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anybody out there have any experience with these guns.
looking to get one, read lots of mixed reviews. some say they love it others hate it.

youtubes I've watched make it seem like a good gun to have.
 

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Yes, I have.
You get more than your money's worth with them. If you ard on a budget and understand it isn't going to be a sniper rifle, yu will find it to be a reliable little carbine.

Down side is that is a pistol round and is not going to be as destructive as,a high-power rifle round.
 

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if you're looking for a small caliber carbine look into the fn 5.7 ar upper its around 600$ and its an awesome piece, a rifle round in a pistol size package. Plus you can do what I did and build your own with a complete lower, the 5.7 upper and a .223 upper easy change out and have a pdw and larger caliber hunting rifle.
 

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Is this what you are refering too?

Hi-Point Carbine, Semiautomatic, Centerfire Rifles, Shooting : Cabela's

Looks like a sweet gun. I was set on getting/building an AR, but the idea of a 9mm rifle has always intriged me. The simplicity of keeping all or as much of my ammo the same. I currently have a 9mm beretta Nano for conceal/carry and a Marlin 30/30 for anything out past 100yrds. This would be awesome and fits the budget better then an AR would right now. I was thinking of pulling the trigger (no pun intended) ::rambo:: on a salvage 320 tact shotgun this weekend but I may have to do this instead. Or maybe both :eek:. I still want an AR but I may put that on the back burner now. I'll do some research on this, thanks guys.
 

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So, my local gun shop has one of these and I got to put my hands on it. Really nice rifle. I am actually torn between buying one now or a pistol grip Mossberg 500 shotgun now. Both are at the same shop for the same money. I could buy both but that would be my budget for the yr and most of next yr too. My wife would be pissed. I still would like to add an AR platform to my collection as well as a full size 9mm pistol. I'm leaning towards a Storm Px4 and Beretta has a $50 mail in rebate promo through the end of the yr. So now I am torn about buying that too.
 

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Leon... any reason the .40 is better? I'm always concerned about the cost of burning through ammo... and 9mm is cheaper. But... I am always willing to balance performance against cost savings... So any info that could help us differentiate would be appreciated.
 

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Leon... any reason the .40 is better? I'm always concerned about the cost of burning through ammo... and 9mm is cheaper. But... I am always willing to balance performance against cost savings... So any info that could help us differentiate would be appreciated.
Performance, bro. The 9mm is like a handgun. The .40 can bring down big game. The 9mm DOES hit at range, great for varmints or scaring off teenagers but the .40 for what it costs is actually a CARBINE- meaning it can handle light combat use and kill men at a moderate distance reliably. Below .40 you are dealing with stoppage issues and a bad lack of firepower. The 9mm WILL kill you. For like 3 dollars more a box you have a round and a weapon capable of taking deer and big game. When they made this round, the FBI asked "why do we need a pistol capable of bringing down big game?" my answer is therein- it can easily stop a man, just the same features as a 9mm but with the ability to slam it through a Subaru door or bring down a caribou. Think "9mm magnum"
 

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Performance, bro. The 9mm is like a handgun. The .40 can bring down big game. The 9mm DOES hit at range, great for varmints or scaring off teenagers but the .40 for what it costs is actually a CARBINE- meaning it can handle light combat use and kill men at a moderate distance reliably. Below .40 you are dealing with stoppage issues and a bad lack of firepower. The 9mm WILL kill you. For like 3 dollars more a box you have a round and a weapon capable of taking deer and big game. When they made this round, the FBI asked "why do we need a pistol capable of bringing down big game?" my answer is therein- it can easily stop a man, just the same features as a 9mm but with the ability to slam it through a Subaru door or bring down a caribou. Think "9mm magnum"
DITTO on the .40! Its a butt kicker!

They had an instance of where two cops in Texas (I believe?) were trying to stop a guy in a car and the older cop had a .45 and the young cop had a .40....the .45's bounced off the car and the .40 killed the guy and went on through!
 

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I would go with the 9, because I have a 9 pistol. If I were to start over, I'd would think 40.

BTW, I have tested Speer Gold Dot on laminated glass and it does stay in one piece as it passes through, although it was only 124+P in 9
 

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Idk about there carbines but I would not use there pistols if u have it to me.
 

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Thanks Leon... But that also begs the question that AquaHull brings up... Do you stay interchangeable in regards to ammo? Or... is it better to buy a weapon for a specific purpose and buy ammo specifically for that purpose to ensure you don't run out. I can see pros and cons of each.
Pros of same calibers - interchangeable ammo... means you an carry less and still be effective. Cons - you will probably carry less and run out sooner, you may have to replace weapons you already own to make this work.
Pros of different calibers - you will plan for and carry what you think you need, can use a wider range of ammo you may come across later, can use the weapons you already own. Cons - the weight and space multiple calibers take up.

And... I'm sure there are plenty of others.
 

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I dont like cheap guns, and Hi-Point is the cheapest. Would rather have a mil-surp gun that is a hundred years old, but a proven,reliable design. Think Mosin Nagant,.303 enfield,8 mm mauser.
 

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I'd say... think about ammo availability and finding replacement parts... that's probably why the AR is so popular. Same for most 9's. If the Hi-Point is popular... you are more likely to find replacement parts in a SHTF situation. I'm not as confident about finding less popular calibers lying around for the taking, let alone replacement parts. It means you would have to pre-stock excessive amounts of ammo (even though I'm not sure any amount is considered excessive to a prepper) and find replacement parts for the common items that wear out.
 

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I had one in 9MM. bought it last spring and traded it off yhis fall due to feeding problems. Kept jamming. Would have to remove the clip, open the bolt and remove two rounds. Shot OK, but undependable.
 

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there is a good reason that Hi point guns are so cheap. I have fired 2 and they are junk. I was an armorer in the Marine Corps, and I am an NRA rifle and pistol instructor. One of the hi point pistols I shot, was a students, It kept failing to feed with multiple brands of ammo. I finally pulled it off the line and gave him my pistol to complete the course of fire with.
 
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