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About the former cop on the run

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Do you live in a major urban area ? Things seem to be different there then rural peacekeepers.
And noones saying there arent honest good LEO's out there. Were worried about the bad ones though. Could the good ones please break that Blue Line of Silence and then we might be able to move on from this. Like the creepy guys manifesto said.
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Unfortunately LEO's belong to the same community as Doctors. They are not allowed to make mistakes. The consequences are to great.
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I can say there are still good LEO's and mean it. It sounds like your community or interaction may be different then some of our own MG. If thats the case Im happy to hear it. Keep them where they are. Because there is a vipers nest in many communities the larger the community the worst the corruption seems to get. And lets remember it only takes one shooting like the car in LA of 2 old ladies to damage years of good honest policing. Your hearing alot of anger towards LEO's because in the cities they continue to posture themselves as a paramilitary style force and are willing to execute the orders of there commander without regard for safety or injury. (I mostly speak of OWS protests there). The police are not suppose to be a military force but a community resourece. Where I live they are trying to be the first not the latter. So MG if you do know good LEO's and are for sure they are doing there job the way it was meant to be then next time you see them thank them for me because where I live it is a constant fight to stay out of there way. I mean seriously its scarier seeing a cop car then a gang member drive buy. But I digress. Thats the community I live in.
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lets remember it only takes one shooting like the car in LA of 2 old ladies to damage years of good honest policing
I ask because I havent heard are those cops charged and in jail ?
No the 2nd officer made threats which is different then using bad language. Let me try using that same language to a LEO and lets see what happens. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.

And asking him to stop recording is another violation of the civilians civil rights.
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If I ask the police to stop recording they do not so Ill stand by first Amendment right to Free Speech and say it indeed does constitute a Civil Rights violation and is Unconstitutional to force a citizen not involved to stop recording.

I did not call it a Human Rights violation. Those fall outside the Laws of this Country.

I would not call those threats trivial as they were repeated multiple times and could have escalated the situation. Which is poor policing at best.
Thats not what I said at all. And making threats to standing bystanders is not taking control of the situation. That video infuriates me and only goes to solidify my opposition to our current state of LEO in this country. They behave as a paramilitary force and one day may be treated as such if they continue the path they are on.

And as a Federal employee you know very well that the people are guaranteed under the constitution to be as well armed as the LEO's and thats not hyperbole. I could extend that to military but as we didnt have nukes in those days I find no logic in people that make that statement. But as for LEO's hell yes we may have to defend ourselves against them. So hell yes we have the Constitutional Right under the 2nd Amendment to maintain and have the access to the same arms both offensive and defensive as they do.

Those 2 old ladies had no chance. Example 1. I wont continue because Im not trying to flamebait you but the examples of excessive force are not far and few enough between to not have someone feel this way
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Stop standing up for this kind of behavior MG:

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My point is the video is not protected act and the videos are very one sided
Perhaps that should be addressed then before we send drones into our skies to spy on the average American.
Then why is DHS trying to sneak around the 4th Amendment via FAA safety regulation legislative updates or is there more current legislation then July 2012 in this area ? Im genuinely curious about this subject.

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Actually I dont have much problem with how the first cop was dealing with the kid on the ground. I dont know anything about what led up to the situation getting to that level and why he was not handcuffed. Procedure. Ya know. Where I started having problems was when the second cop (the black one) showed up and started showing up and threatening (likely teens as well) them that hed beat there asses. The video is not broken so is there no secret agitate stance by the bystanders or comments made to the police. In fact there heard telling there friend to calm down. Then the third cop comes in and forces the kids to shut off there cell phone camera. A violation of accurate recording of the events. What happened after that is anybodies guess. Im glad it was posted for viewing and if thats what our LEO enforcement is going to look like in the future it just could get messy.

Im sure theres a group of kids that lost trust in LEO's that very well might have had respect for them prior to the incident. It really is up to LEO/Federal LEO how they wish to be perceived by the public.
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I just want to grow my garden and capture my bee swarms this year and hopefully get my chicken coop up and running before it gets too cold too acclimate them. I really dont want to worry about the behavior a LEO's. So yeah. Fix yourselves not look for sympathy.

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