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Many of my Friends know I Prep and know my Home is in a great location when SHTF, and so many don't Prep at all let alone own a flashlight.

What will you say to the ones that come that you can't keep or help, this gives me a sick feeling in my gut when I think about it. I can talk all the Macho I want but its gonna be hard either way.
 

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Just remember we all deep down in our souls believe that things will get better and back to normal after a SHTF event. Those that you turned away will remember and probably seek payback. Also remember that no matter how well prepared you think you are, no one or single family can go it alone for more than a short while. You are going to need others (like doctors or dentists, or chicken farmers or dairymen) just to name a few. Far better for a small community (Village is what we called our commuinities in the town i grew up in) to band together and and ride out the bad times. We are all stronger when we work together than when we try and go it alone. Don't get me wrong, I've got my farm and a basic stock pile of goods and tools etc, but
 

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Vulf - to me, the best time to start discussing your prep-sharing limitations with your family, friends, and neighbors is TODAY. Do not wait until it's crisis time. But first you also must make up your own mind, on no uncertain terms, what you want to do. Do you want everyone to come to your house? Do you want only certain ones to come? Do you want nobody to come? Make up your mind and stick to it. There are pros and cons to any decision you make but only YOU can make that call.

Don't be timid with your notification. Just tell your people your intentions straight up and let them do with it what they want. Let them know that your decision is not up for discussion. Depending upon what type of emergency situation your decision could mean life or death to you and your immediate family.

You're faced with a big decision - make that decision and move on. Indecision will cause long ranging problems for you and your friends and family.
 

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I have thought about this as well. I was always taught it is about the team, not the individual, so in a way I would want to help. However, can you really prep for all of your friends too? I prep for my family, and my supplies are to sustain us in case SHTF. To a point I think it would be hard to say no, however I look at my family and would rather feed my kids, than a friend who failed to prep. I do however have a few select friends and we have contingency plans, so I would have a few of them with me, or close to me, but turning someone away would be tough, and hard to answer...great question.
 

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Mentioned this in another post - I have so few friends - and the ones I have would all be able to contribute - they are military or law enforcement and one doctor, and these are people I have known a minimum of 20+ years.

Casual acquaintances? No chance they are coming into my house.
 

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Horse manure. You're going to jeopardize your family's food and security because someone you turn away MAY remember in a year or 5 or 10??
I agree. If your worry about you friends, then they need to start their prep's or start helping with yours. Remmeber the twiligth show the the bunker. The friends turn into animals. Your friends may not be friends when the SHTF!
 

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I think it's more of a level of friendship for me.
Friends I can call right "NOW" and they would drop whatever they are doing and come over and help me. Will be helped.
Friends that just say Hi. Will come over for a party etc. Mysteriously won't answer the phone when they know something is up. Only hear from when "they" need something. Well they are on there own.
People that won't take NO for a answer will be dealt with in a very harsh manor if need be. I don't care if they have a problem and want to try and seek revenge later. "Friends" that know me won't be that foolish. It's there own fault they aren't ready and I won't risk my families safety for some idiot.
 

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Long ago and far away I learned not to let anyone become a good friend and get close to me.
Today I have aquaintances, but only one neighbor would rise to the level of me sharing stuff with - and it just so happens he's an old Southeast Asia hand himself. Imagine that!:mrgreen:
 
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In a SHTF scenario, friends and family (other than my immediate family) would have to bring some resources or serious skills to the table. Otherwise, they would be sent on their way.
 
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My only friend I have, is someone downstate near DeToilet, I've known him 30 years , he has guns and ammo. His family is down there , so there he stays. They may all come up here but I doubt it.
 

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I would prob hand out a ziploc sandwish bag with rice and one with beans and give the sad puppy eyes and say sorry i can't do more. to family .... well my family are my kids and they come first.my ex and his family they can starve for all i care or if they got any useful skills i might make em work for food but thats a big maybe .
 

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It is amaizing to me how many people have no preperation of any kind, my dad for instance 80 years old, has no food of any kind in his house and depends on SS checks to eat out at the local resterant one or two times a day. My sisters family of four has cat, dog and horse food, but no groceries, likely enough for three days at any time.

I have tried to convey the message by explaining, people buy, health, life, car, home, dental, optical, insurance.

But they will not make a decision to keep a few hundred in food and water insurance on hand.

An education is the most expensive thing you will ever gain. You can lead a horse, well you know the saying.

The way that I intend to turn away family and friends in a real no bull shit SHTF situation, GTFO, followed by self explanitory, vulgar display of power.
 

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If it actually comes down to WROL (without rule of law) does anyone really believe that someone who has not even made the attempt to secure food and other stuff could be depended upon in a firefight?
It's not anything like the movies.
 
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Many of my Friends know I Prep and know my Home is in a great location when SHTF, and so many don't Prep at all let alone own a flashlight.

What will you say to the ones that come that you can't keep or help, this gives me a sick feeling in my gut when I think about it. I can talk all the Macho I want but its gonna be hard either way.
Define friends, I have about 15 people I call friends and that might be overestimating the number. There's 4 guys I've known since I was about 6 or 7 that I would do anything for, they can have the shirt off my back. There's maybe 5 or 6 guys at work who's hands I'd put my life in (and have). Anyone else that shows up is on their own. All of those people possess skills that would be particularly useful in a survival situation also so having them around is a no brainer.

-Infidel
 

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South East Asia taught me that no man is an island, . . . and if we are going to get through this, . . . it WILL BE a team effort. Rambo won all the wars on the silver screen, but his lard butt would not have lasted 30 seconds in the middle of a true fire fight.

I don't have much, . . . certainly not enough to feed my whole neighborhood for months on end, . . . but we will get through it together, . . . or not at all.

I respect everyone else's feelings, . . . but some day I will have to give account for my life on Terra Firma, . . . no matter how long or short the stay here, . . . and I'd kinda like that account to be favorable to me.

Running off the riff raff, thieves, etc. is one scenario, . . . turning away a starving friend is another. I'll do the first, . . . but hell will be frozen about 6 feet deep and the devil will be handing out ice cream cones in 27 flavors before I'll do the second one.

May God bless,
Dwight
 

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Here is my philosophy on the issue of friends showing up.

Back in the Sixties, for those of you who remember back then (I was just a boy), there used to be a bumper sticker that said "Ass, gas, or grass, no one rides for free" that usually was placed on the bumpers of multi-colored vans that were mobile party vehicles ("sin bins"). In other words, you could ride, but you better bring something to the party with you, or your a$$ is walking.

If my friends show up, and they are toting their gear, and they want to join forces, I will welcome them in. If they come begging, and have a good reason why, I might let them slide. If they come begging and they are looking for handouts, I am going to turn them away. There will be no place for freeloaders in my life then, just like there is no place for them in my life now.
 

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I started my career in law enforcement for two reasons, I wanted to protect America and I wanted to help people. I have saved entire families from death. The most memorable was a polish family robbed and left to die by smugglers in 115 degree heat in the west desert. They wouldn't have made it if I hadn't found them. It's the one feeling that keeps me going at a job that I increasingly hate. I won't endanger my family but I won't turn good people away without helping them. I keep increasing my preps and include small survival packs that I will give out if it's all I can do. I will help so that others may live.
 

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Many of my friends know i prep.....What will you say to the ones that come that you can't keep or help, this gives me a sick feeling in my gut when I think about it. I can talk all the Macho I want but its gonna be hard either way.
A friend who comes trying to leech off you is no friend..;)
Our cycling club once entered a 100-mile Endurance Ride in midwinter but to my disgust many of my clubmates kept coming up trying to beg food and drink off me because they hadn't bothered to fill a small rucksack like i had (dumb shits), so i told them "Sorry i can't help, i've only got enough for myself", and they were dropping out like flies all round the course, and only me and a few others pedalled on to complete the distance.
I'm partly to blame because before the start I was stupidly showing my ruck full of stuff around, no wonder they descended on me like vultures later on.
The moral?- maybe we shouldn't tell our friends and neighbours that we're preppers, because when it hits the fan they'll come hammering on our door to be sheltered and fed.

These stills from a Twilight Zone episode called 'The Shelter' explore the theme nicely-

1- A happy neighbourhood birthday party, what could possibly go wrong?
2- Radio announcer- "Incoming enemy missiles. get in your shelters!"
3- "Lemme in, I'm your mate"......."F*ck you Jack!"
4- "None of us have got a shelter, let's bust into his!"
5- Radio announcer-"False alarm"
6- "Get out of my house you motherf*ckers!"



 

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This is how I feel. Plus I need people. I'm hoping to find ranch hands, people that can hold their own and help me to protect ourselves, property and ideally crops. Having small packages to hand out can help determine how a recipient will respond. If they offer their help, labor or anything valuable in return then we might be able to build on that...particularly if I know them from before SHTF.

I started my career in law enforcement for two reasons, I wanted to protect America and I wanted to help people. I have saved entire families from death. The most memorable was a polish family robbed and left to die by smugglers in 115 degree heat in the west desert. They wouldn't have made it if I hadn't found them. It's the one feeling that keeps me going at a job that I increasingly hate. I won't endanger my family but I won't turn good people away without helping them. I keep increasing my preps and include small survival packs that I will give out if it's all I can do. I will help so that others may live.
 
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