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I'm saving up for an All American pressure canner. The 21.5 quart holds 7 quart jars, while the 30 quart holds 14. There will be times I won't have 14 jars to put up, so is there any problem running a great big one like that half full? Any other considerations? My thinking is if I'm spending the money, it's only about $70 more for twice the capacity, but I've never used one before so I'm not sure if there's something I'm missing.

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You don't have to double stack either size canner. But you do want each level full. If you are doing just the bottom level make sure to use 7 quart jars so they can't bounce around & break. Coming up empty people sometimes just can water. On the same note, it will do 11 pint jars. Make sure to have 11 jars in there.

The 21.5 will do two stacks of pints while the 30 will do two stacks of quarts.

A problem some people have is the height of a 30 quart canner. Keep in mind you will end up removing hot jars from that canner. Look at the height of your stove, the height of a quart jar, & the height of the canner.
 

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I have a 15.5 & an 18.5 (WWII vintage). Even between those two is a noticeable difference in height getting the hot jars out. My choice was that I would rather have two smaller ones then one big one. Both of mine I bought off fleabay. If you go that route, decide what you would pay for it & don't exceed that price. You get out bid & another will come along. All parts on an AA canner are replaceable.

I set both of mine up for both pressure gauge & weight (jiggler). The jiggler ofcourse exhausts excessive pressure. The gauge tells me I'm at minimum. Allows me to set the heat without having to use excessive heat.
 

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Thanks for the responses! We just measured and the height of the big one will make it very difficult to get jars out from under the range hood, so the smaller one it is. Darn, I guess I'll have to shop for two now. :D

And Cheese, do I get a bonus of having a dual purpose canner?

Oh, also, they say they are cooker/canners. Am I understanding correctly that I'd have to cook first and then put them in jars and can? Or could I throw beans in a jar and they'd come out cooked and canned? I've water bath canned a ton but, as you can tell, have absolutely no idea when it comes to pressure canners. If you do have to cook them first, what's the benefit of using pressure? I mean, obviously it's quicker, but then you're putting food in contact with aluminum, something I'd probably rather not risk.
 

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A pressure cooker is not a canner but a canner can be used as a pressure cooker.

You wouldn't be able to pressure can dry beans because of the amount of water they absorb. Have to hydrate them before canning.

Anyone that plans to can should invest in a Ball Home Preserving book which gives canning pressures & times as well as other helpful tricks.
 

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"Thanks for the responses! We just measured and the height of the big one will make it very difficult to get jars out from under the range hood, so the smaller one it is. Darn, I guess I'll have to shop for two now."

You would have never thought about that being an issue if you hadn't posted.
 

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My Girlfriend just got a 18 quart All American canner off fleabay today actually. the one we got is all metal no plastics. my question is this with the all aluminum canners can you use them on an open flame or hot coals? i mean if/when the shit hit the fan and all we have is tree limbs to cook/heat will i be able to build a fire wood powered grill type thing and put the canner on it and use it as intended? also is there a tutorial on here for servicing these things? and testing i's like to test the gauge before we start using it. the pop off valve im sure i can handle, ive redone the pop off valve on air compressors before.

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DO NOT take an air compressor to the gauge or the blow out valve. Real good chance you will have to replace them. Gauge either works or it doesn't. Really no reason to check calibration. HOWEVER, standard test is having both a gauge & weight gauge. Put water in it & put the lid on it. Let it vent for 10 minutes. Put the weight to 5lbs. Gauge should read about 15PSI when jiggler starts jumping.
 

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I've read that the AA is good, but if you don't have good strength in your hands/arms, it's hard to close and open. Also, you have to think of the weight of the canner plus water to lift on and off the stove.

Is it plausable to can over a wood fire? Not a wood stove, but wood fire that has a wind block?

Backwoods home magazine does a good job of covering canning questions and "Ask Jackie" column is good also.
 
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