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Interesting...
I tend to agree with you. Any and/or all the circumstances you listed, regardless of the source, are at a greater potential for this country than ever before. With the domestic and global forces at work, the threat is very different than even 10 yrs. ago, much less 60!!
I spent 3 years stationed in South Korea, about 25 miles from the DMZ. I've seen ROK college kids attack US Soldiers with Molotovs and Homemade Spears because some Commie college teacher influenced them to rise up and help unite the two Koreas under the utopian vision of Communism.

That shit ended when they had to do their 2 years in the ROK Army and got a good view what that Communist utopian really meant for them and their families. America is facing a similar situation here and now... Want to change those minds, draft them and send them to one of their Communist utopians or, to a Non-Socialist Country while the Socialist are cooking up a revolution.

My personal conspiracy theory is that our economic problems are engineered from our Demo-Communists to bring us down from within.
 

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Allot of people like to dismiss Alex Jones, but he's been right far too many times for that. I think everything he says is backed by some degree of research and apparently I'm as paranoid and delusional as he is because most of it makes perfect sense to me! Of course, I would suggest a complete mistrust and disdain for government authority is essential as well.
 

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Interesting...

I spent 3 years stationed in South Korea, about 25 miles from the DMZ. I've seen ROK college kids attack US Soldiers with Molotovs and Homemade Spears because some Commie college teacher influenced them to rise up and help unite the two Koreas under the utopian vision of Communism.

That shit ended when they had to do their 2 years in the ROK Army and got a good view what that Communist utopian really meant for them and their families. America is facing a similar situation here and now... Want to change those minds, draft them and send them to one of their Communist utopians or, to a Non-Socialist Country while the Socialist are cooking up a revolution.

My personal conspiracy theory is that our economic problems are engineered from our Demo-Communists to bring us down from within.
I agree, but I think the planned collapse of the dollar and the food shortage that is about to engulf the world is a globalist effort to depopulate the planet. I don't think most people understand the chain reaction that the energy shortage and currency rebellion has already triggered!
 

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Here is the thing... Land and heirloom seeds. I have both. All I need to a pull camper, a diesel engine and I'm good. Off Grid with biofuel... lol
 

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Interesting...

I spent 3 years stationed in South Korea, about 25 miles from the DMZ. I've seen ROK college kids attack US Soldiers with Molotovs and Homemade Spears because some Commie college teacher influenced them to rise up and help unite the two Koreas under the utopian vision of Communism.

That shit ended when they had to do their 2 years in the ROK Army and got a good view what that Communist utopian really meant for them and their families. America is facing a similar situation here and now... Want to change those minds, draft them and send them to one of their Communist utopians or, to a Non-Socialist Country while the Socialist are cooking up a revolution.

My personal conspiracy theory is that our economic problems are engineered from our Demo-Communists to bring us down from within.
Just when were you in the rok?

When Park was killed things got strained some but I can remember only one instance of a fire bomb and it wasn't much of a one
 

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Let's keep it civil. ;)
 

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Just when were you in the rok?

When Park was killed things got strained some but I can remember only one instance of a fire bomb and it wasn't much of a one
I was in the ROK from 2002 to 2005, I was there in 1/503d when the college kids threw Molotov's at us when we were IRF for Camp Red Cloud. I was there when a North Korean sleeper blew himself up on the subway in Seoul in a suicide attempt. That was a dry chemical bomb and the person trying to kill themselves didn't die. Like some 200 people were reportedly killed in the panic from it...

Some of the protests I understood, like when those 2 little girls got ran over a tank, some of it was political and if a KATUSA hadn't explained the propaganda to me, I wouldn't have known.

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He was just asking when I was there and stated he only remembered one fire bombing. There were plenty of situations that people never heard of over there including guys we served with. Not an issue... ;)
 

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He was just asking when I was there and stated he only remembered one fire bombing. There were plenty of situations that people never heard of over there including guys we served with. Not an issue... ;)
All good.
Sometimes things devolve quickly on that path. The reminder was just in case. (y)
 

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I was in the ROK from 2002 to 2005, I was there in 1/503d when the college kids threw Molotov's at us when we were IRF for Camp Red Cloud. I was there when a North Korean sleeper blew himself up on the subway in Seoul in a suicide attempt. That was a dry chemical bomb and the person trying to kill themselves didn't die. Like some 200 people were reportedly killed in the panic from it...

Some of the protests I understood, like when those 2 little girls got ran over a tank, some of it was political and if a KATUSA hadn't explained the propaganda to me, I wouldn't have known.



He was just asking when I was there and stated he only remembered one fire bombing. There were plenty of situations that people never heard of over there including guys we served with. Not an issue... ;)
I left country in 88. Been back in the states since
 

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From Urban Survival Site: I found this site and been cruising the site. Funny thing is some of these things are happening now. I'm not sure about the Martial Law part but still...

Thoughts?

1. Kidnappings Increase
Countries that experience an economic collapse typically see a spike in kidnappings as well. Kidnapping a person of wealth and demanding a ransom is one way for desperate people to acquire money when no other means of acquiring money are available.
It isn’t only the wealthy that are at risk, though, as desperate kidnappers will take anyone they can in the hopes that someone will pay the ransom.
2. Pets Go Missing
Even if you can afford to continue feeding your pets during an economic collapse, there’s still no guarantee that they will be safe. Few people have the skills or resources to hunt wild animals when food is scarce. Domesticated animals, however, make for much easier targets.
If people eating dogs and cats in order to survive sounds far-fetched, there are plenty of examples that prove otherwise. For example, just look at Venezuela where people are hunting dogs, cats, and pigeons.
3. Water Quality Drops
Private citizens are not the only ones affected by an economic collapse. State and local governments feel the strain of economic downturn as much as anyone, if not more. When the funds simply aren’t available, even some of the local government’s most important duties such as ensuring access to clean drinking water are often neglected.
And even if they do clean the water, they won’t necessarily do a good job. For example, in The Modern Survival Manual, author Fernando Aguirre talks about how after the economic collapse in Argentina, his local water company cut corners by simply dumping lots of chlorine into the water. So much that they issued a warning that the water should not be consumed by children under 3.
4. People Riot In The Streets
When people are desperate and angry, they often start rioting, and these riots can quickly become dangerous as people take advantage of the chaos to get away with all sorts of crimes from robbery to vandalism to murder.
If caught up in a riot, it’s essential to make your way to a less crowded area or indoors as soon as possible. Here are some tips on how to survive a riot.
5. Carjackings Become More Common
In desperate times, robbing a person’s car is typically safer than robbing a person’s home since the individual being robbed is much less likely to be armed inside their vehicle than they are inside their home.
One common tactic used by carjackers is to throw rocks, bricks, or Molotov cocktails at the windshield of a moving car in order to get the driver to pull over.
If you’re in a dangerous area when this happens, your best course is to just keep driving. Stopping for this tactic, or any other tactic that carjackers use (such as standing in the middle of the road to try to make you stop) could prove incredibly dangerous.
6. Hospitals Become Overcrowded
Due to factors such as no garbage pickups, unclean drinking water, the spread of disease, inability to afford medications, and a spike in violent crimes, people tend to visit hospitals much more frequently during an economic collapse.
This leads to hospitals becoming overcrowded and unable to take care of everyone who walks through the door. Oftentimes, people die while waiting for treatment that would have saved their lives.
7. Gasoline is Rationed
In the wake of an economic collapse, going to the gas station to fill up may not be a possibility. Gasoline will likely be rationed, if it’s even available in your area. Of course, without gasoline, escaping a dangerous location or situation becomes much more difficult.
If you depend on gasoline to run a generator after the power goes out, not having gasoline could be an even bigger problem.
8. Banks Close
One of the first things people do when the economy collapses is rush to the bank in order to withdraw all their funds. One thing many people don’t realize, though, is that banks don’t keep enough cash on hand to pay out anywhere close to the amount of money they owe.
When there’s a run on the banks, banks simply close their doors, leaving people unable to access the money that is rightfully theirs. An event like this could lead to panic and a sudden uptick in crime.
9. Terrorist Attacks Become More Frequent
Should the U.S. economy collapse, the country’s enemies will be left smelling blood in the water, especially if hyperinflation or lack of funds force us to withdraw from countries like Afghanistan all at once. Emboldened by the country’s economic ruin, terrorists are likely to ramp up their attacks.
In addition to increased terror attacks, there is also the possibility that America’s more powerful enemies such as North Korea and Russia may see the country’s economic collapse as a chance to strike us while we’re weak.
10. Gang Activity Increases
Left with few other options, more and more people turn to criminal activity during an economic collapse. In addition to desperation, another factor fueling gang activity during times of economic downturn is the fact that gangs know the city will have fewer resources available to combat their activities.
Of course, with increased gang activity comes increased danger in the streets as rival gangs fight for control of territory in a time when making money is more important than ever.
11. Interstate Trucking Halts
Factors such as an oil embargo or a massive increase in robberies could grind interstate trucking to a halt in the event of an economic collapse. Unable to rely on trucks for transportation, stores would quickly run out of food and other essential supplies, leaving people who do not have supplies of their own stored up with few options for survival.
Here’s what would happen if the trucks stopped.
12. Martial Law is Enacted
In an attempt to curb some of the violence and chaos that ensues after an economic collapse, the government will likely enact martial law and turn over the governance of the people to the police and military. In some ways, this could make life safer in extremely desperate times.
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I left country in 88. Been back in the states since
Yeah I was 8 years old then...

We collectively have an almost,30 Year Gap in our in country time
Yeah, they had a political shift somewhere along the way. And in the last 15 or so years, so has the US. Its almost scary cause I thought I had more time to prepare.
 

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Yeah I was 8 years old then...


Yeah, they had a political shift somewhere along the way. And in the last 15 or so years, so has the US. Its almost scary cause I thought I had more time to prepare.
Crap! I am getting a bit long in the tooth.

We're never going to have all the time we need when the hammer falls. When Park was killed in the early 80's it caught everyone by surprise, even the folks up North.

Got so bad in the City that rival commanders troops were trading shots across a US residential compound
 

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Crap! I am getting a bit long in the tooth.

We're never going to have all the time we need when the hammer falls.
I was thinking more or less that I basically lost everything at this point and am rebuilding from almost scratch... not good.
 

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8. Banks Close
One of the first things people do when the economy collapses is rush to the bank in order to withdraw all their funds. One thing many people don’t realize, though, is that banks don’t keep enough cash on hand to pay out anywhere close to the amount of money they owe.
When there’s a run on the banks, banks simply close their doors, leaving people unable to access the money that is rightfully theirs. An event like this could lead to panic and a sudden uptick in crime
How much cash is smart to keep on hand?
 

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How much cash is smart to keep on hand?
My person thoughts are to buy exchange foreign currencies and have actual gold and silver stashed away... I plan to get $1,000 in pesos, if the dollar shrinks like it did under Obama and the exchange goes from almost 20 to 1 to 8 to 1, I flip pesos to dollars and double my money (minus fees and such) but, in a total collapse situation I am thinking an economic flip of 1 to 1 or worse 2 to 1 and my 20,000 persos made me a new life.

You can also look at Euros and other foreign currencies. Yuan can be xechange for large amounts of Ginseng. ;)
 
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How much cash is smart to keep on hand?
Eventually, all of it.

At the moment, keep around $1K on hand.(hat tip to Dave Ramsey) This can help to get through unforeseen hardships. (new tire(s), debit card stolen, power outage knocking out digital money options, medical emergency, etc...)
Convert other wealth into things you know you'll use later, or that you know will have value later. Don't do this for all your money, but it's good to diversify.
If we start to see more inflation and higher instability, and ESPECIALLY if we see a push for "Central Bank Digital Currency", that will be a time to start pulling money out of the system.
I might flip my finances at some point, keeping only ~1K in the bank, and the rest dispersed in various places. My paycheck is directly deposited, so that should keep some sitting in my account for certain uses.
 

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How much cash is smart to keep on hand?
We keep a few thousand on hand, that should hold you until things calm down in a light crisis. If an end of the world happens, cash will soon be toilet paper. It will have no value and you can't eat it! Try to spend it all immediately. Since systems will be down, tell them you don't need change and take all the provisions they will let you have! We also keep silver bars and silver eagles on hand. Gold is nice, but you won't want to spend that much on every transaction. Silver will become currency until it becomes evident to people that you can't eat that either! Bars are good but silvers eagles are government minted so more recognizable to the unlearned. Silver and even gold may get you through a check point or pay the "toll" on the road to bug out location. Prepping is an endless maze of rabbit holes, most of which deserve some degree of exploration.
 
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Gold is nice, but you won't want to spend that much on every transaction. Silver will become currency until it becomes evident to people that you can't eat that either! Bars are good but silvers eagles are government minted so more recognizable to the unlearned. Silver and even gold may get you through a check point or pay the "toll" on the road to bug out location. Prepping is an endless maze of rabbit holes, most of which deserve some degree of exploration.
I was thinking more of exchange gold for cash but, you can also buy copper coins and bars and the best part of these is you can take them to the scrap yard... lol
 

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I've often wondered about lead, copper, and brass for trade, even in scrap form. Seems to me at some point, folks would have to make their own bullets and would be looking for materials....
 
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