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I was working at a hospital when the pandemic hit.
Lots of panic, lots of OT, lots of course of therapy meetings.
In that period I saw lots of folks circling the drain and expire.
Some vaxxed, some not.
The elderly, the obese, diabetics, and folks with pulmonary issues went fast.

I myself popped positive twice, and spent some mandatory time off.
In the first bout I had minor symptoms, and on the second I was asymptomatic.
When the vax became mandatory half of my pharmacy chose to refuse and left.
I decided that I would go ahead and retire at 51 and left too.
No jab for me.

I think everyone should make their own choices, and stop harping about the other side.
Just my thoughts ...
 

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I have very little human contact. I only had to wear a mask once while in Anchorage for medical "hip" issues. Never took the shot, never got sick. In fact have not been sick in 38 years, very lucky. As to the original post it would depend on what was the cause of the pandemic. Covid-19 no, but other historically "known" diseases, yes, like smallpox, or any of the historically known "Pox" diseases.

It would depend on the history of the cause of the pandemic, and the history of the treatment. Basically, avoiding contact with humans seems most prudent.
 

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Is the treatment tried, true, and tested?
If so, I'll likely follow along. There's nothing inherently wrong with vaccines. Anyone claiming that someone else is an "anti-vaxxer" because they didn't want to take the COVID jabs simply didn't understand the premise behind that decision for most people. It was an unproven method that had seen limited success in other uses with no long term studies on safety or effectiveness.
If some new scary thing suddenly crops up, and we have a "cure" within half a year that's never been tried before, I'll take the same approach I did to COVID. Weigh my options, assess my health and likelihood of surviving an infection, and determine my own risks. But if anyone thinks that telling me I'm the reason their grandmother will die will do anything to force a decision on me, think again.

But when it comes to smallpox, polio, or vaccines for similar illnesses we've fought in the past???
Sign me up. We know they work, we fully understand the mechanisms in play, and we have decades of evidence to look to for proof of safety.
 

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Is the treatment tried, true, and tested?
If so, I'll likely follow along. There's nothing inherently wrong with vaccines. Anyone claiming that someone else is an "anti-vaxxer" because they didn't want to take the COVID jabs simply didn't understand the premise behind that decision for most people. It was an unproven method that had seen limited success in other uses with no long term studies on safety or effectiveness.
If some new scary thing suddenly crops up, and we have a "cure" within half a year that's never been tried before, I'll take the same approach I did to COVID. Weigh my options, assess my health and likelihood of surviving an infection, and determine my own risks. But if anyone thinks that telling me I'm the reason their grandmother will die will do anything to force a decision on me, think again.

But when it comes to smallpox, polio, or vaccines for similar illnesses we've fought in the past???
Sign me up. We know they work, we fully understand the mechanisms in play, and we have decades of evidence to look to for proof of safety.
So....as long as its named after an old one, mrna is ok? Its still going to be a bad deal if its loaded with mrna.
There aren't going to be any unmodified injectables? They were just bragging in the UK about "a whole slew" of injectables coming out.
If there is any information in the box, people should read it carefully. If there isn't or anybody get facetious, then thats self explanatory.
I dont think people realize who much goofier it will get with the effort to inject people with anything.
 
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So....as long as its named after an old one, mrna is ok? Its still going to be a bad deal if its loaded with mrna.
There aren't going to be any unmodified injectables? They were just bragging in the UK about "a whole slew" of injectables coming out.
If there is any information in the box, people should read it carefully. If there isn't or anybody get facetious, then thats self explanatory.
I dont think people realize who much goofier it will get with the effort to inject people with anything.
At this point, mRNA is a deal breaker for me. We just don't have long term studies showing their safe and effective use as a vaccine strategy.
The technology is good, on its face. The implementation is where more work is needed. Bold claims were made about what it can and won't do, and those have all been shown to be either false or terribly misleading.

No, when I say a tried, true, and tested treatment, I mean the same old vaccines that used to be administered using weakened or dead forms of the germ.
One day this mRNA stuff will lead to a major revolution in immune defense, and many other areas. But it's not ready yet, and was brought to market too soon with misleading claims and no track record of success.
 

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At this point, mRNA is a deal breaker for me. We just don't have long term studies showing their safe and effective use as a vaccine strategy.
The technology is good, on its face. The implementation is where more work is needed. Bold claims were made about what it can and won't do, and those have all been shown to be either false or terribly misleading.

No, when I say a tried, true, and tested treatment, I mean the same old vaccines that used to be administered using weakened or dead forms of the germ.
One day this mRNA stuff will lead to a major revolution in immune defense, and many other areas. But it's not ready yet, and was brought to market too soon with misleading claims and no track record of success.
I wonder why you think it will ever be good for anything but a weapon? There will never be a society where govt can be believed in or trusted, there will never be "benevolent" scientists who "care about people" and there never was? In the "good ole days" my grandparents despised govt and doctors - guess why? My parents generation is the one that bought into ultra modernization and started acting like things were "convenient", which is the path to servitude, slavery. During the most prosperous and best times we had, it was not because people believed in the govt or scientists (or islam and their friends either) because people had just had flu!/depression/war ran on them exactly like it is now.
Yes? "People" can use electro reactives by ingestion now? But the same thing is a sinister weapon, and things always get misued at best.
 

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I wonder why you think it will ever be good for anything but a weapon? There will never be a society where govt can be believed in or trusted, there will never be "benevolent" scientists who "care about people" and there never was? In the "good ole days" my grandparents despised govt and doctors - guess why? My parents generation is the one that bought into ultra modernization and started acting like things were "convenient", which is the path to servitude, slavery. During the most prosperous and best times we had, it was not because people believed in the govt or scientists (or islam and their friends either) because people had just had flu!/depression/war ran on them exactly like it is now.
Yes? "People" can use electro reactives by ingestion now? But the same thing is a sinister weapon, and things always get misued at best.
You really don't see any future potential for good in mrna technology...ever?
Not all scientists are out to get you.
 

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I wonder why you think it will ever be good for anything but a weapon? There will never be a society where govt can be believed in or trusted, there will never be "benevolent" scientists who "care about people" and there never was? In the "good ole days" my grandparents despised govt and doctors - guess why? My parents generation is the one that bought into ultra modernization and started acting like things were "convenient", which is the path to servitude, slavery. During the most prosperous and best times we had, it was not because people believed in the govt or scientists (or islam and their friends either) because people had just had flu!/depression/war ran on them exactly like it is now.
Yes? "People" can use electro reactives by ingestion now? But the same thing is a sinister weapon, and things always get misued at best.
That's a bleak outlook...
But I never said anything about trusting government or scientists. What we need is transparency in the sciences. We must return to the time when hypotheses were tested and confirmed or rejected, and it wasn't a big scam you hung your career on.
I guarantee there are people working in these fields that do in fact just want to help people.

I see mRNA medicine the same as I see CRISP/Cas9 gene therapy... it can be used for good, or it can be used for control. With the mapping of the human genome, we opened a world of potential in the realm of disease prevention. This will one day be as normal to patients as taking aspirin is to us.
The struggle is trying to find out who's working for good, and who's trying to control. When you only hear one side of the story, you can bet that's the side trying to control.
It takes a discerning mind to know who to trust and when. At the moment, I don't trust anyone in charge. Not even the ones I'd openly vote for.
But that doesn't mean there won't be a time in the future when things improve.
 

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Everything depends on the situation, I couldn't say yes or no at this time.

During this last scamdemic I most likely ended up getting COVID twice, the first time I had symptoms but wasn't tested and had a confirmed case the 2nd go around. I took the vaccine between those cases and swore it off after I still caught it. I will not get any further boosters, for me COVID was nothing more than a very mild case of the flu, I felt bad but after a couple of days I was just fine.

What has me most concerned is the quantity and dept of lies put out by those that we should trust for guidance during situations like this so I don't know if I'm ever going to trust the CDC or media again on anything. What is really scary about it is the next time it may be the real deal and there are going to be tons of people out there that will perish because they feel the same way I do and refuse to get treatment. There are people that need to go to PRISON over this!
 

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I HATE that so many decent people were forced to decide between a career they love and bring true to themselves.

Despicable, Luciferian leaders.

And I will never again take a preventative shot - only those for treatment of actual condition.

Sharing a tiny bit:
I was working at a hospital when the pandemic hit.
Lots of panic, lots of OT, lots of course of therapy meetings.
In that period I saw lots of folks circling the drain and expire.
Some vaxxed, some not.
The elderly, the obese, diabetics, and folks with pulmonary issues went fast.

I myself popped positive twice, and spent some mandatory time off.
In the first bout I had minor symptoms, and on the second I was asymptomatic.
When the vax became mandatory half of my pharmacy chose to refuse and left.
I decided that I would go ahead and retire at 51 and left too.
No jab for me.

I think everyone should make their own choices, and stop harping about the other side.
Just my thoughts ...
 

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What has me most concerned is the quantity and dept of lies put out by those that we should trust for guidance during situations like this so I don't know if I'm ever going to trust the CDC or media again on anything. What is really scary about it is the next time it may be the real deal and there are going to be tons of people out there that will perish because they feel the same way I do and refuse to get treatment. There are people that need to go to PRISON over this!
This ^^^.
 

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I was not going to get the jab, but my family "railed" on me so hard that I finally said I would take the Johnson & Johnson, which is not the mrna. Some weeks/ months after I got the J & J, I also tested positive for c-19. It was very mild, like a mild head cold and was gone in 3 days. If my dau-in-law had not brought home a test strip, I would never have known I caught the c-19. No boosters for me.
 
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