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Had my radio on while I left work today and heard this commercial-


I was blown away there was a group like this in CA and even more blown away they were playing a commerical on the radio (which isn't cheap in this market).

Looked them up online and was even more amazed their HQ is in Santa Barbara which is a VERY Liberal city just outside of L.A.

Glad someone is finally fighting back!

From their Mission Statement:

So, "where are all the people coming from?" asks one CAPS TV commercial. It's a good question because based on U.S. Census figures, people aren't moving to California from other parts of the country. For years, more Americans have been leaving California than moving here. So, where were all the people coming from? Most Californians already know the answer. The state's growth is a product of mass immigration. More than 98% of California's population growth over the last fifteen years can be attributed to mass immigration and births to immigrants.

That's why CAPS advocates slowing mass immigration to more sustainable levels and a deliberate approach to family size.
 

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I do not have much of a opinion on the subject, because im not a californian or an american.

But getting a child to make the case is really not something that sits well with me. Might be cutural, but if a organization puts forth children to take the debate, well... are there no adults that can speak up? :/
 

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FYI, it takes a family in the United States with 2.8 children average or better to sustain our culture, if not , we will no longer be the United States.
We are at 2.8 now....
^^^^ This. Its simple math and how countries lose their cultures and fail.
 

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I do not have much of a opinion on the subject, because im not a californian or an american.

But getting a child to make the case is really not something that sits well with me. Might be cutural, but if a organization puts forth children to take the debate, well... are there no adults that can speak up? :/
Any time the Liberals want to get sympathy for a cause (because they function in feelings rather than logic like the rest of us) the trot out the children. "This new law is important if it only saves on child" or "This new tax is need if only it feeds one child". We on the other side are tired of playing by the rules so we are starting to use dirty tactics like the Left (Liberals). Not sure if you have the same saying in Sweden but it goes All's Fair In Love and War.
 

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Any time the Liberals want to get sympathy for a cause (because they function in feelings rather than logic like the rest of us) the trot out the children. "This new law is important if it only saves on child" or "This new tax is need if only it feeds one child". We on the other side are tired of playing by the rules so we are starting to use dirty tactics like the Left (Liberals). Not sure if you have the same saying in Sweden but it goes All's Fair In Love and War.
we have the exact same expression.

But do the method work in this case, that is whats important. Sometimes kids are works in propaganda, sometimes they dont. I would say that they dont do it when it is obvious they are repeating lines on some one else part, like in this case. It works better when they are held up as victims or under threats. But that is just my opinion in this minor detail. Political shifts are of interest and if this is a part of that shift, it will be of interest how it plays out.
 

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we have the exact same expression.

But do the method work in this case, that is whats important. Sometimes kids are works in propaganda, sometimes they dont. I would say that they dont do it when it is obvious they are repeating lines on some one else part, like in this case. It works better when they are held up as victims or under threats. But that is just my opinion in this minor detail. Political shifts are of interest and if this is a part of that shift, it will be of interest how it plays out.
Like I said, Liberals are swayed by emotion. So using kids to sway conservative doesn't really work. We like hearing facts and outcome. But what this group is doing is trying to appeal to Liberal. Since facts alone don't work on them the tactic is facts wrapped in emotions.

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Like I said, Liberals are swayed by emotion. So using kids to sway conservative doesn't really work. We like hearing facts and outcome. But what this group is doing is trying to appeal to Liberal. Since facts alone don't work on them the tactic is facts wrapped in emotions.

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facts alone dont work on anybody. feelings are way more important. This is how almost every important in our lifes are decided, first there is a desier, a want, a fear, or some other emotion. then there is facts that support that feeling, rationalising it. but we act on feelings, not facts.
 

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facts alone dont work on anybody. feelings are way more important. This is how almost every important in our lifes are decided, first there is a desier, a want, a fear, or some other emotion. then there is facts that support that feeling, rationalising it. but we act on feelings, not facts.
I must respectfully disagree. There have been many times in my life (almost daily) when I make decisions on facts rather than emotion. You are correct in the fact that my emotions come first, but in the end the facts are what make my decision.
 

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facts alone dont work on anybody. feelings are way more important. This is how almost every important in our lifes are decided, first there is a desier, a want, a fear, or some other emotion. then there is facts that support that feeling, rationalising it. but we act on feelings, not facts.
I hold a seat on a planning commission and we review new residential and commercial developments as well as zoning and annexations, the meetings are very emotionally charged but we have to approve or disapprove based solely on fact.
 

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I do not have much of a opinion on the subject, because im not a californian or an american.

But getting a child to make the case is really not something that sits well with me. Might be cutural, but if a organization puts forth children to take the debate, well... are there no adults that can speak up? :/
I would think using a child as a spokesperson repersents the future, as to say "what you do now (or don't do) is what we (the children) will have to live with in their future", when done correctly, strengthen the message.
 

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I would think using a child as a spokesperson repersents the future, as to say "what you do now (or don't do) is what we (the children) will have to live with in their future", when done correctly, strengthen the message.
yes, I do agree that might have been the thougt behind it. My opinion is that it did not really work. oh well, this is a minor issue :)
 

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I would think using a child as a spokesperson repersents the future, as to say "what you do now (or don't do) is what we (the children) will have to live with in their future", when done correctly, strengthen the message.
I think you hit the nail on the head. Part of their message/slogan is "limit immigration so there is something left for our children".

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facts alone dont work on anybody. feelings are way more important. This is how almost every important in our lifes are decided, first there is a desier, a want, a fear, or some other emotion. then there is facts that support that feeling, rationalising it. but we act on feelings, not facts.
Rational people do not *act* on feelings.
Acting on feelings is what leads to most criminal activity.
Emotion is often the first thing that spurs a thought, but it MUST evolve past emotion, and become a rational thought based on fact before a reasonable decision can be made.
Fear, anger, lust, worry, joy... these things can impair our judgement, and lead us to do things that violate the rights of others. Maybe on purpose, and maybe not.
Emotion should not rule your decision making.
 

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Rational people do not *act* on feelings.
Acting on feelings is what leads to most criminal activity.
Emotion is often the first thing that spurs a thought, but it MUST evolve past emotion, and become a rational thought based on fact before a reasonable decision can be made.
Fear, anger, lust, worry, joy... these things can impair our judgement, and lead us to do things that violate the rights of others. Maybe on purpose, and maybe not.
Emotion should not rule your decision making.
did you say that when you asked your wife to marry you? ;)

and in my opinion, all major decisison are sprung from an emotion. you disagree, that is ok, we might both be wrong, or both right, :)
 

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did you say that when you asked your wife to marry you? ;)

and in my opinion, all major decisison are sprung from an emotion. you disagree, that is ok, we might both be wrong, or both right, :)
Hey Swede .... another Swedish visitor dropped by here a few days ago, said he had never heard of you before ...

As to major decisions, mine are never made with emotion only, inclusive of marriage decisions. I have left some very attractive opportunities behind, because they did not pass the pro/con test.
 

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Hey Swede .... another Swedish visitor dropped by here a few days ago, said he had never heard of you before ...

As to major decisions, mine are never made with emotion only, inclusive of marriage decisions. I have left some very attractive opportunities behind, because they did not pass the pro/con test.
of course he has, all swedes now who I am, rigth? ;) (what are you talking about?)

no seldom only emotion, but emotion comes first. without emotion there is no reaction.
 
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