rate because just about every state is broke. I don't say it's right. Take the time to talk to your local law enforcement and take the time to put yourself in their shoes and I think you can find common ground. You have every right to challenge a ticket in a court of law trust me it is as much of a pain in the ass for the cop as it is for you.
That's the first time I think I have seen an actual statistic showing the positive in ticket writing, very cool. Here in New Mexico it seems the whole state is a speed trap with zero tolerance on speeding and reduced speed zones in the middle of nowhere, it's easy to forget that there is a positive to tickets.You know the whole traffic ticket thing, when I was in college and worked FT as a patrol officer the chief asked me to do some stats and we were running about a 100 accidents a year in town. He decided to buy a radar gun, teach us all how to use it, and start writing a bunch of tickets. No there wasn't a quota - just a go get em kind of command. The next three years the town grew by almost 40% in size and accidents dropped to 70 per year - just proved to me that enforcement of traffic laws had another positive impact - fewer accidents. But yeah people were pissed off.
Focus on the positive , that is one of the tools they use to hang us. While we sit around focusing on some kind LEO buying a homeless man boots. They again blame us for him being homeless.
then they hide the story he took the boots off because they would kill him for them. Smoke and mirrors
They promised free health care even though they never really said it was free. They knew they could never pay for it when the passed Obama care so the next move will be a take over of the entire health care system. But they will blame the evil health care companies and claim they force us to do it.
Look at current gun control efforts we are being forced by the American people to act. But they leave out how they have failed to enforce current law for years creating a lot of the problems so they could create a cure then claim we begged them to do it.
Show me any major city I can not go out and buy drugs in. The police know who is doing it time of day every detail but yet they allow it. Ask your self why? When I reported dealers trying to move into a bar I owned the police investigated me. Then fine me, it had to be my fault they were coming there. In others words shut about it.
I can show you a street right now in Milwaukee, underage girls being pimped on the street LEO will do nothing. This is the world we have allowed .
Be positive I am Positive it has got to change.
Now for the thing on tickets, go to court in Milwaukee for traffic, disturbing the peace ect. You are hand a sheet with all the violation listed, no DA takes with you just a sheet. It list all the violation and next to it is a plea bargain . You pay fine list with in 60 days they bargain it down speeding becomes a littering ticket, Assault become you guessed littering.
Carrying a Concealed weapon with out a permit ...littering . This is our justice system.
then they hide the story he took the boots off because they would kill him for them. Smoke and mirrors
They promised free health care even though they never really said it was free. They knew they could never pay for it when the passed Obama care so the next move will be a take over of the entire health care system. But they will blame the evil health care companies and claim they force us to do it.
Look at current gun control efforts we are being forced by the American people to act. But they leave out how they have failed to enforce current law for years creating a lot of the problems so they could create a cure then claim we begged them to do it.
Show me any major city I can not go out and buy drugs in. The police know who is doing it time of day every detail but yet they allow it. Ask your self why? When I reported dealers trying to move into a bar I owned the police investigated me. Then fine me, it had to be my fault they were coming there. In others words shut about it.
I can show you a street right now in Milwaukee, underage girls being pimped on the street LEO will do nothing. This is the world we have allowed .
Be positive I am Positive it has got to change.
Now for the thing on tickets, go to court in Milwaukee for traffic, disturbing the peace ect. You are hand a sheet with all the violation listed, no DA takes with you just a sheet. It list all the violation and next to it is a plea bargain . You pay fine list with in 60 days they bargain it down speeding becomes a littering ticket, Assault become you guessed littering.
Carrying a Concealed weapon with out a permit ...littering . This is our justice system.
I can say there are still good LEO's and mean it. It sounds like your community or interaction may be different then some of our own MG. If thats the case Im happy to hear it. Keep them where they are. Because there is a vipers nest in many communities the larger the community the worst the corruption seems to get. And lets remember it only takes one shooting like the car in LA of 2 old ladies to damage years of good honest policing. Your hearing alot of anger towards LEO's because in the cities they continue to posture themselves as a paramilitary style force and are willing to execute the orders of there commander without regard for safety or injury. (I mostly speak of OWS protests there). The police are not suppose to be a military force but a community resourece. Where I live they are trying to be the first not the latter. So MG if you do know good LEO's and are for sure they are doing there job the way it was meant to be then next time you see them thank them for me because where I live it is a constant fight to stay out of there way. I mean seriously its scarier seeing a cop car then a gang member drive buy. But I digress. Thats the community I live in.
I ask because I havent heard are those cops charged and in jail ?lets remember it only takes one shooting like the car in LA of 2 old ladies to damage years of good honest policing
No I'm not a cop per say I'm a federal agent. I agree with you on the tickets and I get them too especially here in New Mexico where I think they perfected the speed trap. We have zero tolerance days, double fines, and the dreaded safety zone. I do believe it is getting out of control. When I first got here and I had out of state plates and I got pulled over 3 times in a week, after getting New Mexico plates, not once. It seems New York is just a messed up place to live. I do not have a problem with the local police and understand they have a job to do but I will not allow illegal behavior and will take it to court if I have to. I haven't because I was speeding and deserved the ticket.WRONG,the cop never came,because it didn't go to trial. AND the burden of proof fell on me--I had to write the DA and show just cause for dismissal. The judge was too friggin lazy to consult the lawbooks.
Gimme,gimme the money. We are cash cows to them. What is one-sided? The law is very clearly written. Many traffic tickets are entrapment these days,like the double fine work zones that go for MILES with not a soul working. People get frustrated after 5-10 miles and speed up again. WHAM--ticket time. How about all the arrests for taking photos of incidents? C.mon,man,are you a cop?
I don't like the photo enforcement Probably because it works so well.
So if your positive the government winsFocus on the positive , that is one of the tools they use to hang us. While we sit around focusing on some kind LEO buying a homeless man boots. They again blame us for him being homeless.
then they hide the story he took the boots off because they would kill him for them. Smoke and mirrors
They promised free health care even though they never really said it was free. They knew they could never pay for it when the passed Obama care so the next move will be a take over of the entire health care system. But they will blame the evil health care companies and claim they force us to do it.
Look at current gun control efforts we are being forced by the American people to act. But they leave out how they have failed to enforce current law for years creating a lot of the problems so they could create a cure then claim we begged them to do it.
Show me any major city I can not go out and buy drugs in. The police know who is doing it time of day every detail but yet they allow it. Ask your self why? When I reported dealers trying to move into a bar I owned the police investigated me. Then fine me, it had to be my fault they were coming there. In others words shut about it.
I can show you a street right now in Milwaukee, underage girls being pimped on the street LEO will do nothing. This is the world we have allowed .
Be positive I am Positive it has got to change.
Now for the thing on tickets, go to court in Milwaukee for traffic, disturbing the peace ect. You are hand a sheet with all the violation listed, no DA takes with you just a sheet. It list all the violation and next to it is a plea bargain . You pay fine list with in 60 days they bargain it down speeding becomes a littering ticket, Assault become you guessed littering.
Carrying a Concealed weapon with out a permit ...littering . This is our justice system.
You are correct, all LEO's are just doing their job.Unfortunately I'm sure that you can't see the positive in your local law enforcement.
These ladies had the audacity to toss a cigarette butt out the window. I can't believe that one was fired and the other was repremanded for this, they were just doing their job.
Texas state trooper caught on video searching women's private parts during traffic stop is suspended - NY Daily News
Then the parents of a 15 yr old girl got indignant just because a police officer had a run in with her. The injustice that was done to the LEO was a same.
Courthouse News Service
Then there was this teenager who got what he deserved no doubt. It's hard to believe the officer got in trouble over this.
Yup, ALL LEO's are good people, it's just that some are misunderstood.
The point above is that there are good and bad everywhere and making blanket statements don't work.
Yes because the person in the video wasn't resisting arrest and the person filming wasn't antagonizing the officers. You're so right the police were soooo wrong. Me shaking my head saying what the **** is wrong with you. Oh my gosh they used bad language wow what a human rights violation! Yup you really got me with the word ALL inerceptor!You are correct, all LEO's are just doing their job.
These ladies had the audacity to toss a cigarette butt out the window. I can't believe that one was fired and the other was repremanded for this, they were just doing their job.
Texas state trooper caught on video searching women's private parts during traffic stop is suspended - NY Daily News
Then the parents of a 15 yr old girl got indignant just because a police officer had a run in with her. The injustice that was done to the LEO was a same.
Courthouse News Service
Then there was this teenager who got what he deserved no doubt. It's hard to believe the officer got in trouble over this.
Yup, ALL LEO's are good people, it's just that some are misunderstood.
No the 2nd officer made threats which is different then using bad language. Let me try using that same language to a LEO and lets see what happens. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.
And asking him to stop recording is another violation of the civilians civil rights.
And asking him to stop recording is another violation of the civilians civil rights.
It's not a civil rights violation to tell someone to stop recording if you're the person being recorded. If I marched you over against a wall and shot you in the head, that would be a human rights violation. The cop was out of line with the threats, but trivial at best considering the circumstances. I'm sure everyone else would handle themselves so better doing the same job. Unless you have been there it's hard to say what you would do or say. I'm sure looking at the content of Inceptors posts I'm sure he has a story, Probably involving drugs.No the 2nd officer made threats which is different then using bad language. Let me try using that same language to a LEO and lets see what happens. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.
And asking him to stop recording is another violation of the civilians civil rights.
Your right, if you threaten a cop would not be a good move but I'm sure you wouldn't take it lightly if someone threatened you.
If I ask the police to stop recording they do not so Ill stand by first Amendment right to Free Speech and say it indeed does constitute a Civil Rights violation and is Unconstitutional to force a citizen not involved to stop recording.
I did not call it a Human Rights violation. Those fall outside the Laws of this Country.
I would not call those threats trivial as they were repeated multiple times and could have escalated the situation. Which is poor policing at best.
I did not call it a Human Rights violation. Those fall outside the Laws of this Country.
I would not call those threats trivial as they were repeated multiple times and could have escalated the situation. Which is poor policing at best.
A police officer needs to take control of the situation and if it takes using language so be it. So you're saying that I can follow you around with a camera and film you no matter how much you complain and it's my right? It's different for me because I wearing a uniform? Oh I guess civil rights is for you only right? Your wrongIf I ask the police to stop recording they do not so Ill stand by first Amendment right to Free Speech and say it indeed does constitute a Civil Rights violation and is Unconstitutional to force a citizen not involved to stop recording.
I did not call it a Human Rights violation. Those fall outside the Laws of this Country.
I would not call those threats trivial as they were repeated multiple times and could have escalated the situation. Which is poor policing at best.
Thats not what I said at all. And making threats to standing bystanders is not taking control of the situation. That video infuriates me and only goes to solidify my opposition to our current state of LEO in this country. They behave as a paramilitary force and one day may be treated as such if they continue the path they are on.
And as a Federal employee you know very well that the people are guaranteed under the constitution to be as well armed as the LEO's and thats not hyperbole. I could extend that to military but as we didnt have nukes in those days I find no logic in people that make that statement. But as for LEO's hell yes we may have to defend ourselves against them. So hell yes we have the Constitutional Right under the 2nd Amendment to maintain and have the access to the same arms both offensive and defensive as they do.
Those 2 old ladies had no chance. Example 1. I wont continue because Im not trying to flamebait you but the examples of excessive force are not far and few enough between to not have someone feel this way
And as a Federal employee you know very well that the people are guaranteed under the constitution to be as well armed as the LEO's and thats not hyperbole. I could extend that to military but as we didnt have nukes in those days I find no logic in people that make that statement. But as for LEO's hell yes we may have to defend ourselves against them. So hell yes we have the Constitutional Right under the 2nd Amendment to maintain and have the access to the same arms both offensive and defensive as they do.
Those 2 old ladies had no chance. Example 1. I wont continue because Im not trying to flamebait you but the examples of excessive force are not far and few enough between to not have someone feel this way
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