Right. But this seems pretty specific, dates, events, no leave, purchases, UN Troops training on our equipment, on our soil, learning to speak English etc.We have pretty much known this .
Don't get me wrong good post am I posting it is important.Right. But this seems pretty specific, dates, events, no leave, purchases, UN Troops training on our equipment, on our soil, learning to speak English etc.
...with every grant they accept.Don't get me wrong good post am I posting it is important.
They can not even hide what they are up to with DHS any more.
They are putting local COP and Sheriffs on their payroll
Guess I am the odd guy out, but IMO, if you join the other side, you have to give up something - DHS or loyal US citizen, can't have it both ways! When the SHTF, just whom do you think the DHS, LEO's and many in the military are going to protect, side with, government or the citizens? They are all part of the government and the only way they survive is if the government comes out on top! How many government programs put the citizen before the government?He is missing a big point, the DHS is made up of US citizens who too the same oath as every other Law Enforcement Officer and Military Soldier. If this is actually going on, they left me out of the plan and I'm a kind of a big deal in the DHS.
The Government is nothing without the people. The military and the Law enforcement will side with the American people. Most of us can do just fine without the government, we have education, work experience, and most of us were working in the private sector. Hate to rain on your paranoia parade but were not mindless robots.Guess I am the odd guy out, but IMO, if you join the other side, you have to give up something - DHS or loyal US citizen, can't have it both ways! When the SHTF, just whom do you think the DHS, LEO's and many in the military are going to protect, side with, government or the citizens? They are all part of the government and the only way they survive is if the government comes out on top! How many government programs put the citizen before the government?
I wouldn't call it paranoia as much as I would consider it concerning, due to the inflammatory nature of the video with specific facts/events/video footage laid out for all to see. As Meangreen has stated, he hasn't heard anything on it at at the DHS level, I haven't heard about it at my local level (not that I necessarily would) but I do have concerns about the helicopter operations being conducted over populated areas, as well as things such as purchasing rifles for foreign military. My primary question (and concern) would be; What are they training for?Boo, nothing new here. If you are afraid go hide. Arming is one thing getting citizens to act against citizens is another.
So that only leaves an invited invasion against our own people. Do you actually think our own military will stand for that?
But, in big cod.. defense, living in the liberal Mecca of the left coast your paranoia is understandable.
I will agree to a point, the problem being how long and how far does the country have to fall (if you believe the country is falling) before those that are the strong arm of the government see that things are not quite what they thought or wanted. There are so many now that depend on the government for their very existence that the government is, IMO, over empowered because they know they have so many under their thumb that will fight their fellow citizens for their right to free stuff. As far as you personally, have you thought that maybe the government knows what you do and "say" on the internet and that you are no longer totally in the loop, as they say, just a thought? And no, you are not raining on my parade, we are expressing opinions/thoughts as seen by both sides. A lot of what you post on this forum is probably not what DHS would put out for public viewing, but I could be wrong.The Government is nothing without the people. The military and the Law enforcement will side with the American people. Most of us can do just fine without the government, we have education, work experience, and most of us were working in the private sector. Hate to rain on your paranoia parade but were not mindless robots.
My opinions are the same as 90% of DHS. There are a few liberals but for the most part the DHS is made up of patriots who served in the military and carried their career into federal law enforcement. The politicians say what they think should happen and the people, media respond. It doesn't make changes to the way we do business. Neapolititano didn't enact anything that affected our day to day operations other than massive budget cuts. An illegal order will fall on deaf ears as well as an illegal law. The worst thing that happens to us is a Democratic president because all the funding goes elsewhere like social programs. Obama appoints his liberal idiots and they try and make change and it grid locks.I will agree to a point, the problem being how long and how far does the country have to fall (if you believe the country is falling) before those that are the strong arm of the government see that things are not quite what they thought or wanted. There are so many now that depend on the government for their very existence that the government is, IMO, over empowered because they know they have so many under their thumb that will fight their fellow citizens for their right to free stuff. As far as you personally, have you thought that maybe the government knows what you do and "say" on the internet and that you are no longer totally in the loop, as they say, just a thought? And no, you are not raining on my parade, we are expressing opinions/thoughts as seen by both sides. A lot of what you post on this forum is probably not what DHS would put out for public viewing, but I could be wrong.
Excellent points Meangreen...My opinions are the same as 90% of DHS. There are a few liberals but for the most part the DHS is made up of patriots who served in the military and carried their career into federal law enforcement. The politicians say what they think should happen and the people, media respond. It doesn't make changes to the way we do business. Neapolititano didn't enact anything that affected our day to day operations other than massive budget cuts. An illegal order will fall on deaf ears as well as an illegal law. The worst thing that happens to us is a Democratic president because all the funding goes elsewhere like social programs. Obama appoints his liberal idiots and they try and make change and it grid locks.
I guess we will have to agree to dis agree on most government programs and how they are run and IMO, even how constitutional they are. The Patriot Act and DHS being two major concerns for me and then you can throw in the UN which is another waste of tax payer money.My opinions are the same as 90% of DHS. There are a few liberals but for the most part the DHS is made up of patriots who served in the military and carried their career into federal law enforcement. The politicians say what they think should happen and the people, media respond. It doesn't make changes to the way we do business. Neapolititano didn't enact anything that affected our day to day operations other than massive budget cuts. An illegal order will fall on deaf ears as well as an illegal law. The worst thing that happens to us is a Democratic president because all the funding goes elsewhere like social programs. Obama appoints his liberal idiots and they try and make change and it grid locks.