[MrsInor]

I make dog biscuits and store them. Yesterday I had to drop off our Newfoundland mix for his summer "shave" and stopped by the vet to ask about my recipe. She made a copy of it and later called to ask permission to share it. The only thing missing was fat, which I already knew. I figured that in a shtf scenario the dogs would share in some of our food (leftovers) and get some of the fat requirement.

Dissolve 1 package (2 1/4 tsp) yeast in 1/4 warm water

Mix together:
1 can (or equivalent) chicken broth
3 1/2 cups all purpose flour
2 cups whole wheat flour
1 cup rye flour
1/2 cup corn meal
1/2 cup oatmeal
1 cup TVP
1/2 cup dry milk
1 cup grain (wheat germ, barley, extra oatmeal, etc)
dissolved yeast
enough water to make dough pliable.

For biscuits: Form into balls about half the size of golf balls and flatten onto cookie sheets.
Bake at 300 for thirty minutes, rotate trays half way through.
Store in canning jars with oxygen absorber.

For using as dog food:
Form into golf ball size rounds and flatten onto cookie sheets.
Bake at 300 for thirty minutes rotating trays half way through. Put baked rounds onto food dehydrator racks and dehydrate at 155 until hard.
Store in mylar bags. Two biscuits twice a day (plus fat) meets the nutritional needs of our 120 pound Newfoundland mix (9 years old) and our 1 year old Labradinger (very active). One batch fills all ten trays in my Excalibur dehydrator and will feed them for 22 days.

Since it is supposed to rain again today and tomorrow and I can't put the seedlings out, I will be making dog biscuits and dog food.

 

[punch]

Great post,

I gave my dogs the store bought rawhide treats and they would not barely touch them. They just sit there and look at me as if I had two heads
Now if I find a recipe for dog testicle flavored treats I'd be set for life. Not to say I know what those taste like mind you. But they sure do love them...


punch

 

[Ripon]

One batch 22 Days wow. That is great. I keep 8-40lb bags in reserve for our great Danes. Each bag is 15 days normal and I figure 20 days if rationing with added biscuits. By a 150/60 days they'll be eating as I do. I think they truly hope for SHTF to happen because they seem to have a sincere interest in my kibble.

 

[PaulS]

Aside from the powdered milk and broth all the protein is vegatable protein. Does this mixture provide for complete nutrition for a dog?
I would want to supplement it with some meat protein to make sure it was a balanced blend for my animals.

 

[HuntingHawk]

I'm not a dog nutritionist but have been trained by two that are as I've been involved in dog rescue for over 20 years.

Even "low sodium" canned chicken broth has too much salt for a dog. Dogs get nothing from corn as they can't process it. Grains are actuallu harmful to dogs, especially large breed dogs, as it dries out their joints giving them hip problems later in life.

So what I'm saying is, you aren't doing any dog any good by feeding that mix.

HH

 

[MrsInor]

I generally use homemade chicken broth so sodium isn't an issue.
TVP gives them enough protein even if it is vegetable based according to what I have researched.
The grain issue is something that divides vets all over the country and again after doing research, I find that the grains are not harmful.
That said - I offered the recipe - you don't have to use it.

 

[Moonshinedave]

what is TVP?

 

[HuntingHawk]

A vet is not a nutritionist.

 

[HuntingHawk]

TVP = textured vegetable protein.

 

[HuntingHawk]

So of the better choices to use to put food or treats together are eggs with the shells mashed up & included, raw pumpkin ( not the canned sweetened stuff), sweet potato. canned slamon, & canned mackeral. Any combination of these things will make a healthy treat.

 

[srpumpkin]

So of the better choices to use to put food or treats together are eggs with the shells mashed up & included, raw pumpkin ( not the canned sweetened stuff), sweet potato. slamon, & canned mackeral. Any combination of these things will make a healthy treat.

Damn this sounds great. If u don't mind I've written it down n I'm stocking up on this so I can stretch my "Blue" since its great food but Soo expensive.
I used to give my dobbie his hard food mixed with a concoction that a trainer told me about.
Cook in lrg pot water half way up, bag of carrots n celery, a beef marrow bone with knuckles cut off. Cook for bout one hr. then push out marrow add rice n oil from one lrg tuna can cook till all liquid gone. Mix in the tuna . Give dog 2 tablspoons mixed with hard food. N you'll have a nice bone for him as treat.
But I'm gunna make up yours as well. I don't give grains anymore, it may or may not b true but have had several pits n a sheppard n lost them in their adult yrs to dnr years to cancer. Heard grains bad n may cause cancer in dogs due to being hard to impossible to digest.
Thanks much for this post, appreciate it.

 

[Montana Rancher]

Thanks Misinor!

It's a nice change to have some input for the pets, I have a big German shepherd and also stock a lot of food for her.

I lean towards the not too much wheat or corn for dogs but I feel the recipie could be improved by switching some of the grains for rice, which I believe is a more widely accepted ration.

I'm a big fan of lard, maybe that could be added to round it out?

 

[HuntingHawk]

I make a mix I call fishy cookies. In a mixer such as a kitchenaid, add several eggs with shells, sweet potato or raw pumpkin (large can), jar of cheap peanut butter (my rotties prefer crunchy), can of salmon, & can of mackeral. Start mixing & slowly add quick oats till it doesn't readily absorb the liquid. Teaspoon onto a cooking sheet & 325 for 25 minutes. Easier if you put some olive oil on the pan first. Will make 8dz+. Make sure to include the liquid from the fish cans as that includes fish oil.

 

[srpumpkin]

Hunter hawk-- how's the smell when n after cooking?
Do u think I could vac seal them n put in 2-3gal. buckets? Great recipe...

 

[HuntingHawk]

NO, they need to be frozen after baking them.

No fish smell at all when baking as the oats & pumpkin or sweet potato absorb any fish smell.

 

[srpumpkin]

NO, they need to be frozen after baking them.

No fish smell at all when baking as the oats & pumpkin or sweet potato absorb any fish smell.

Thnks much making a batch this wknd, ill let u kno how my girl likes it.

 

[paraquack]

Can you replace the textured vegetable protein with TTP (textured terrorist protein) or maybe TPP (textured politician protein)?

 

[Inor]

Can you replace the textured vegetable protein with TTP (textured terrorist protein) or maybe TPP (textured politician protein)?

I suppose... If you do not like the dog.