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The present regime has on their own authority granted exemptions from the law to wind farm owners when they kill Bald and Golden Eagles for the next 30 years because they provide "green" power. Wind Farms kill an estimated 83,000 hunting birds a year. If a Bald Eagle is killed by a power line owned by the regular power companies, the company is fined $10,000 and if a hunter shoots one he is not only fined but can spend some prison time.

This upsets me for several reasons. Obama on his own authority has decided that he can ignore the law. He is giving to an industry that donated heavily to his campaign an exemption from the law that no person or any other industry will get, and the symbol of our country is being slaughtered and the President of the United States is basically saying that it is alright.
 

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I'm sorry you feel this way, I can sympathize. But I guess we shouldn't expect anything else. He has outright lied to the American citizenry. The way he ignores and violates the US Constitution is a crime in itself because he took a solemn oath to defend it same as I did. If Clinton went thru impeachment for having a fling with some idiot young lady, why oh why hasn't Obumer been impeached?
The only person I can imagine is happy with Obumer is Jimmy Carter. He must be dancing the happy dance because he won't go down in history as the worst US President!
 

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Bird strike kills are vastly over estimated by tree huggers to kill wind farms. Tall building kill many more.
 

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C'mon man, you know this regime doesn't care about eagles or even wind power for that matter. Their aim is socialism. They will do whatever is needed to obtain socialism. Hypocracy, lies, etc are the norm. THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE EAGLES OR ANYTHING OTHER THAN SOCIALISM. (Sorry to yell but I wanted you to get that point loud and clear.)
 

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You do understand that all this environment stuff Global warming is a scam. The EPA is not about protecting us but enforcing Obama's Goals
By any means possible
 
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So let me throw out a few thoughts relative to this.
1) I don't believe that Obama has the authority to exempt ANYONE from obeying the law. It concerns me that ANY President believes that he does.
2) Wind farms would go bankrupt without government subsidies. They ARE NOT economically sustainable. With the improvements in coal use, YES, coal is a good alternative.
3) Thousands if not millions of acres are no longer being used to produce food because of wind farms.
4) Don't get met started on using FOOD to produce ethanol, another "green" project that would not be in business without government subsidies.
5) I get upset when businesses that donate big contributions to a political party or candidate gets special treatment.

Frankly my post wasn't so much a comment on wind power as it was a comment on abuse of power and political cronyism.
 

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Frankly my post wasn't so much a comment on wind power as it was a comment on abuse of power and political cronyism.
Don't worry, I don't plan on pushing it. I was just playing devils advocate with a little tongue in cheek; I'm not actually that up to speed on where we're at with wind farming, other than that I'm pretty sure most of it is up the west coast. That means in or around California, which means I'm not too concerned with how they waste their time. With any luck the whole shelf might drop some day. :D

Outside of that, I wouldn't expect any less from Obama.
 

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This thread has so much going on from obama's lies, to obama's dictorial powers, and finally the need for new energy. I saw a Tesla on the road the other day, nice car, sharp, and I hear the reviews are great - so why do tax payers give the millionaires that can buy them a $7500 rebate? The worse part is we all buy electricity; its a product bought at a price based on supply and demand. So not only are we paying the Tesla owner $7500 in tax money but we are sharing our limited resource with him - when is the last time our power bill went down. I person was arrested in California last week for plugging their electric car into an exterior wall socket at a public school. You should hear the outrage - "its just electricity" and I applaud the cop for recognizing the theft of public utilities. Such a theif should loser their car and do time in my book.

Newt Gingrich has such a lame personal life his political life is dead to most everyone, but the man had ideas. I liked that - most of the time not all - but one of them was simple. We can put a nuclear reactor on a war ship that is safe in a war zone and it fuels a small city of 5000 people on the open sea. We can put the same "package" reactor under any city of 200,000 or more and provide them tons of juice. The French bought an American technology to recycle the reactor waste, the waste from the modern French nuclear power plants fits into a 55 gallon drum every 15 months, and not one such reactor like it exist in America while we argue where to send nuclear power waste. Newt was right, we should have reactors for every major town - it should be a requirement - because we need CHEAP electricity.
 

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If the stupid birdbrained winged symbols of our country would simply fly the eff around the turbines the problem would never arise
Are you talking about the eagles or Obumer?
 

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They need to make signs for the eagles like they do for the deer - you know the deer crossing signs.
 

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As far as food production goes, MONSANTO is taking our farmland away, not wind farms. However, that does not mean I condone wind farms, I just believe that wind farms aren't really attacking our food supply that much. Our fossil fuels will run out, so I do believe in finding alternative energy, not because of "globing warming", but because in the future, when fossil fuels become scarce, they will also be more expensive. I have a lot of solar powered things on my property, and its nice.
 

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As far as food production goes, MONSANTO is taking our farmland away, not wind farms. However, that does not mean I condone wind farms, I just believe that wind farms aren't really attacking our food supply that much. Our fossil fuels will run out, so I do believe in finding alternative energy, not because of "globing warming", but because in the future, when fossil fuels become scarce, they will also be more expensive. I have a lot of solar powered things on my property, and its nice.
Jess,
I like you (what redblooded American Border Collie wouldn't love a cute little squirrel packing some serious heat and wearing a bandolier?) Anyway, I digress...

Let me break the truth to you loud and clear. It ain't Monsanto that is taking our farmlands it is We The People that continue to vote for the career politicians who bring pork back to their states BUT enact crippling regulation that the small independent business owner/farmer cannot fight. So because the evil career politicians get to hob nob with the leaders of corporations like Monsanto, they get into each others pockets over the years and Waa-Laa small business farmers go out of business and large corporations reap the benefit.

Blame someone? Yes. Blame We The People for being whores to pork laden evil regulation creating politicians from our own states, districts and neighborhoods.

Secondly and maybe more importantly...Fossil Fuels ain't gonna run out. PERIOD Do not believe the media hype. I friggin LOVE LOVE LOVE oil and coal and there is more damn oil and coal in God's great earth than we can ever ever ever use.

It is a problem when the leaders of the world perpetuate the lie that people are greater than God. Global Warming BS is based upon a screwed up view that "we, lowly human beings" created by God can somehow affect His world or His Plan? I choose to believe otherwise.
 

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Jess,
I like you (what redblooded American Border Collie wouldn't love a cute little squirrel packing some serious heat and searing a bandolier?) Anyway, I digress...

Let me break the truth to you loud and clear. It ain't Monsanto that is taking our farmlands it is We The People that continue to vote for the career politicians who bring pork back to their states BUT enact crippling regulation that the small independent business owner/farmer cannot fight. So because the evil career politicians get to hob nob with the leaders of corporations like Monsanto, they get into each others pockets over the years and Waa-Laa small business farmers go out of business and large corporations reap the benefit.

Blame someone? Yes. Blame We The People for being whores to pork laden evil regulation creating politicians from our own states, districts and neighborhoods.

Secondly and maybe more importantly...Fossil Fuels ain't gonna run out. PERIOD Do not believe the media hype. I friggin LOVE LOVE LOVE oil and coal and there is more damn oil and coal in God's great earth than we can ever ever ever use.
I like you too, Slippy. I dig honesty, and you are always, always honest. :)

I do agree that its the people's fault for voting them in, wholeheartedly. Monsanto still sucks, and they literally suck the life out of farmers.
We are always finding new fossil fuel reserves, which is awesome, but its getting more expensive, which is my concern. I did some research just now and realized that even if we do run out, we'd be dead and long gone before we do so.. With fluctuating fuel costs, though, I like the idea of solar energy, only because its free. :D

Aaand wind farms, my opinion is that they are expensive, space-consuming, and ugly. They are generally useless when you think about all of the $$ that has to go into building the damn things.
 
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We have quite a few wind farms around southern Minnesota and northern Iowa. Every winter, when we get an ice storm like the one we just had, as soon as the weather warms near freezing again, the newspapers are full of sob stories about big ice chunks coming off the blades of the turbines and killing livestock. Personally, I think it is kind of funny. But then, I have a deranged sense of humor. Didn't these farmers think about that being a possibility when they leased their land to the power company for their stupid windmill? Hello? It's the northern plains! We get ice every year you morons!
 
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